[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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AND I CALL THE JUNE 4TH, 2024 MEETING OF THE EANES ISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO ORDER.
MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? YES WE DO.
[3. CLOSED SESSION]
THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.071, 551.074. WE WILL RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION AT APPROXIMATELY 7 P.M..THANK YOU FOR COMING AND SEE YOU IN A BIT.
YEAH. THE TIME IS NOW 7:06 AND WE WILL NOW RECONVENE IN OPEN
[4. RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION (Approximately 7:00 PM)]
SESSION. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE COME OUT TONIGHT, AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING ON THE VIDEO, THANK YOU FOR A FINE TEAM OF LEADERS WHO ARE JOINING US IN THE ROOM TONIGHT.THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S BOARD MEETING IS TO DELIBERATE AND VOTE ON MATTERS ON ITS AGENDA.
THE DISTRICT IS COMMITTED TO TREATING EVERYONE HERE WITH RESPECT, AND WE EXPECT THE SAME IN RETURN.
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM OUTBURSTS OR ANY FORM OF DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR.
WE WILL. THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY ON THE AGENDA FOR OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT DURING OPEN FORUM, BUT WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT, SO WE WILL NOT WE WILL FOREGO THAT PART OF OUR AGENDA.
[5. SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT]
AND WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THE SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT.THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
EVEN THOUGH IT IS QUIET AS EVERYONE HAS BEGUN THE SUMMER VACATION.
BUT AS WE LIKE TO SAY IN EANES, EDUCATION TAKES NO VACATION.
THE BEST COMMUNITIES FOR MUSIC EDUCATION DESIGNATION IS AWARDED TO DISTRICTS THAT DEMONSTRATE OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT FOR PROVIDING MUSIC ACCESS AND EDUCATION TO ALL STUDENTS. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF OUR STAFF WHO ARE A PART OF THIS DESIGNATION AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
SO ALL OF THOSE COMPRISE THE GREAT MUSIC CULTURE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I ALSO WANTED TO RECOGNIZE DESTINATION IMAGINATION.
THEY HAVE PARTICIPATED AGAIN IN THE GLOBAL FINALS.
TALENTED STUDENTS FROM FOREST TRAIL ELEMENTARY, WESTRIDGE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL PLACED AMONG TOP TEAMS IN THE WORLD DURING GLOBAL FINALS FOR DESTINATION IMAGINATION IN KANSAS CITY MAY 23RD THROUGH THE 26TH.
SO WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, AND SUMMER IS A TIME FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND CONTINUED LEARNING FOR OUR STAFF, LAST WEEK, 24 TEACHERS AND INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES PARTICIPATED IN TWO DAYS OF SCIENCE AND MATH STEM SCOPES TRAINING.
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT WILL CONTINUE IN JULY.
AGAIN, OUR TEACHERS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ON VACATION, THEY'RE STILL LEARNING AND WE HAVE CPR, FIRST AID TRAINING AND A NUMBER OF OTHER DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM FOR CONTINUED LEARNING THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER, AND ALSO WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOME OF OUR LEADERS WHO ARE IN THE ROOM TONIGHT, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS A RESULT OF THE 2023 BOND.
THAT, AGAIN, IS ENABLED BY THE BOND.
WE'RE SEEING A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AT ALL OF THE CAMPUSES.
SO I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THEM FOR THAT.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE HAVE BEGUN OUR SUMMER HOURS.
SO THESE ARE OUR LONGER HOURS FOR THOSE FOUR DAYS.
AND THEN WE GIVE THEM THAT THREE DAY WEEKEND TO ENJOY THE SUMMER THROUGH THE END OF JULY.
AND THEN WE'LL RETURN TO NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS ON JULY THE 22ND.
SHOULD WE EXPECT THAT THE CAMPUSES WILL GENERALLY NOT BE WILL GENERALLY BE CLOSED ON FRIDAY, OR WILL THEY JUST HAVE LIMITED HOURS ON FRIDAY? UM ON FRIDAY AT LEAST, SO THEY HAVE MODIFIED HOURS DURING THE WEEK.
SO THE BEST THING TO DO IS JUST CALL BEFORE YOU GO TO A CAMPUS, CERTAINLY BEFORE YOU STOP BY.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN HELP ANSWER?
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WELL, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO A REPORT ON LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.
[7.1 Legislative Priorities]
AND LET ME START BY GIVING YOU A REAL QUICK REPORT ON THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE.HEATHER, LAURA AND I MET WITH DOCTOR ARNETT A FEW WEEKS AGO.
AND TALKED ABOUT OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.
AND I THINK THAT ONE OF THE OBSERVATIONS THAT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM LEGISLATORS IN THE LAST CYCLE WAS WE HAD A LOT OF PRIORITIES. WE HAD A IT WAS A VERY DEEP DOCUMENT WITH A LOT OF WORDS WHICH WERE GOOD.
THEY WERE ALL PRIORITIES, OF COURSE.
THERE WERE TWO SORT OF PIECES THAT CAME FROM THIS, REALLY.
HELPING STUDENTS AND FUNDING EDUCATORS AND FUND EDUCATORS, SPECIFICALLY, THE LEGISLATURE HISTORICALLY HAS CALLED EDUCATORS, TEACHERS, COUNSELORS, LIBRARIANS, AND NURSES, AND HAS EXCLUDED FROM THEIR DIRECT MONEY CUSTODIANS, BUS DRIVERS, MAINTENANCE WORKERS.
AND. WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IN OUR PERSPECTIVE, EVERYONE WHO WORKS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS AN EDUCATOR IN THE SENSE THAT EDUCATION WOULDN'T HAPPEN IF THESE IMPORTANT FUNCTIONS DIDN'T HAPPEN.
AND SO OUR MESSAGE OF FUND EDUCATORS IS TO FUND EVERYONE, TO FUND SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
AND. WHEN YOU FUND EDUCATORS, YOU HELP STUDENTS THAT THAT IS THE DIRECT CONNECTION.
AND SO OUR MAIN MESSAGE IS TO HELP STUDENTS FUND EDUCATORS.
WE CAN WORK THAT TAGLINE IF WE WANT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY, VERY, VERY EARLY LOOK AT OUR PRIORITIES.
THE SESSION STARTS IN JANUARY.
WE WERE HOPING JUST TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THIS.
SO TWO THINGS FROM THIS, ONE IS THE HOW WHAT DOES FUNDING EDUCATORS LOOK LIKE.
AND I THINK YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO IT BEGINS WITH THE STUDENTS OR THOSE THINGS THAT WE THINK DIRECTLY BENEFIT STUDENTS.
BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS A HOW TO DO IT, AND THEN WHAT YOU GET FROM DOING THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF SECURITY IS A LEGISLATOR'S PRIORITY.
HOW TO GET SECURITY IS FUNDING SCHOOL DISTRICTS, PROVIDING YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY MORE THAN THEY'VE PROVIDED IN THEIR INITIAL ALLOTMENT FOR EACH SCHOOL TO HAVE AN OFFICER, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO ANYWAY, I'M GOING TO PAUSE THERE.
LAURA OR HEATHER, DO YOU WANT TO JUMP IN AND AND GIVE SOME MORE PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AS A LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE? I DO NOT HAVE HIGH HOPES FOR THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN TERMS OF FUNDING AT ALL, AND I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING THAT SAYS FULLY FUND, BECAUSE THAT IS SO VAGUE. AND ALSO, I'M REALISTIC WHERE WE ARE IN THE STATE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO I ALSO WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR LEGISLATORS ON HOW WE CAN DO PLUG INS TO BILLS AND WITH AMENDMENTS AND OTHER USES.
RATHER THAN OR IF WE HAVE A SPECIFIC ISSUE, MAYBE WE PRESENT A BILL TO A LEGISLATOR.
YOU KNOW, YOUR THOUGHTS, ELLEN, ON YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS AROUND TEACHER HOUSING, I THINK WOULD BE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAYBE PRESENT A BILL TO A LEGISLATOR RATHER THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, HOPING AND CROSSING OUR FINGERS THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS.
SO LIKE IF WE'RE SPENDING X AMOUNT OF MONEY ON SAFETY AND SECURITY AT A CAMPUS, WE NEED TO SAY WE NEED X AMOUNT OF MONEY TO COVER THE SAFETY AND SECURITY ON OUR CAMPUSES SO THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD LAURA REAL QUICK? AND THEN I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO ELLEN.
YOU GAVE US A [INAUDIBLE] AND LET YOU TALK TO THAT? YEAH. HEATHER, YOU, WHEN WE MET, YOU EXPRESSED A REALLY GREAT PLAN.
DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? DO YOU WANT TO TALK TO THAT?
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BECAUSE IT REALLY RESONATED WITH ME, AND I THINK THAT WE ALL WERE SORT OF IN AGREEMENT ON THAT AND FELT THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS STRONG.I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO PRESENT THAT.
YEAH. I WOULD INSTEAD OF LIKING TO COME WITH A FULLY BAKED LIST OF PRIORITIES, I WOULD LIKE TO INVOLVE OUR LEGISLATORS, OUR LOCALLY ELECTED LEGISLATORS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND THAT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE AND HELP US FORM OUR PRIORITIES ALSO, AND AND REALLY WORK WITH THEM IN A VERY COLLABORATIVE SENSE RATHER THAN HERE'S OUR PAPER.
AND I THINK THAT THERE'S NO WAY ANY LEGISLATOR CAN ARGUE WITH BEING STUDENT CENTERED.
DO YOU WANT TO FINISH HER? SURE. YEAH.
AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS THAT IS THAT IS IT.
AND THEN HAVING THIS LIST OF THESE MORE DETAILED LIKE HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT, THAT WE TAKE TO OUR LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND PARTNER WITH THEM AND WORK WITH THEM IN ORDER TO HOPEFULLY GET SOME TRACTION ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
I, YOU KNOW, THE YOUR IDEA OF THE INCLUDING STAFF AND WORKFORCE HOUSING LANGUAGE, I MEAN SORRY, INCLUDING EDUCATORS AND WORKFORCE HOUSING LANGUAGE IS THAT TYPE OF THING. IT'S THESE LITTLE THINGS THAT MAYBE WE CAN MAKE SOME INROADS ON, BUT THAT OUR MAIN BIG OVERARCHING MESSAGE THAT WE WILL TAKE TO THE CAPITOL IS AND AGAIN, WE CAN WORDSMITH.
IT IS HELP STUDENTS FUND EDUCATORS.
ELLEN AND THEN KIM, AND THEN DIANE.
OKAY. I DON'T NORMALLY GIVE OUT A PIECE OF PAPER, BUT I CONFUSED MYSELF, QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN I STARTED TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW I MIGHT FRAME THIS.
AND, AND ONE THANKS TO THE COMMITTEE FOR GETTING GETTING THE DRAFT.
I MEAN, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
AND SO I APOLOGIZE IF, IF THIS SOUNDS SEMANTICS OR WORDSMITHING, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS SEE IF THERE WAS A WAY TO FRAME THINGS MORE SIMPLY.
AND BECAUSE TO ME, 17 IS STILL A WHOLE BUNCH.
AND AND SO I WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT WE'RE REALLY ASKING FOR? I LOVED HOW YOU HAD SO MANY THINGS THAT WERE I THINK AND I'M NOT POSITIVE ON THIS, BUT I THINK MOST OF THEM ARE PART OF THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, THINGS LIKE THE, THE FORMULA FOR SPECIAL ED AS WELL AS THE INFLATION INDEX.
I MEAN, ALL OF THOSE ARE BASICALLY SUBSETS OF THE BASIC ALLOWANCE.
AND SO WHAT I TRIED TO DO ON THIS SEPARATE PIECE OF PAPER WAS TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT WOULD THE BIG THREE BE? BECAUSE IN STRATEGIC PLANNING OR WHATEVER, RARELY DO PEOPLE WALK AWAY FROM A MEETING WITH MORE THAN THREE POINTS.
SO WITH STUDENTS, THE SECURITY CLEARLY WAS ONE.
AND I THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THE CYBERSECURITY AND ONLINE AS PART OF THAT BUNDLE BECAUSE IT'S ALL PART AND PARCEL.
MENTAL HEALTH IS ANOTHER BIG PIECE.
THE INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS, I GUESS, IS A BIG PIECE.
I MEAN I, IT WAS ON HERE AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO NOT HAVE THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAD RAISED.
I'VE NOT HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION.
I MEAN, I JUST DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT WHAT OUR SPECIFIC PLANS ARE.
GOING DOWN TO THE FUND EDUCATORS.
I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF SITTING DOWN AND STRATEGIZING IS IF YOU COULD GO IN AND SAY, THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE WAYS THAT WOULD AFFECT US, AND WE PROBABLY COULD ACTUALLY PUT SOME SORT OF NUMBERS TO SOME OF THESE IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT WITH OUR LEGISLATORS. THE GOLDEN PENNIES ARE GOLDEN, SO TO SPEAK.
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YEAH. I DID WANT TO ASK PHILOSOPHICALLY ABOUT THAT ONE, BECAUSE THAT DOES PUT MORE PRESSURE BACK ON OUR TAXPAYERS AS OPPOSED TO A AN ASK FOR THE STATE PICKING UP A LARGER SHARE, WHICH AGAIN, GOES BACK TO THE BASIC ALLOTMENT.BUT THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THE STATE CONTRIBUTION AS OPPOSED TO PERMISSION TO TAX OUR TAXPAYERS MORE.
SO IT'S TO OUR BENEFIT AND IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT.
BUT IT'S ALSO TAKING RESPONSIBILITY OFF THE STATE, WHICH I HESITATE TO DO.
SO YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE THAT MAY HAVE THINGS LIKE WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IN TERMS OF THAT BEING STATE STATUTE LANGUAGE.
SO IT AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT, HOW THE NUANCE OF THAT WORKS.
BUT WALTER, I'M SURE, COULD CLARIFY IT FOR US.
AND THEN CERTAINLY IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A COUPLE OF WAYS OF INCENTIVIZING AS SUGGESTIONS, YOU KNOW, AS POLICY SUGGESTIONS, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO ADD HERE. AGAIN, FOR THE BRAINSTORMING THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT GO IN WITH OPTIONS THAT LOOK GOOD TO US AND WHY THEY LOOK GOOD, BUT HOW DOES THIS FIT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON LEGISLATIVELY? SO ANYWAY, I DECIDED TO PUT IT ON A SEPARATE PIECE OF PAPER BECAUSE THAT HELPED ME THINK THROUGH IT.
I LIKE THAT, AND I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO GET DOWN TO SOMETHING VERY CONCISE.
I THINK THAT EVEN MAYBE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT SIT BEHIND THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, MAYBE THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE TAKE TO OUR LEGISLATORS MORE DIRECTLY, AS HERE ARE THE TRIGGERS, HERE ARE THE LEVERS YOU CAN PULL.
BUT THE MAIN MESSAGE IS THE FUNDING PIECE.
I MEAN, IF I WOULD, IF I WOULD JUST INCREASE IT BY $1,000 PER STUDENT.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH WITH LITTLE DIALS THAT CAN BE TURNED.
AND IF YOU TURN ENOUGH OF THE DIALS, THEN IT ADDS UP TO REAL MONEY, RIGHT? THE OTHER, THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY IS I WONDERED IF SOME OF THESE I WASN'T SURE HOW THEY WERE STATE ISSUES VERSUS LOCAL ISSUES AND WHETHER OR NOT WE COULDN'T DO SOMETHING WITH LOCAL POLICY.
THE ONE I MEAN, I THOUGHT IT WAS INTRIGUING.
THE MORE FUNDING, THE FUNDING, I GUESS FROM THEM.
BUT DAYS TO VISIT COLLEGES AND EXPLORE CAREERS, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IN LOCAL POLICY A DIFFERENT WAY? YOU'RE. BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, TO ME, THAT GETS DOWN PRETTY MUCH TO SMALL BALL VERSUS A BIG ASK LIKE INCREASE THE BASE BASIC ALLOTMENT, AND I THINK WE SHOULD WE AREN'T GOING TO GET MUCH.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY JUDICIOUS IN WHAT WE ASK FOR.
BUT I'M VERY MINDFUL THAT, IF WE PUT TEN THINGS ON THE LIST AND THEY GAVE US SIX OF THOSE, BUT THEY WERE THINGS LIKE THAT AND DIDN'T INCREASE THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, THEY WOULD SAY, WE GAVE YOU 60, YOU KNOW, WE GAVE YOU MOST EVERYTHING WE WANTED.
YEAH. AND I'M AFRAID OF DE-EMPHASIZING.
RIGHT. WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, I THINK, TO TO HEATHER'S EARLIER POINT IN HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVES IS TO ASK THEM WHAT OF THIS LIST DO THEY THINK WILL GAIN THE MOST TRACTION? AND THAT'S WHY WE STARTED BROAD.
BUT WE REALIZED THAT IT DOES NEED TO BE NARROWED DOWN.
I'M GOING TO GO TO KIM, IF YOU'RE OKAY, I'LL GO TO KIM, THEN DIANE, AND THEN HEATHER.
I WAS GOING TO PASS AND LET BECAUSE THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING ON.
I KNOW DIANE'S NEXT, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR HEATHER'S ANSWERS.
ONCE WE GET THESE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE ARE FINALIZED OR CLOSE TO FINALIZATION, WHAT WE DO AND THE TACTICS ON HOW THIS COMMITTEE AND HOW THIS HOW THE TRUSTEES AND HOW THE COMMUNITY CAN HELP.
WHAT YOU JUST SAID I'M GOING TO PASS TO HEATHER BECAUSE MY MY POINTS WERE ALONG YOUR LINES AS WELL.
HEATHER, YOU'VE BEEN PASSED TOO.
OKAY, SO I DON'T DISAGREE THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW WHAT WE REALLY NEED?
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BIG PICTURE, BASIC ALLOTMENT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.I JUST DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING.
AND SO TO YOUR POINT, KIM, MY THOUGHT IS THAT WE GET IN A ROOM WITH OUR LEGISLATORS AND WE SAY, HERE'S THE THINGS THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT WE NEED HELP WITH AND EACH LEGISLATOR HAS DIFFERENT INITIATIVES OR THOUGHTS ON HOW THEY WANT TO GO ABOUT SOMETHING.
AND SO THEY MAY IDENTIFY SOMETHING ON THIS LIST AND BE LIKE, THIS IS MY THING FOR THE NEXT SESSION.
AND SO WE CAN HELP THEM PLUG IN THINGS THAT WILL HELP OUR DISTRICT IN THEIR BILL AND WORK WITH THEM, AND THEN ALSO HELP THEM, YOU KNOW, WITH AN AMENDMENT, IF HOUSE BILL ONE, FOR INSTANCE, FROM LAST SESSION GETS FILED AGAIN, HOPE IT DOESN'T, BUT IT PROBABLY WILL.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, WE NEED THE BASIC ALLOTMENT.
THAT WOULD BE LOVELY. AND THEN WE DON'T GET ANYTHING.
AND IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, LIKE THINGS LIKE FUNDING COLLEGE VISITS, YES, THAT IS A LOCAL DECISION THAT WE COULD OR, I'M SORRY, ALLOWING MORE, MORE DAYS FOR COLLEGE VISITS. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A, AS A DISTRICT COULD VERY WELL SAY, LIKE, WE'LL GIVE YOU MORE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE FUNDING FOR THE STATE FROM OR FROM THE FUND FROM THE STATE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET EXTRA FUNDING FOR THOSE DAYS OF MISSING INSTRUCTION FOR THE STUDENTS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST ONE MORE WAY TO PICK UP.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S NOT A HUGE PILE OF MONEY, BUT IT ADDS UP.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND WE COULD USE EVERY DOLLAR WE CAN GET AT THIS POINT, IN MY OPINION.
AND SO AGAIN, IT MAY NOT NEED TO BE A BIG, ROBUST, LONG LIST OF THINGS.
IT'S JUST LET'S LET THEM BE AWARE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US.
IN TERMS OF THE WORKFORCE, YES.
THE CURRICULUM AND USE THE CURRICULUM THAT WE DEEM AS HIGH QUALITY.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, MOLLY AND HER TEAM HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB ON MAKING SURE THAT WE DO HAVE A ROBUST CURRICULUM AND THAT WE ARE USING UNIVERSAL DESIGN FOR LEARNING. AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE.
AND SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I PERSONALLY WANT TO THROW AWAY.
AND TO THAT POINT, I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO SAY THAT VERY SPECIFICALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DID NOT GET OUT OF THIS, THAT WE WANTED TO KEEP USING OUR PROCESS AND OUR THE THINGS THAT WE VETTED.
SO I THINK THAT THAT IS COVERED.
UNFORTUNATELY, IN A IN A STATE WHERE THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO EVEN ENTERTAIN THE WORDS FULLY FUND.
SO I DON'T GET CLOSER TO THE SUN THAN THE REST OF US DO WITH RESPECT TO BEING DOWN AT THE CAPITOL.
I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT.
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YOU KNOW, I SIT THERE AND TELL MY CHILDREN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING UNLESS YOU ASK FOR IT.WE DON'T NEED TO GIVE THEM MONEY.
WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ASK FOR MONEY.
BUT I STRONGLY THINK THAT I FEEL LIKE THERE'S THIS SIMPLE, VERY SHORT, BRIEF PUBLISHED LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, AND THEN I THINK IT'S THE SMALL BALL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WE GO TO OUR LEGISLATORS WITH AND SAY, HERE ARE SOME GOOD LEVERS THAT WOULD HELP US IF YOU CAN GET THESE IN AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BOIL THE OCEAN.
IT'S GET THIS THING IN, GET THIS ONE LINE IN.
YEAH. NO I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T ASK FOR THE MOON.
SO. IF WE IF WE THINK ABOUT THE BIG DOC, THE PIECE OF PAPER WE HAND WHEN WE WALK INTO AN OFFICE, THAT DOCUMENT IS A CLEAN, SHORT LIST OF.
WELL, AND THEY SHOULD ALREADY KNOW.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'RE GETTING HELP FROM OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
BUT THEN THERE'S THIS SORT OF DEEPER LIST OF THESE REALLY GOOD LEVERS, BULLETS THAT WE CAN HELP OUR LEGISLATORS WITH.
DIANE, ARE WE COMING BACK TO YOU YET OR.
SO AGAIN, I'M NOT YET AT A POINT WHERE I CAN SAY, HERE'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS DRAFT AND HERE'S WHAT I DON'T LIKE, BUT WHAT I THINK IS AS, AS IMPORTANT OR MORE IMPORTANT THAN HAVING A PIECE OF PAPER THAT HAS THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE COME MAY.
I THINK WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, GET BACK TO HOW WE MAKE THIS POLICY MOVEMENT, AND I THINK WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT, AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAID, WE MEET WITH OUR LEGISLATORS, WE ASK THEM FOR TIMELINES.
YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERYONE ELSE, WHEN THE WHEN THAT LEGISLATOR GETS WITH LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL AND THEY DRAFT THOSE BILLS AND WHAT THEY NEED FROM US AND, AND WHEN AND THAT DIRECTS US TO OUR TOP PRIORITIES VERSUS OUR LONGER PRIORITIES, AND THEN AGAIN, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID THIS.
YOU KNOW, WE ASK THE LEGISLATORS HOW WE ADVOCATE.
JAMES, YOU JUST MENTIONED LIKE HOW WE ADVOCATE, IS IT JUST TRUSTEES? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THAT MOVES THE THE BALL IN SOME WAYS, BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE AT THE STATE CAPITOL THAT DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM TRUSTEES, BUT THEY MAY BE A LOT MORE MOTIVATED BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME, HOW WE ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY, WHAT WILL HAVE THE MOST IMPACT IN ENCOURAGING OUR COMMUNITY TO COME, AND COMING UP WITH NOT ONLY THIS LIST, BUT ALSO A PLAN OF HOW TO, HOW SOMEONE THAT IS OUT THERE WATCHING THIS CAN ENGAGE ALONG WITH US, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IN A DISCUSSION WITH OUR LOCAL LEGISLATORS OR WHAT ARGUMENTS THEY SEE AGAINST WHAT WE'D LIKE, AND THAT GIVES US SOME PERSPECTIVE ON BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE AND THEY KNOW, AND THEN WE CAN LEARN HOW TO COUNTER THOSE ARGUMENTS AS WE'RE ADVOCATING.
BECAUSE AGAIN, I, I LOVE A LIST, BUT I THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE SO MUCH ACTION BEHIND THIS LIST TO MOVE IT. DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? AND THEN I'LL GO TO DIANE.
YEAH. I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE CAN BRING OUR COMMUNITY TO THE CAPITOL, AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
BUT I THINK WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT IS THAT WE BAND TOGETHER WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES, TO JAMES'S POINT, BECAUSE OUR LEGISLATORS HERE ARE FRIENDLY TO PUBLIC EDUCATION AND TO THE THINGS THAT WE NEED.
AND SO A FEW OTHER FELLOW TRUSTEES AND OTHER DISTRICTS AND I CREATED A GROUP CALLED TRUSTEES UNITED.
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MORE PEOPLE TO THE CAPITOL THAT DON'T USUALLY COME.AND PARENTS, YOU KNOW, EMPTY NESTERS, YOU NAME IT.
WE NEED EVERYBODY TO COME AND TALK ABOUT WHY OUR SCHOOLS NEED FUNDING AND HELP.
OKAY. AND DO YOU THINK HEATHER CAN DO YOU THINK, HEATHER, THAT OUR PRO PUB ED LEGISLATORS THAT ARE THERE AT THE CAPITOL NOW CAN HELP US IN IDENTIFYING THOSE FRIENDLIES, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW IDENTIFYING PEOPLE ON THE MARGINS.
YES. SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I AND I WORKED CAPITOL HORSE AND BUGGY DAYS, IT WAS IT'S SO DIFFERENT NOWADAYS AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS NOW.
BUT IN MY TIME AS A YOUNG ADULT WORKING THERE, IT WAS VERY COORDINATED.
THE ONLY WAY TO GET ANYTHING DONE WAS TO HAVE THIS COORDINATION.
AND IT WASN'T JUST AN IDEA, BUT IT WAS SO MUCH BEHIND IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT FORCES AGAINST US, AND WHAT I'D LIKE IS FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE PRO PUB ED, WE WORK UNIFIED, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT.
YEP. AND WE ALREADY HAVE A LIST OF THE PROPOSED AND ANTI ED LEGISLATORS.
BUT WE STILL HAVE AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, AND SO THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGE THERE.
AND REAL QUICK BEFORE YOU GO BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN WILLING TO WAIT, I DID WANT TO TAKE A STEP BACK.
AND IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT MAYBE OUR COMMUNITY OR PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS MAY LACK A LITTLE CONTEXT ON WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS AS TRUSTEES AND AT PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT.
ONE OF OUR BIGGEST DUTIES IS TO ADVOCATE FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND SPECIFICALLY TO ADVOCATE FOR THOSE THINGS THAT ARE BEST FOR EANES ISD, FOR OUR STUDENTS.
AND AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT LINES UP WITH WHAT'S BEST FOR A STUDENT IN EL PASO AND BEAUMONT AND LUBBOCK AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN TEAM UP WITH TRUSTEES WHO SHARE THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE AND AND APPROACH LEGISLATORS AND SPECIFICALLY, I MEAN, ANY ANY TIME YOU'RE WORKING ON PUSHING AN AGENDA MOVING FORWARD AN AGENDA FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION IN THIS CASE, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PRO PUB ED AND ANTI PUB ED, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ALIGNING WITH LEGISLATORS WHO ARE WILLING TO LISTEN.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S YOU ONLY HAVE SO MUCH ENERGY TO SPEND.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU PUT THAT ENERGY IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
WE'RE NOT MAKING JUDGMENTS ON LEGISLATORS.
AND AND SO THAT'S THE CONTEXT FOR THE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING HERE.
WE SOMETIMES MAYBE FORGET ABOUT THAT LEGISLATORS ARE WORKING ON A WHOLE BUNCH OF LEGISLATION, AND EVEN THOSE LEGISLATORS WHO ARE PRO PUBLIC EDUCATION ARE ALSO MAYBE WORKING ON ROADS AND, AND SAFETY AND ALL KINDS OF BIG ISSUES THAT ARE ALSO IMPORTANT IN THE STATE AND US BRINGING A LIST OF PRIORITIES.
SO BEING ABLE TO BRING FORWARD THESE THINGS HELPS THEM A LOT.
SO NONETHELESS, THIS THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
THANK YOU. I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS AND THEN A FEW QUESTIONS.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THIS FIRST DRAFT.
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AND IT NEEDS TO BE HONED IN.I LOVE WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT THE COLLABORATIVE AND THE PRAGMATIC APPROACH HERE.
IT'S TO ME, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE BOARD THAT LONG, BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE A NEW TYPE OF CONVERSATION, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT FEELS VERY SMART GOING THROUGH THIS AND USING OUR TIME WISELY.
FANTASTIC. CHIPPING AWAY WHERE WE CAN, BUT ALSO STILL ASKING FOR THE MOON, OF COURSE.
AND FOR ME, IT ALWAYS COMES, JUST THE OBVIOUS ARGUMENT IS COST OF LIVING INCREASES.
COME ON. HOW CAN YOU EVEN ARGUE AGAINST MEETING THAT? A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, THEN.
HEATHER, I'M SURE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME ANSWERS TO THIS AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND MEETING WITH OUR LEGISLATORS, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE LOOK LIKE FOR THAT? WHEN WILL THOSE MEETINGS HAPPEN TO DEVELOP OUR PRIORITIES? WHEN ARE WE HOPING TO HAVE THIS DOCUMENT FINALIZED? AND THEN SO I'LL LIST A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
FIRST. WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH OTHER DISTRICTS COLLABORATIVELY.
VERY SMART. I LOVE THAT, YOU KNOW, GRASSROOTS EFFORT BANDING TOGETHER AND COORDINATING WITH THEM.
WELL, ARE THERE A LOT OF OTHER DISTRICTS THAT WE'RE TALKING WITH ALREADY? YOU MENTIONED TRUSTEES UNITED.
HOW DO WE GET ENGAGED WITH THAT? IF YOU CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND, I'D LOVE TO JUMP IN RIGHT AWAY AND DO WHATEVER I CAN TO HELP.
SO I THINK THAT'S IT FOR MY COMMENTS.
I'M JUST GOING TO JUMP IN REAL QUICK AND SAY, PLUG LEADERSHIP TASB HERE.
BUT THOSE OF US WHO'VE BEEN TO LEADERSHIP TASB ARE TIED IN LIKE WE HAVE FRIENDS FROM GIANT DISTRICTS AND TINY DISTRICTS AND DISTRICTS IN THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH AND THE EAST AND JUST ALL OVER AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF OF LEADERSHIP TASB AND WHEN WE GO TO SLI NEXT WEEK, WE WILL RUN INTO A LOT OF THERE'S EVEN LIKE A REUNION HAPPY HOUR THING THAT MAYBE SOME OF US WILL GO TO.
AND THEN ALSO A PLUG FOR REGION 13, CTSBA.
I FORGOT ONE MORE QUESTION, LET ME TACK ON HERE.
THIS IDEA OF WORKING WITH LEGISLATORS TO DEVELOP THEM ARE A LOT OF OTHER DISTRICTS DOING THAT? IS IT IT'S OKAY.
THIS IS A QUESTION EITHER FOR YOU, DOCTOR ARNETT, OR IT MAY BE FOR CHRIS.
BUT FINANCIALLY WE'VE BEEN QUITE SURPRISED AND TO OUR DETRIMENT WITH THE SHAH'S SITUATION.
IS THERE ANYTHING LEGISLATIVELY? I MEAN, IS THAT A FEDERAL RULE THAT WAS REINTERPRETED, OR IS THERE ANYTHING FROM A STATE LEGISLATIVE STANDPOINT THAT COULD CORRECT OR REVERSE ANY PART OF THAT PAYMENT SITUATION BECAUSE WE I MEAN, THAT WAS A VERY GOOD INCOME STREAM THAT WAS DEVELOPED AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I UNDERSTAND THE NUANCES OF WHAT'S NOW ALLOWED AND WHAT'S NOT. AND IS THERE ANY WAY TO GO BACK AGAINST SOME OF THAT FROM A STATUTORY STANDPOINT? WELL, IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE US IF THAT BECOMES A FOCAL POINT DURING THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION, BECAUSE EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY THAT IN SOME WAY.
IN THE MEANTIME, THAT'S WHY WE'VE JOINED THE PRELIMINARY SUIT WITH SOME OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT MIGHT BE CORRECTED EVEN BEFORE WE GET TO THE LEGISLATURE. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT.
ANSWER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A POTENTIAL LEGISLATIVE SOLUTION.
BUT YES, IT IS SMALL BALL, BUT SMALL IN THE TUNE OF ABOUT MORE THAN $600,000 A YEAR.
I WOULDN'T CALL THAT SMALL BALL.
THAT THAT WOULD HELP US IN SMALL BALL IS PROBABLY THE WRONG WORD FOR IT.
BUT BUT IT MEANS MORE TACTICALLY THAN STRATEGICALLY.
THIS IS DEFINITELY A TACTIC WE SHOULD INCLUDE.
COULD I ADD SOMETHING TO WHILE CHRIS IS SPEAKING AND WE ADDED THIS SLIDE TODAY.
THIS IS NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME YET, BUT CHRIS SCOTT AND CLAUDIA MCWHORTER HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A COMPANION DOCUMENT TO OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES THAT TALKS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE SHORTFALLS IN STATE FUNDING AS WELL AS RECAPTURE.
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WE'LL PROBABLY SHARE A DRAFT OF THIS WITH YOU VERY SOON.THIS MAY ANSWER WHAT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST, BUT I WOULD LOVE, ONCE WE GET THE PRIORITIES SORTED OUT, THAT WHEN WE PUT THEM ON OUR WEBSITE, IF WE CAN HAVE A COMPANION DOCUMENT THAT GIVES A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS ABOUT EACH ONE THAT GIVES, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF SENTENCES OF BACKGROUND, SOME STATISTICS, AND WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE FOR US SO THAT THAT IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, RANDOM, NOT RANDOM WORDS, BUT NOT JUST A LIST, BUT THERE IS SOME DEPTH THERE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN FEEL EQUIPPED TO GO AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WHERE THEY AREN'T JUST PARROTING BACK TALKING POINTS, BUT THERE'S ENOUGH CONTEXT THERE IN A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS FOR THEM TO, TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE.
YEAH. YEAH. I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE DISCOUNT TO DISTRICTS THAT MAKE EARLY RECAPTURE PAYMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINANCIAL TRADE OFF IS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IF THE MARKETS ARE DOING WELL, WE MAKE A LOT ON THE INVESTMENT OF THAT MONEY BEFORE WE PAY IT. SO IF IF WE PAY IT EARLY IS THE STATE, DO WE THINK THE STATE IS GOING TO GIVE US ENOUGH OF A BONUS THAT IT'S WORTH IT? I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO OF WHAT THE TRADE OFF WAS.
GO TO THE EXPERT. THE WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THIS AT DURING THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I BELIEVE 3% WAS THE NUMBER THAT WAS KIND OF BANDIED ABOUT THE MOST. AND SO WE ESSENTIALLY WE KEEP THAT MONEY THAT WE COLLECT FOR RECAPTURE, WE COLLECT IT MOSTLY IN JANUARY.
WE PAY IT BACK IN AUGUST, SO WE GET IT FOR ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS.
AND SO THE EQUIVALENT WE'D HAVE TO EARN ON THAT IN ORDER FOR IT NOT TO BE WORTHWHILE TO DO AT 3% WOULD BE MORE THAN 6%. AND WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
WE'RE, AND I DON'T THINK WE'LL GET THERE.
TO MY MIND, THE VALUE OF THAT IS RIGHT NOW, I'M KIND OF LIVING IN HOPE AND DREAD THAT THE OVERNIGHT RATE STARTS COMING DOWN BECAUSE IT HELPS US IN SOME AREAS.
IT HURTS US, IN OTHERS. IT'LL HURT US ON OUR INVESTMENT REVENUE, AND SO IF THAT WAS IN PLACE, THEN THAT REALLY CUSHIONS US A LOT BECAUSE OUR RECAPTURE PAYMENT, AS YOU KNOW, IS HOVERS RIGHT AROUND THAT 100, $100 MILLION A YEAR MARK.
AND SO 3% OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, $3 MILLION.
AND SO THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS INSULATING US AGAINST FLUCTUATIONS IN THE OVERNIGHT RATE.
THANK YOU. OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS STAY THE SAME.
I MEAN, THE VARIABILITY OF THAT YEAR ON YEAR, SOME YEARS IT MIGHT HELP, SOME YEARS IT MIGHT HURT.
SO I WANTED MORE INFORMATION, THANKS.
SO HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES WAS THE COMMITTEE THAT DECIDED THAT THERE WOULD BE NEW RULES AND THAT THE DISTRICTS WEREN'T FOLLOWING THEIR PROCEDURES TO GET THE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR SHARS.
AND SO THERE COULD BE A DISCUSSION WITH HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, BUT I WOULDN'T HOLD MY BREATH.
BUT YEAH, THAT'S TO ACCESS THE FEDERAL MONEY.
SO AND THEN TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, DIANE, TO MY THOUGHTS ON TIMELINE WOULD BE ASAP THIS SUMMER SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT INTO KIM'S POINT, BECAUSE THERE ARE DEADLINES THAT WE WANT TO START HITTING.
AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO CONNECT ANYONE TO TRUSTEES UNITED.
AND I THINK IT'LL BE EVEN MORE ROBUST AS WE GET GOING INTO SESSION.
TWO THINGS. DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP A MINUTE AGO? DID YOU? OKAY.
TWO THINGS. I DO WANT TO START TO PUT A BOW ON THIS.
AND IF WE'RE READY AND TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS, ONE THING THAT THAT I, THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN OUR IN OUR MEETING AS WELL, LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE WAS IT SORT OF GOES TO COST OF LIVING, BUT IT'S MORE SPECIFIC TO THE IDEA THAT IT COSTS MORE TO LIVE AND WORK IN AUSTIN THAN IT DOES TO, I THINK, TO LIVE AND WORK IN MAYBE SAN ANGELO OR PALESTINE OR WHERE? PAMPA.
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AND THE IDEA THAT MAYBE ANOTHER SMALL BALL ITEM WOULD BE A REGIONAL COST OF LIVING ALLOTMENT.AGAIN, IT GOES TO I THINK WE HAVE TO ADVOCATE FOR EANES ISD.
ABSOLUTELY. AND IN EANES ISD, THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR US.
THAT MAY THAT MAY NOT BE ONE WHERE PALESTINE OR MULESHOE ARE GOING TO PARTNER WITH US, BUT PERHAPS FRISCO AND KATY AND WHOEVER PICK IT, PICK A DISTRICT..
YEAH. THERE USED TO BE A COST OF EDUCATION INDEX, WHICH REGIONALIZED IT, BUT ACTUALLY THEY NEVER DID IT IN ON A REGIONAL BASIS. BUT FOR YEARS WE LOBBIED TO HAVE THAT WHICH LOOKED COMPREHENSIVELY AT THE COST OF LIVING.
SO IT'S IT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION THAT A TRUCK IS A TRUCK IF YOU BUY IT FROM FORD.
BUT HOUSING IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT BETWEEN COMMUNITIES.
AND SO THEREFORE IT ANSWERED OUR NEEDS BUT ALSO WAS RESPONSIVE TO THE NEEDS OF RURAL DISTRICTS.
SO YOU KNOW SOMETHING BRINGING BACK SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD YEAH, AND I WAS TOUCHED DOCTOR ARNETT AND I WERE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND TALKING TO A CUSTODIAN AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WHO, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY PERSONAL SECRETS, BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, THE LIVING SITUATION, THE COMMUTE TIME AND SUCH.
AND AND IT WAS JUST HEARTBREAKING TO ME THAT SOMEONE WHO LOVES WORKING IN EANES ISD AND COMES TO WORK EVERY DAY AND WORKS HARD, IS LIVING IN A SITUATION AND COMMUTING.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT JUST SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE THAT.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN IN $1 MILLION HOUSE IN WESTLAKE EITHER.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT EITHER, BUT THERE IS A POINT IN BETWEEN.
SO LET ME START TO PUT A BOW ON THIS.
I AND AGAIN, I'M NOT CUTTING OFF CONVERSATION.
IT'S THE STRATEGY, IT'S THE BIG ASKS A AND HAVE THAT CAPTURE WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
HAVE A TALKING POINTS DOCUMENT, BUT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIKE THAT WHAT ELLEN WAS SAYING WAS PARAGRAPHS TO EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE ARE AND THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT IF A CITIZEN OF OUR DISTRICT DECIDED TO PICK THAT UP AND WALK TO THE WELL, DRIVE TO THE CAPITOL AND WALK IN THE CAPITOL AND AND VISIT A LEGISLATOR, THEY WOULD HAVE THAT IN THEIR HANDS, READY TO GO, SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE THEM AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I AGREE WITH THAT. PART TWO IS A LIST OF MORE DETAILED THINGS THAT WE CAN DISCUSS WITH LEGISLATORS AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH LEGISLATORS ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED FROM US AND WHAT WE NEED FROM THEM.
AND DO THAT AND THEN MAYBE THE THIRD PART OF THIS IS NETWORKING WITH OTHER DISTRICTS AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, AND I THINK THAT, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WHEN TASB HAS TRUSTEE DAYS AT THE CAPITOL, TTSBA HAS TRUSTEE DAYS AT THE CAPITOL.
WE CAN HAVE OUR OWN TRUSTEE DAYS AT THE CAPITOL.
WE USUALLY DO THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONCE WE CAN DO THIS MULTIPLE TIMES.
HEY, HEATHER, I'VE GOT A FREE DAY.
I CAN COME TO THE CAPITOL, TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO DO KIND OF THING, AND SO I THINK THAT SORT OF, TO ME, IS STARTING TO GEL AROUND OUR LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY FOR THE UPCOMING SESSION.
WHAT? WHAT OTHER THOUGHTS DO YOU HAVE? I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DIGEST THE LIST HERE.
KIM. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I.
I LIKE THE SUMMARY THAT YOU JUST GAVE.
I GUESS IN LOOKING AT DEADLINES, WHEN WOULD THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEET AGAIN? AND SO IN TERMS OF DIGESTING AND GIVING FEEDBACK, KNOWING THAT THINGS NEED TO START PRETTY SOON, WHAT KIND OF A DEADLINE DOES THE SUBCOMMITTEE NEED? WELL, WE WERE GOING TO MEET NEXT WEEK AFTER HAPPY HOUR AT SLA.
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NO WE WEREN'T. BUT BUT I DO THINK THAT WE CAN, WE SHOULD MEET AGAIN BEFORE WE BREAK FOR SUMMER.DO YOU THINK AND AND HAVE SOMETHING READY TO COME BACK? HOPEFULLY WE CAN SHARE IT VIA EMAIL AS SOON AS WE MEET, BUT WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION AS A BOARD IN AUGUST WHEN WE RECONVENE.
SO GIVE EVERYBODY A WEEK TO GIVE US FEEDBACK AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A MEETING OKAY.
IS THAT FAIR? OKAY. WHEN ARE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH LEGISLATORS HAPPENING DURING THE SUMMER, DURING JULY? WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT? OKAY, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE MEETING TOGETHER OR HOW YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT, BUT.
YES, ELLEN. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY HOW MUCH HOW GRATEFUL I AM THAT WE HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF DONNA HOWARD, VICKI GOODWIN AND SENATOR SARAH ECKHARDT. THEY ARE ALL SUCH STAUNCH SUPPORTERS OF PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEIR CONSTITUENCIES LIKE US, TO DO JUST AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. AND THEY'RE IN A PRETTY DIFFICULT SITUATION.
OKAY. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
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WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION OF BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE.AUDREY, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? AND I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO, THOUGH IS WE'LL START WITH THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE OR THE, WHAT DO WE CALL IT, POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE.
DO YOU WANT TO? THERE SHE GOES ON, SHE'S DUCKING OUT.
SHE'S SNEAKING OUT THE BACK DOOR.
YOU WANT TO. WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE LEAD ON GIVING US A REPORT ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING TONIGHT? WELL THE COMMITTEE MET.
HAVE WE MET TWICE? KNEW THAT WE HAD MET TWICE ABOUT A TWO MONTHS AGO, SIX WEEKS AGO, AND THEN JUST RECENTLY.
THE RESULT OF JUST THE MOST RECENT MEETING WAS THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, WHICH BY OUR BY OUR BOP, WE MUST LOOK AT ON A AN ANNUAL BASIS.
SO AUDREY CAN GO THROUGH OR ALL OF US HAVE SEEN THIS.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE THE CHANGES WE HAVE MADE.
WHAT? THE WAY THAT I APPROACHED IT WAS LOOKING AT THINGS IN THE BOARD, OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT WERE NOT EITHER NOT ARTICULATED HERE OR OR WERE JUST TO CLEAN UP.
LAURA HAD A GREAT IDEA OF AS WE WALKED THROUGH THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.
WE'RE TYING THEM TO THE LOCAL POLICIES AS WELL SO THAT WE COULD WE COULD KNOW WHERE THEY ORIGINATED OR SOME BACKING TO THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.
I THINK THAT WE AND WHEN I SAID THAT WE WE ADDED THINGS THAT WERE NEW IN OUR OPERATING. WE ADDED THE SUBCOMMITTEES, THE BOARD SUBCOMMITTEES.
WE ADDED COUPLE OF THINGS IN TERMS OF.
IDEAS OF OFFICER POSITION, AND I THINK THIS MAY HAVE COME FROM A TRUSTEE.
MAYBE THE IDEA WAS OFFICER POSITION OR EITHER BOARD PRESIDENT POSITION, HAVING SOME TIME ON THE BOARD PRIOR TO BEING ELECTED, EITHER AS AN OFFICER OR BOARD PRESIDENT.
I'LL STOP THERE. I WASN'T PREPARED TO SUMMARIZE.
THAT'S OKAY. NO, THAT WAS GOOD.
AND, LAURA, DO YOU WANT TO ADD.
NOW I WON'T SUMMARIZE THE CHANGES.
THE WAY THAT WE HAVE OUR POLICY, THE FORMAT OF IT RIGHT NOW, OUR BOP REFERENCES CERTAIN POLICIES.
AND SO WHAT COMES OUT OF THE REFERENCE THAT I WAS DOING WAS I WENT BACK THROUGH AND LOOKED AT IT SAYS, BE LIKE IT WILL SAY AT THE TOP POLICY BE AND IT HAS AN ASTERISK.
AND SO YOU'D HAVE TO READ THE, THE BOP AND SEE THE ASTERISK AND THEN GO BACK UP AND REFERENCE.
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AND SO I WENT BACK AND REVERSE ENGINEERED ESSENTIALLY ALL THIS THOSE CHANGES ARE NOT REFLECTED BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT UNTIL MORE RECENTLY.SO AT A LATER DATE, WE WILL MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, AUDREY, AND WE CAN BRING THAT BACK AGAIN.
YES, BUT THOSE ARE ANY, WE'RE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS OR SORT OF GIVE YOU ALL THE INSIGHT INTO SOME OF THESE PROPOSED CHANGES. OKAY.
SO I WOULD PROPOSE LET'S JUST START AND GO IN ORDER DOWN BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE.
SO IT STARTS WITH MEETINGS OF THE BOARD RIGHT? AM I LOOKING AT THAT CORRECTLY? THAT'S THE FIRST PAGE MEETING OF THE BOARD.
THE CHANGE ONE CHANGE TO NOTE HERE IS IN AGENDAS SECTION I1.
I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE INTENT.
I DON'T THINK THE WORDING HAS BEEN THAT, BUT ANY THOUGHTS OR YEAH.
HEATHER. I THINK IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT WAS PREPARED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT FOR APPROVAL BY THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, BECAUSE THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE INCLUDES THE PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T REALLY DO THE AGENDA.
I DON'T. KIM, DO YOU HAVE A THOUGHT? THIS ISN'T MY HILL TO DIE ON.
I YEAH, I ASSUMED THAT THERE WAS COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT AND THE SUPERINTENDENT, AND I THINK THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION AROUND THIS. IT WASN'T TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT.
BUT I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE WAY THAT IT WORKED.
BUT AGAIN, IT WAS THE INTENT HERE WAS JUST TO DESCRIBE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
IF THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT HAPPENS, THEN YEAH, LET'S TAKE IT OUT AND.
BY WAY OF INFORMATION TO THE BOARD.
THE CURRENT PROCESS IS THAT I THINK DOCTOR ARNETT AND AND PATTY GET TOGETHER AND MAKE A DRAFT AGENDA THAT WE REVIEW IN EXACT, AND SOMETIMES DOCTOR ARNETT AND I DO TALK HAVE ONE OFF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT.
SHOULD WE LOOK AT REBALANCING? WE DO HAVE SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT I AND SO I'M FINE WITH THE WORDING EITHER WAY.
I DO THINK, LIKE HEATHER SAYS, THE KEY HERE IS THAT THIS IS APPROVED BY THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
THE EXEC ULTIMATELY SETS THE AGENDA, AND WE HAD EXACT THIS MORNING, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE WENT OVER THE NEXT MEETING'S AGENDA AND MOVED A COUPLE OF THINGS AROUND JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT HAD TO FLOW.
AND SO THE REALITY IS, IT IS EXACT.
DO Y'ALL LOOK AT A COUPLE OF AGENDAS, UPCOMING AGENDAS? OKAY. WELL, TODAY WAS A KIND OF UNIQUE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T LOOK AT AUGUST, FOR EXAMPLE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE PREPARING FOR SUMMIT IN JANUARY, FOR EXAMPLE.
WE'RE GOING TO WANT SOME COMMITTEE REPORTS TO COME IN AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO WE TALK REAL GENERALLY HIGH LEVEL ABOUT THE FALL, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THAT WORK VERY EFFECTIVELY WITH THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO HAVE LIKE THREE MONTHS, EVEN THOUGH THE ONES THAT ARE FURTHER OUT, OF COURSE, ARE VERY PRELIMINARY AND NOT FULL AGENDAS.
BUT I FOUND IT VERY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF BALANCING THE ISSUES AND THE TIME AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND CERTAINLY I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AUDREY'S ROLE IN ADDING THINGS BECAUSE SO MANY THINGS NEED TO BE NEED TO HAVE BOARD APPROVAL AND I'M GUESSING YOU'RE THE KEEPER OF THAT CALENDAR.
SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE ANY NEED TO TO ADD THAT IN, I'M DONE. DIANE, AND ONE REAL QUICK, THOUGH, WHILE SHE GETS READY TO SPEAK IS, AND BOARD PRESIDENT.
IS THAT IS THAT A REFERENCED FROM A STATE DOCUMENT OR SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT? OKAY. GO AHEAD.
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COMMENTS THERE, ELLEN.THE VERY FIRST, YOU KNOW, POINT 1A1 OR WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE CALENDAR, INCLUDING AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE OF A CYCLICAL AND OR RECURRING NATURE AND YOU MENTIONED THE EVALUATIONS.
I'M WONDERING, ARE YOU EVEN LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THIS POINT ON, WHEN EXACTLY ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING THAT EVALUATION? BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IS THAT ON A CALENDAR? IS THAT ON A GOOGLE CALENDAR NOW? I DON'T THINK HONESTLY, WE DON'T HAVE A DATE SET.
WELL, I'VE SEEN THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A DAY ON.
WE HAVE THAT ALSO IN HERE, BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVEN'T.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE A LOT BETTER, BUT SOMETIMES IT SLIPS.
AND UNLESS SOMETHING CRAZY HAPPENS AND WE CAN'T FIT IT, THEN WE'LL SHIFT AND ADAPT.
BUT I THINK GOING TO WHAT ELLEN SAID AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY DO A BETTER JOB OF SAYING IN GENERALLY IN SEPTEMBER, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DISCUSSING THESE THINGS IN OCTOBER, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DOING THESE THINGS IN NOVEMBER AND TRY TO BE A COUPLE OF MONTHS IN ADVANCE, MAYBE NOT SIX MONTHS, BUT MAYBE FOR THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS, WE'LL HAVE AGENDAS FOR THE 2 OR 3 MONTHS AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE TOPICS THAT WE HOPE TO COVER IN THAT MONTH.
SOUNDS GREAT. WE'VE ACTUALLY IN AGAIN IN YEARS PAST, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD DO IT THE WAY WE DID IT THEN, BUT IT WAS A DOCUMENT AND IT HAD EACH MONTH. AND AND THERE WAS A TOP SECTION AND A BOTTOM SECTION.
AND I BELIEVE THE THINGS ON THE BOTTOM WERE THE THINGS THAT STATUTORILY WE NEEDED TO APPROVE THE MOUS WITH LOCAL ENTITIES, WITH JJ, THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS COME UP AT THE SAME TIME EVERY YEAR.
AND THEN ON THE TOP SECTION FOR EACH MONTH, THERE WOULD BE BULLET POINTS OF THINGS.
AND THEN IT WOULD BE THE LOCAL ON TOP WITH THINGS THAT WE TRADITIONALLY DO AT THAT TIME, LIKE THE SUPERINTENDENT EVALUATION, LIKE THE ELECTION OF BOARD OFFICERS YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE WERE I THINK IT WAS A QUARTER AT A TIME.
SO THREE MONTHS AT A TIME, THERE WERE FOUR PAGES, AND YOU COULD KIND OF GET A FEEL FOR THE WHOLE YEAR IN TERMS OF WHERE THOSE THINGS THAT WERE MANDATORY AND REQUIRED, NEEDED TO GO, AND THE BENEFIT OF THAT, IN MY MIND, WAS IT ALLOWS US TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE THE ISSUES THAT WE FEEL AS BOARD MEMBERS, WE NEED TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON MAYBE A SPECIAL REPORT OR A DEEP DIVE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND WE COULD SEE WHEN AND HOW ACROSS THE WHOLE YEAR WE MIGHT HAVE TIME, AND IT ALLOWED US TO BE CREATIVE THEN IN TERMS OF, OKAY, WE WANT TO TAKE THE SECOND MEETING OF EACH QUARTER.
IT JUST GAVE US A WAY TO BEGIN TO THINK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE WAYS THAT WE COULD SCHEDULE IN WAYS TO BRING THINGS TO OUR ATTENTION IN THE COMMUNITY'S ATTENTION.
AND ELLEN, THAT DOCUMENT STILL EXISTS.
IN FACT, PATTY SHARED A VERSION OF THAT TODAY, AND WE STILL REFER TO IT INTERNALLY.
THE WHOLE PROCESS IS REALLY KIND OF ITERATIVE BECAUSE PATTY AND AUDREY AND I WILL LOOK AT THOSE BIGGER TOPICS THAT WE KNOW NEED TO COME AT A REGULAR TIME. EACH YEAR, WE'LL REVIEW THOSE WITH CABINET TO FIGURE OUT WHAT REPORTS AND INFORMATION THEY HAVE THAT WE CAN INSERT INTO THAT, AND THEN WE BRING IT TO EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. SO IT'S STILL A PART OF THE PROCESS.
GOOD. I THOUGHT IT WAS HELPFUL.
YOU KNOW, JUST GIVE THEM A MONTH VIEW FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
I WOULD ASK FOR THE BOARD'S FORGIVENESS, THAT SOMETIMES WE MAY MOVE THINGS AROUND A BIT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY TRY TO BE MINDFUL OF OF NOT HAVING A MEETING THAT GOES UNTIL 11, YOU KNOW, ONE ONE WEEK AND THEN COME BACK TWO WEEKS LATER AND END AT SEVEN.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO REBALANCE.
AND ALTHOUGH LEGALLY WE HAVE THINGS WE HAVE TO DISCUSS, AND THAT'S WHY WE WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THAT DOCUMENT MORE BROADLY, BECAUSE WE'VE LEARNED OVER TIME THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT SHIFT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
I ALWAYS FELT IT WAS HELPFUL WHEN BOARD MEMBERS SAID, ARE WE EVER GOING TO TALK ABOUT OR COULD WE GET A REPORT ON? IT'S LIKE, WELL, IF YOU LOOK ON HERE, IT'S SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER ISH.
YOU KNOW, SO I FELT IT WAS ALSO A BOARD EXPECTATION AND INFORMATION FLOW MANAGEMENT TOOL.
I'M GOING TO GO TO HEATHER AND THEN LAURA DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH I JUST HEATHER.
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NO, IT'S A TOTAL PROBLEM.OKAY, I AM I WILL CLARIFY THAT.
AND I WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SUBMITTING THOSE.
SO IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT THOSE MAKE NOTE OF THAT.
AND THEN YOU CAN SUBMIT THOSE.
AND THE THE POLICY COMMITTEE WILL TAKE THOSE UP AND TONIGHT WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE THAT THE POLICY COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY WORKED THROUGH.
WAS THAT CLEAR? WAS THAT CLARIFYING? SO ON THE RED LINE UNDER AGENDAS B1, THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE DATE, TIME AND LOCATION OF EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
I DO THINK THAT IT IS HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT ON OUR TRUSTEE CALENDAR, SO THAT TRUSTEES ARE AWARE OF WHEN EXEC IS MEETING, SO THAT IF THEY HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON AN AGENDA, THAT THEY KNOW WHEN THE DEADLINE IS FOR EXEC TO MEET.
SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO SAY EXACTLY THIS, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO SAY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF INFORMATION REGARDING THE DATE AND TIME WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE TRUSTEES, IF NOTHING ELSE, AND IT SHOULD BE PROBABLY ON OUR OUR SHARED CALENDAR.
RIGHT. AND JUST TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS THERE.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AN OPEN MEETING.
IT'S A, IT'S THREE TRUSTEES RIGHT.
BUT I DO AGREE THAT THE BOARD SHOULD KNOW.
AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HIDE THAT MAYBE IF A COMMUNITY MEMBER ASKS YOU WHEN IS THE EXACT MEETING THAT'S NOT PRIVATE INFORMATION, BUT IT'S JUST NOT A MEETING THAT THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND. SO CAN WE ALTER THAT TO MAKE THAT BE SOMETHING ABOUT TRUSTEES WILL HAVE IT.
THANK YOU. YEAH. AND THIS IS CLARIFYING.
SO LEAVE THE LANGUAGE AS IS, BUT SWITCH TRUSTEES FOR PUBLIC.
MEETINGS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE TRUSTEES VIA APPROPRIATE COMMUNICATION METHODS.
AND DID WE DECIDE ON THE AND BOARD PRESIDENT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY.. I THINK THE CONSENSUS WAS IT WASN'T NECESSARY.
I DID NOT REALIZE THAT WE DID NOT POST OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS BECAUSE I THOUGHT, AS A TRUSTEE, IF THERE WERE SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED THAT I WAS ANY OF THE TRUSTEES COULD COME.
WE USED TO POST SO THAT ANY TRUSTEE COULD ATTEND, NOT VOTE AND NOT BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
NOR HAS A TRUSTEE EVER ASKED TO ATTEND.
I MEAN, I'M NOT. YOU WANT IT TO BE AN OPEN MEETING? YOU HAVE TO REVISIT THAT, WE CAN REVISIT.
THERE WERE SUBSTANTIAL OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHANGES IN 2017 AND 2019.
SO, I MEAN, IT COULD BE MADE PUBLIC, PUBLIC IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE MORE THAN THREE TRUSTEES THERE.
BUT YEAH, WE WE REMOVED THAT LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT WASN'T.
YEAH. WHAT IT WOULD REMOVE FLEXIBILITY.
I MEAN, TO HEATHER'S POINT, IF WE NEED TO KNOW THE DATE AND THE TIME SO THAT IF A TRUSTEE WANTS SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, THEY COULD MAKE SURE AND MAKE THAT REQUEST. WELL, IT COULD BE THAT THAT TRUSTEE MIGHT BE IN A UNIQUE POSITION TO COME AND TALK ABOUT WHY THAT REQUEST IS MADE AND WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS. AND THE IF IT IS A CLOSED MEETING, WE HAVE NO MECHANISM.
I GUESS WE ALWAYS HAVE THE MECHANISM OF POSTING IN SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
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COMMITTEES, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COMING FROM THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, AND THERE WAS NOT A REPRESENTATIVE ON EXECUTIVE.THERE'S NOT A REPRESENTATIVE NOW ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WHO AND SO IF THERE WAS ANYTHING COMING FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I. SO A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.
ONE IS THERE'S NO BUSINESS DISCUSSED AT EXEC.
NO DECISIONS ARE MADE, NO VOTES ARE TAKEN.
WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT DISCUSSING THIS TOPIC AT THE NEXT MEETING VERSUS THE ONE FOLLOWING? AND I SUPPOSE IF THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AMONG THREE TRUSTEES, A STRAW VOTE ON WHICH MEETING IT GOES TO, BUT EXECUTIVES SOLELY FOCUSED ON SETTING AGENDAS.
I WOULD PROBABLY JUST MOVE THAT TO OPEN.
WHEN DO WE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA? I JUST DON'T SEE ANY IF IF THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE OR THE FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING, WE'LL TALK ABOUT, WE'LL JUST PUT IT ON AN AGENDA AND TALK ABOUT IT. I DON'T I'M MISSING.
HEATHER. I THINK TO ELLEN'S POINT, AND WHEN I DID SERVE ON EXEC THERE WERE SEVERAL OCCASIONS WHERE A TRUSTEE HAD ASKED FOR SOMETHING TO BE PLACED ON AN AGENDA, AND THERE WERE QUESTIONS, IF THAT, IF THE INFORMATION HAD OR IF THE TRUSTEE HAD FELT LIKE THAT WAS STILL NEEDED TO BE ON AN AGENDA, OR IF THEY SIMPLY NEEDED MORE INFORMATION.
AND SO I DO AGREE WITH ELLEN, AND AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MAYBE NEEDS TO BE AN OPEN MEETING ALL THE TIME, BUT IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE, OH, I NEED TO CALL THAT PERSON TO GET CLARITY.
BUT IT NEVER IT DIDN'T NEVER STOPPED BUSINESS FOR EXAMPLE, IT DIDN'T STOP BUSINESS.
LET'S THINK ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD WORK, IF IT WAS AN OPEN MEETING.
OKAY. WE WOULD COME DOWN HERE.
WE WOULD POST AN AGENDA ON THURSDAY BEFORE EXEC, WE WOULD COME DOWN HERE, WE WOULD GAVEL OPEN A MEETING AND WE WOULD SAY, WE'RE NOW MOVING INTO CLOSED SESSION, AND WE WOULD CLOSE AND END THAT MEETING FROM THE CLOSED SESSION.
NOT NECESSARILY AND I GUESS IT COULD BE LIKE ONE OF THOSE THINGS, LIKE IF YOU'RE SUBMITTING AN EMAIL AND YOU HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE AND YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO PRESENT TO EXEC SOMETHING, YOU COULD LIKE, CHECK A BOX.
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL THE TIME.
IF IT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION.
I DON'T KNOW. IT'S NOT MY HILL.
I'M JUST. WHAT IS THE MAJORITY OF THE TRUSTEE FEELING HERE? DO A MAJORITY OF TRUSTEES FEELING THAT WE NEED TO DO EXEC IN OPEN SESSION.
I'M GOING TO JUST WEIGH IN, BECAUSE IN YOUR EXAMPLE, MOST OF WHAT AS SOMEONE WHO SITS IN EXEC, MOST OF WHAT'S DISCUSSED IN EXEC WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR SESSION DISCUSSION. SO THAT WOULD JUST BE..
OKAY, SO.. LIKE THIS OPEN CONVERSATION.
I'M TRYING TO THINK I DON'T THINK HE EVER.
OKAY. WHAT TRUSTEES WANT EXACT TO BE OPEN AN OPEN MEETING LIKE THIS.
YEAH, I, I WOULD SAY THAT IT ADDS A LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY PROCEDURAL COMPLEXITY, NOT NOT MAKING DECISIONS, BUT PROCEDURAL COMPLEXITY.
CORRECT. AND SO EXEC WOULD TURN INTO POTENTIALLY A MUCH LONGER.
IT WOULD BE ANOTHER BOARD MEETING.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE ON EXEC IN THAT CASE.
HONESTLY, I JUST WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO THAT.
I ACTUALLY HAD THE TOPIC OF THE REQUEST FOR AGENDA ITEMS AS A NOTE THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP THIS POINT TOO, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO REQUEST SOME VERY SIMPLE WORDING TO BE ADDED. AND I KNOW YOU WERE SAYING, JUST SEND ME SOME EDITS, AND I WAS GOING TO ASK, DOES THAT MEAN I SHOULDN'T BRING IT UP? BUT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN SO MUCH DEPTH, THIS, YOU KNOW, ANY TWO TRUSTEES, IT'S AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PAGE MAY SUBMIT A REQUEST.
IF WE COULD JUST SAY THAT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THE ENTIRE BOARD IS NOTIFIED.
TRUSTEES. SO AND SO AND SO AND SO HAVE REQUESTED THAT THIS ITEM BE PUT ON AN AGENDA.
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THERE'S NO GUARANTEE OF WHEN IT ENDS UP ON THE AGENDA.BUT JUST SO THAT EVERYONE'S AWARE AND THEN IF WE NEVER SEE IT SHOW UP AND OTHER PEOPLE THINK IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A GOOD TOPIC, THEN WE CAN BE CALLING JAMES AND SAYING, HEY, WHERE'S MY ITEM? OR PERHAPS EVEN WHEN WE REQUEST SOMETHING, WE GIVE AN EXPLANATION OF WHY WE WANT IT TO BE ON AN AGENDA.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO REQUEST IT, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU'RE REQUESTING IT, AND THEN YOU HAVE IT IN WRITING, INSTEAD OF NEEDING TO HAVE SOMEONE THERE TO DISCUSS IT AT. LAURA AGAIN.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO WRITE UP THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT AND THEN PROPOSE THAT FOR ADOPTION, WHEN WE ADOPT THESE CHANGES, THAT'S.
YEAH, THAT'S GREAT, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO HOW WE'RE.
BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT UP IN DISCUSSION.
IT'S JUST THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT TWO TRUSTEES HAVE TO SUBMIT.
BUT IF SOME IF IF THOSE TRUSTEES WANTED TO SAY AND THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY VERSUS IN ANOTHER DUO OF TRUSTEES DIDN'T DO THAT LIKE THAT'S PERMISSIBLE RIGHT NOW. I DON'T WANT TO PUT UNNECESSARY WORK ON TRUSTEES IF IT SEEMS LIKE AN OBVIOUS AGENDA ITEM.
IF IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES WHERE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION HAS BEEN NEEDED.
I DON'T WANT TO OVERREGULATE ANYTHING.
I COULD SEE DOCTOR ARNETT, INCLUDING SOMETHING IN HIS WEEKLY REPORT THAT SAYS THESE TWO TRUSTEES HAVE ASKED FOR THIS TOPIC FOR A FUTURE BOARD MEETING. IF YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT, AND IF THEY WANT TO PROVIDE A PARAGRAPH ABOUT WHY OR WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
I. I THINK THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
BUT SEE, IF YOU PUT IT IN POLICY, IT'S REQUIRED.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE BOARD GETS NOTIFIED.
WE GET NOTIFIED WHEN A REQUEST FOR AN AGENDA ITEM HAS BEEN MADE.
AND I THINK THAT'S NOT A BIG LIFT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET THAT SPECIFIC, WHATEVER YOU THINK IS REASONABLE.
I MEAN IT'S POLICY. I WOULD LEAVE IT TO YOU TO SAY WHAT IS REASONABLE TO NOTIFY.
BUT YEAH, TWO WEEKS SEEMS. YOU WANT TO WRITE THAT UP AND WE'LL JUST INCLUDE IT AND VOTE ON IT.
I'M GOING TO JUMP IN ON ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT I HAD THAT'S NOT ON YOUR RED LINE.
BECAUSE IT IS WHERE THE BOP DIFFERS FROM THE LOCAL POLICY.
AND IT'S NUMBER C, IT'S ON THE SECOND PAGE, SO IT'S ONE C.
IT'S. UNLESS THERE ARE EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES THAT SENTENCE IT SAYS, AND AT LEAST TWO HOURS PRIOR TO AN EMERGENCY BOARD MEETING, OUR LOCAL POLICY HAS IT AT ONE.
IT'S TWO? OKAY. SO WE NEED TO ADJUST OUR POLICY OKAY.
WE'LL MAKE NOTE OF THAT. THANK YOU.
DO WE DARE MOVE DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER? YES, ELLEN.
I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT US LOCKING THAT IN.
I GET YOUR POINT. ALSO, WE DO HAVE REGULAR BOARD MEETINGS, BUT FOR THE LAST LOTS OF YEARS, WE'VE ALSO BEEN VERY CONSISTENT WITH OUR STUDY SESSIONS, WHICH OFTEN TURN INTO SPECIAL MEETINGS.
AND SO IT'S REALLY EVERY OTHER TUESDAY AS OPPOSED TO OR REGULAR BOARD MEETINGS WILL BE HELD MONTHLY.
I DON'T KNOW THIS JUST UNDER-REPRESENTS THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT WE PRETTY CONSISTENTLY MEET.
IT DOESN'T GOING TO SOMETHING WE SAID EARLIER.
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OH YEAH, THERE ARE LOTS OF BOARDS THAT MEET ONCE A MONTH, BUT SINCE WE TYPICALLY MEET TWICE A MONTH, I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS.DO YOU HAVE A PROPOSED WORDING THERE? DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US A PROPOSED WORDING? IT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL IF IT'S I MEAN IT..
YOUR MESSAGE. YOU'RE GOING TO WORK ON A PROPOSED WORDING.
YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
THE IT'S THE EXPECTATION, THE EXPECTATION.
WE WILL HAVE ONE REGULAR MEETING EVERY MONTH IF WE GO IF WE ACCEPT JULY.
AND WHAT WAS THAT? IS IT? SO I, IT IS THE GENERAL PRACTICE OF MOST BOARDS TO NOT MEET IN JULY.
AND I WENT AND LOOKED AT SURROUNDING DISTRICTS, MY PREVIOUS DISTRICT.
MOST OF THEM HAVE THAT WRITTEN INTO THEIR POLICY BECAUSE THE WILL IS MANDATORY.
I JUST GET A LITTLE TWITCHY WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE SAY WE'LL WILL NOT MEET, RIGHT? I THAT I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT.
DOES THIS WORDING MEAN THAT WE CAN'T MEET IN JULY? OKAY. IT'S SETTING THE EXPECTATION.
AND SO IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T DO MORE.
AND SO IF IT SAYS WE'RE MEETING EVERY MONTH, WE NEED TO BE MEETING EVERY MONTH.
I MEAN, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST ADDING THE WORD GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT BOARD MEETINGS ARE HELD MONTHLY, COMMA, GENERALLY, EXCEPT FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, SO THAT IT GIVES US THAT FLEXIBILITY THAT I MEAN, DURING COVID, WE DID MEET DURING JULY, I THINK WE MET FAIRLY FREQUENTLY, BUT IT'S BUT IT COULD IT COULD BE WE'LL MEET AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH.
I MEAN LIKE AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH, EVERY MONTH EXCEPT JULY.
RIGHT. AND THEN IT COVERS YOUR SPECIALS AND YOUR STUDY SESSION.
GO RIGHT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
WE CAN GO TO, IT LOOKS LIKE THE NEXT CHANGE.
UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO ADDRESS A CHANGE THERE.
THERE ARE DATE CHANGES, OF COURSE.
AND THE THE REFERENCES TO POLICY.
VACANCIES. VACANCIES C, BOARD SUBCOMMITTEES.
WHAT PAGE IS THAT? SORRY. PAGE EIGHT IN THE POLICY IN THE POLICY.
OH, GOSH. IT'S IT'S THERE'S A LITTLE NUMBER EIGHT BOARD SUBCOMMITTEE.
OKAY. IT'S JUST STRAIGHT FORWARD.
YES. YOU SPECIFICALLY PUT THREE SUBCOMMITTEES IN HERE.
AND I MEAN, YOU DID JUST COMMENT THAT THIS IS JUST SAYING THE MINIMUM AND WE CAN GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, BUT WE KNOW WE HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMITTEES.
SHOULD WE? WHY DID YOU JUST CHOOSE THESE? DID YOU FEEL LIKE THESE WERE THE CORE COMMITTEES THAT WE.
BECAUSE WE HAVE THE LONG RANGE FACILITIES PLANNING COMMITTEE, WE HAVE THE EEF COMMITTEE.
SO THESE THREE ARE SPECIFIC SUBCOMMITTEES OF THE BOARD, WHEREAS OTHER COMMITTEES ARE AT LARGE COMMITTEES WHERE WE'RE TRUSTEE EX OFFICIO MEMBERS OF OTHER COMMITTEES.
BUT THESE ARE SPECIFICALLY BOARD SUBCOMMITTEES.
BUT BUT RIGHT NOW, THESE ARE THE BOARDS.
I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT IT. WRONG.
SO TO DIANE'S POINT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T MAKE MENTION OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES, BUT WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING OUR, OUR NEW WAY OF DOING THINGS AND LOOKING AT COMMITTEES.
WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE OUR INTEREST FORM AND THEN YOU KNOW, IT SAYS ON THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR ASSIGNMENTS WOULD BE NO LATER THAN JUNE 30TH. SO BUT ALL OF THAT KIND OF GOES TOGETHER.
SO SHOULD THERE BE SOME MENTION OF OTHER COMMITTEES? POSSIBLY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE AT LARGE, BUT SOME MENTION OF THAT.
AND THEN I'M ALSO ADDING SOME SORT OF LANGUAGE AND I DON'T HAVE IT.
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AND THEN AND THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.AND SO SOME, SOME LANGUAGE ON ROTATION ON HOW LIKE AND I'M NOT SAYING TERM LIMITS NECESSARILY, BUT LIKE SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF THAT FOR COMMITTEES.
YOU DIDN'T YOU, YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MICROPHONE BEING ON OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED I CAN'T.
YEAH. FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE WE DID GET INTO A DISCUSSION ON AT LARGE COMMITTEES VERSUS BOARD SUBCOMMITTEES, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY IT WAS WRITTEN.
AND YOU GUYS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
AND THEN WE WENT INTO THE PROCESS OF HOW WE WOULD ALLOW TRUSTEES TO SERVE.
I THINK YOUR SUGGESTION IS A GOOD ONE, THAT WHEN WE PUT IN OUR PREFERENCE, IT'S NOT ONLY THE BOARD SUBCOMMITTEES, BUT IT'S ALSO AT LARGE SUBCOMMITTEES TO THE SO AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND THAT IT IN OUR FIRST TRY.
AND THAT WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT WHAT WAS YOUR SECOND.
SO FROM A ROTATION STANDPOINT HOW WOULD YOU DRAFT THAT.
JUST, YOU KNOW, TRUSTEE SUBMIT THEIR PREFERENCES TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND THE BOARD PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW, WILL AT THE BOARD PRESIDENT'S DISCRETION WILL MAKE SURE THAT TRUSTEES HAVE THE ABILITY TO SERVE ON ON A ROTATION BASIS ON VARIOUS SUBCOMMITTEES.
I'M NOT SURE HOW TO WORD THAT.
YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND SO MAYBE WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN OUR POLICY.
JUST A REMINDER. THEN YOU WOULD YOU WOULD ROLL OFF OF LEGISLATIVE.
THE MY PROBLEM WITH THIS, TWO THOUGHTS ON THIS.
SORT OF A WHOLE POLICY ON WHAT HOW THE SUBCOMMITTEES WERE CHOSEN AND ALL THAT AND MEMBERSHIPS.
AND IT AND IT COULD BE AN ADDENDUM, LIKE THE COMMUNICATION STUFF AT THE END.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ACCOMPLISH HERE.
I DON'T WHAT'S BROKEN THAT WE'RE FIXING.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THIS DOWN FURTHER IN THE POLICY WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT AN OFFICER, AN EXEC MEMBER NEEDS TO HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD 18 MONTHS AND PUTTING THINGS IN, LIKE YOU HAVE TO ROTATE TO ME IN A WAY DOES REFRESH, BUT IT MAY LIMIT YOU TO HAVING TO PUT MEMBERS ON COMMITTEES THAT YOU DON'T WANT ON THOSE COMMITTEES OR INTO EXEC THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT ON EXEC.
AND AND SO I'M A LITTLE HUNG UP ON THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY POSITION.
SO I AGREED THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE MADE CHANGES THIS AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE HAD NOT FULLY BAKED THE WHOLE PROCESS AND WE JUST CREATED THE COMMITTEES, BUT BECAUSE THE BOARDS WILL IS TO HAVE CHANGE.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE IN POLICY.
CAN WE GET [INAUDIBLE] JUST HAD GREAT LANGUAGE THAT I WAS FINE WITH.
I GUESS AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS MORE, I UNDERSTAND WHY I WAS CONFUSED, BECAUSE MY RECOLLECTION IN THE CONSIDERATION OF FORMING THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND APPOINTING PEOPLE TO THESE OTHER COMMITTEES WAS THAT IT WAS KIND OF ALL DONE AS A PROCESS TOGETHER.
YOU WERE TRYING TO GIVE PEOPLE ROLES THAT BALANCED.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO PUT STUFF IN WRITING THAT TIES US, YOU KNOW, BUT I WANTED TO JUMP BACK IN AND SAY THAT AT SOME POINT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME LANGUAGE. MAYBE IT'S NOT THIS YEAR.
MAYBE WE DO WAIT, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO PUT IN HERE.
I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE FIXING WITH SEE THERE.
BUT IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE BOARD, THEN WE SHOULD.
FOR THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.
TO ME, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE SAY THE BOARD WILL DO THIS.
WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS BY JUNE 30TH OF EVERY YEAR.
OKAY. AT LEAST FOR RIGHT NOW, UNTIL WE KNOW MORE ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, TO YOUR POINT OF LAURA YEAH, I SUPPORT THAT.
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I THINK THAT THE MORE THAT WE PUT IN HERE, THE MORE THAT WE TIE OUR HANDS.AND SINCE THIS IS NEW AND IT'S A NEW PROCESS, I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST LET IT BAKE FOR A YEAR.
OR UNTIL WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT AND DIGEST SOME OTHER LANGUAGE.
WAY THAT IT WAS BEFORE WHERE THERE WAS NOT A PROCESS.
IT SHOULD ALWAYS JUST BE OPEN FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO SERVE.
I THINK WHAT HASN'T BEEN SAID YET IS THAT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS CONSIDERED IN HERE, AND IT'S NOT LISTED AS SOMETHING THAT'S TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE APPOINTING.
SO I DON'T YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING HERE.
HEATHER. I'M HAPPY TO GO HOME.
THINK ABOUT IT. MAYBE SUGGEST SOME LANGUAGE OR OTHER PEOPLE CAN SUGGEST SOME SUGGEST SOME LANGUAGE, AND THEN Y'ALL CAN STEW ON IT AND DECIDE WHAT YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE TO PUT IN HERE. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE MIGHT LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING AND BUT PERHAPS OTHERS MIGHT BE WILLING TO WAIT A YEAR.
SO IF YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU LIKE COME FROM US, THEN GREAT.
KIM. I JUST WANTED TO ASK FROM A TIMELINE STANDPOINT.
AUDREY, IS THERE A DEADLINE IN WHICH WE NEED TO REVIEW THIS? OKAY? I DON'T THINK SO.
I DID WANT TO POINT OUT FOR THAT RIGHT ABOVE WHERE WE WERE DISCUSSING AGENDAS, IT DOES LIST OUT.
SO EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS DONE SEPARATELY BECAUSE YOU GUYS SELECT YOUR INTERNAL OFFICERS.
AND THAT IS HOW EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS DEFINED IN THE BOPS.
AND SO IT'S SEPARATE THAN A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE BOARD, WHICH IS MORE OR LESS KIND OF DELEGATED BY THE BOARD PRESIDENT BASED ON YOUR INTEREST.
YES, HEATHER, PER OUR NEW PROCESS, THOUGH, IT'S THE SAME FORM.
AND SO THAT INTEREST LEVEL IS BASED THE SAME WAY IF YOU WANT TO BE ON IT, ONE OF THESE COMMITTEES OR ON EXEC.
SO THE WAY THAT I THAT WE'VE DONE THIS ONE TIME AND THE WAY THAT I DID THAT WAS I ASKED EACH TRUSTEE TO INDICATE HOW MANY YOU FELT LIKE YOU COULD DO. CAN YOU DO TWO, THREE, ONE, WHATEVER THAT WAS.
THEN I ASKED EACH TRUSTEE TO RANK.
NUMBER ONE IS LEGISLATIVE, NUMBER TWO IS LONG RANGE, ETC.
AND CONSIDERING THE NUMBER ONES, I CONSIDERED EXEC AS YOUR NUMBER ONE, JUST AUTOMATICALLY.
IF YOU WERE ON EXEC, YOU GOT THAT WAS YOUR NUMBER ONE.
SO SOMEONE WHO WASN'T ON EXEC WAS MORE LIKELY TO GET THEIR NUMBER ONE RIGHT.
AND SO THAT'S HOW EXEC PLAYED INTO IT.
IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROCESS FOR SELECTING EXEC THAN IT IS FOR SELECTING SUBCOMMITTEES.
YOU MAY SET THIS UP, AND YOU MAY SET THIS UP SUCH THAT THE PRESIDENT DECIDES, AND IT MAY BE THE PRESIDENT DECIDES SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, BUT IT IT WOULD BE DECIDED, OR IT'S GOING TO BE DECIDED BY A VOTE OF THE BOARD.
SHALL WE MOVE TO? I BELIEVE IT'S AT THE BOTTOM.
OKAY SO AUTHORITY, SECTION TWO AUTHORITY D LIKE DAVID, TRUSTEES ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE 18 MONTHS OF SERVICE ON THE BOARD PRIOR TO BEING ELECTED AS A BOARD OFFICER.
I CAN SEE WHERE THIS PROBABLY STEMMED FROM.
WE'VE SEEN SOME BOARDS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IN OTHER DISTRICTS.
AND MAYBE THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO ENSURE THAT.
BRAND NEW BOARD MEMBERS DON'T SERVE AS PRESIDENT.
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THAT'S ALL I CAN, I CAN THINK OF.WHAT ARE THE THOUGHTS, KIM? I'LL JUST RESPOND.
AND AGAIN, THIS ISN'T WELL, IT CAME ABOUT BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT THERE HAD BEEN A REQUEST, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE A LITTLE VAGUE ON HAVING SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR BOARD OFFICERS.
AND IT GENERATED THE CONVERSATION ABOUT LEADERSHIP TASB HAVING AN 18 MONTH.
SO LEADERSHIP TASB REQUIRES THAT YOU SERVE ON A BOARD 18 MONTHS BEFORE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO APPLY.
THAT'S WHERE WE CONCLUDED AND LAURA, YOU JUMP IN HERE.
BUT IT WAS AGAIN, AROUND NOT HAVING SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO SERVE BUT MAY NOT HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME SITTING ON A BOARD TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCEDURES AND THE REQUIREMENTS.
AND IT WAS ONE OF THE IDEAS WAS MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SO MANY HOURS THAT YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING, BUT THEN HOW DO YOU MEASURE THAT? THAT SEEMED TO BE UNMANAGEABLE, AND WE LANDED AT SIMILAR TO LEADERSHIP TASB HAVING AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, 1 OR 2 CYCLES. AND IF YOU WERE ELECTED IN A SPECIAL SESSION, YOU KNOW, SOME SOMETHING SO THAT THERE'S SOME BOARD SERVICE BEFORE YOU SERVE AS A BOARD OFFICER.
LET ME GET LAURA. DID YOU HAVE ANY CLARIFYING ON THAT? AND THEN I'VE GOT DIANE AND ELLEN.
SO THIS WAS AGAIN, THIS CAME FROM A REQUEST AND THE INITIAL REQUEST.
AND WE ARE FUZZY ABOUT WHERE THAT REQUEST CAME FROM.
AND THAT GETS INTO WHAT KIND OF TRAINING, WHO DOES THE TRAINING, HOW MANY HOURS IS APPROPRIATE.
AND SO WE FROM THERE, WE WORKED THROUGH IT AND WE LANDED ON THIS.
YEAH, I THINK FROM JUST A PRACTICAL MATTER, THE, YOU KNOW, ROBERT'S RULE, I REFER TO ROBERT'S RULES.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE, AND I STILL REFER TO ROBERT'S RULES.
AND I THINK THAT IT IS JUST HELPFUL FOR SOMEONE WHO'S RUNNING.
I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT FOR A BOARD PRESIDENT, JUST IN SIMPLE TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING ROBERT'S RULES AND HOW A BOARD MEETING IS MANAGED, BECAUSE IT IS NOT INTUITIVE AND IT IS NOT EASY.
AND THEN WE WERE LIKE, WELL, VICE PRESIDENT ACTUALLY ISN'T REQUIRED BY LAW.
THE ONLY TWO POSITIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY LAW ARE SECRETARY AND PRESIDENT.
SO DO WE DO. SO THIS IS THIS IS WHERE WE WE ENDED UP.
BUT I'M NOT SURE I THINK THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
WE. WELL, EXCEPT FOR A LOT OF BOARD ELECTIONS, I.
YOU KNOW, I GUESS JAMES, YOU'RE A LITTLE QUESTIONABLE, BUT NO, I, I, I TRUST IN THIS BOARD.
I, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROCESS WE HAVE OUTLINED HERE TO CONSIDER OFFICERS AND TO THINK ABOUT WHO HAS, YOU KNOW, POSITIONED THEMSELVES TO BE IN A LEADERSHIP ROLE. I THINK IT IT PLAYS OUT WELL.
SO THE 18 MONTHS SEEMS A LITTLE ARBITRARY.
IF ANYTHING, I'D LIKE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TRAINING IS NEEDED FOR SOMEBODY.
IF SOMEONE COULD PASS A TEST ABOUT ROBERT'S RULES, GO FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME MORE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS NEEDED TO BE IN A POSITION IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SOME KIND OF REQUIREMENT AND NOT JUST A TIME REQUIREMENT HERE. SO THAT'S MY THOUGHT.
ELLEN. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A MINIMUM LEVEL OF SERVICE. YOU ARE MAKING DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, AND I THINK IT IS HELPFUL TO HAVE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A LITTLE BIT.
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I THOUGHT 18 MONTHS WAS KIND OF AN ODD TIME.NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT GOES WITH LEADERSHIP.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT WOULD BE OUR GENERAL POINT OF CHANGE UNLESS THERE WAS A REALLY UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE. I BELIEVE IT IS ABOUT EXPERIENCE AS OPPOSED TO JUST TRAINING.
SO I WOULD KEEP IT IN TERMS OF WHO HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN A CYCLE OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE DOES, YOU NEED TO HAVE A HAVE SOME AFFINITY FOR THE RHYTHM OF HOW THINGS ARE HOW THINGS ARE BROUGHT, WHY THINGS ARE BROUGHT, WHAT THE BOARD'S ROLE IS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND YES, YOU CAN BE TRAINED ON IT, BUT EXPERIENCE IS INVALUABLE IN GETTING THERE, I GUESS.
I'M SORRY IF I CAN JUST SPEAK TO THAT.
I, I AGREE WITH YOU, ELLEN, AND I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH 12 MONTHS.
I CAN'T IMAGINE I WOULD EVER WANT TO ELECT SOMEBODY WHO JUST GOT ELECTED ON.
SO I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HAVING SUGGESTED I DID SUGGEST THIS AND I AND I SAID TRAINING HOURS BECAUSE I DON'T CARE WHAT KIND OF. I MEAN, MAYBE WE COULD SPECIFY THAT TO TASB PROVIDED TRAINING, BUT I DON'T CARE.
MY POINT WAS YOU GET SWORN IN AND THEN WE DO OFFICER ELECTIONS.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD ONE HOUR OF TRAINING, YOU CANNOT BE AN OFFICER THAT NIGHT.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT I AGREE WITH A TIME THING AT ALL BECAUSE.
I COULD SEE THE BOARD GETTING INTO A POSITION.
NOT OUR BOARD, BUT THERE COULD BE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE OPENED YOURSELF UP FOR A AND THIS HAS HAPPENED, BY THE WAY, WE'VE I THINK IT WAS CARROLL ISD WHERE THEY NOT ONLY VOTED THE BRAND NEW TRUSTEES IN, BUT THEY DID NOT VOTE IN A SECRETARY AT ALL.
I MEAN, NOT SORRY THEY DID THE SECRETARY, BECAUSE YOU'RE REQUIRED BY LAW.
THEY DIDN'T DO A VICE PRESIDENT AT ALL.
THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. BUT I AGREE THAT WE CAN SORT OF SELF SELECT THAT, BUT I'M NOT OKAY.
I WOULDN'T EVEN I DON'T THINK I'D EVEN BE OKAY WITH 12 MONTHS, MAYBE SIX.
AND, AND YOU'VE TIED YOURSELF NOW TO NOT BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE HAD A SITUATION WHERE WE HAD AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.
SO. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER IS, BUT AND I JOINED AS SECRETARY.
AND THE VERY NEXT SWEARING IN AFTER I WAS SWORN IN.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A YEAR, BUT IT WAS A IT WAS ABOUT 18.
IT WAS ABOUT 17 OR 18 MONTHS BECAUSE IT WAS THE SWEARING IN THAT HAPPENED IN NOVEMBER.
I'LL JUST SAY THAT I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A STRONG PREFERENCE ON THE BOARD TO BOIL IT DOWN, TO SAY.
THERE'S DEFINITELY A DESIRE NOT TO HAVE A BRAND NEW BOARD MEMBER BE PRESIDENT.
I THINK THAT'S PRETTY SAFE TO SAY.
AND THE QUESTION IS CAN THE TRUSTEES SELF.
YOU SELECT THAT ON OUR OWN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE JUST THAT'S OUR PREFERENCE OR DOES IT NEED TO BE IN POLICY? I BELIEVE IT DOES NEED TO BE IN POLICY.
SOMETHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY HAPPENING.
I'M LISTENING TO THE TRAINING VERSUS TIME SERVED ON BOARD.
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I'M NOT. PERSONALLY, I DON'T ALWAYS GET THINGS FROM TRAININGS BECAUSE YOU CAN TURN ON A TRAINING.YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A MINIMUM TEN HOURS, YOU CAN JUST TURN IT ON AND NOT REALLY PAY ATTENTION.
BUT HAVING TO SIT THROUGH THESE MEETINGS GIVES YOU THE EXPERIENCE.
SO I WOULD MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF TIME SERVED.
AND THAT GIVES YOU A CYCLE OR A PERIOD OF TIME.
AND I'M NOT I'M NOT TIED TO 18 MONTHS.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE A 12 MONTH PERIOD.
I COULD DO 12, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU MAY GET YOURSELF INTO A POSITION WHERE THE SWEARING IN TOOK PLACE ON MAY 27TH, AND THE NEXT YEAR, SWEARING IN TAKES PLACE ON MAY 23RD.
AND THEN YOU HAVEN'T HAD 12 MONTHS.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I WOULD SAY SIX MONTHS OR SOMETHING, AND..
I MEAN, AUDREY, WHEN WE SAY 12 MONTHS, IF WE WERE.
SO I'M HEARING THAT WE CHANGE IT FROM 18, THAT IT'S THAT HOW ABOUT A BOARD CYCLE OR A SOMEBODY ELECTED IN THEIR FIRST IN THEIR FIRST YEAR OF SERVICE? SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I DON'T THINK I WOULD READ 12 MONTHS TO BE TO THE DAY.
IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE INTENTION OF THIS BOARD OR 12TH MONTH OF SERVICE.
SO IF WE CHANGE IT TO 12 MONTHS I THINK THAT.
OKAY. I'LL MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.
I'M FLIPPING THROUGH. I'M FRANTICALLY.
THE FAQS WE HAD WE HAD ADOPTED LAST YEAR AND THEY JUST DIDN'T GET PUBLISHED.
YEAH, THEY JUST DIDN'T GET ADDED.
SO THIS WAS THIS WAS A CLEANUP.
OKAY. AND I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ONE OF THE FAQS.
AND I AGREE WITH THAT IN PRINCIPLE.
AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, HOWEVER, NEVER IS A VERY, VERY STRONG WORD TO USE BECAUSE THERE MAY BE TIMES WHERE THE BOARD PRESIDENT REQUESTS OR ASSIGNS SOMEONE ON THE BOARD TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ON A TOPIC THAT THEY MIGHT KNOW MORE ABOUT.
ESPECIALLY AS WE GET INTO THIS COMMITTEE WORK THAT MIGHT OCCUR MORE OFTEN.
WE'VE GOTTEN TO WHERE THE BOARD PRESIDENT HAS ANSWERED EVERYTHING AS A PATTERN.
AND ALSO, I MEAN, EVERY ABOUT ONCE A YEAR, I GET A CALL FROM A JOURNALISM STUDENT WHO IS DOING A NOT FAKE NEWS, BUT THEY'RE DOING A, A, AN ARTICLE FOR A CLASS ASSIGNMENT, YOU KNOW, IS THAT TALKING TO THE MEDIA? SO, ANYWAY, I JUST THINK THAT TO CATEGORICALLY SAY NEVER IS A BIT FOREBODING, FOR PRACTICALITY OF WHAT WE MIGHT WANT FLEXIBILITY ON.
AND I THINK ABOUT AND THIS IS.
BECAUSE OF THE WORDING SAYS NEVER.
AFTER MY ELECTION, I WAS CALLED BY THE NEWS.
CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE A COMMENT? NOW, I THINK THAT WHAT I THINK THAT WHAT WE CAN CHANGE THE WORDING TO BE IS AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD TRUSTEE OR BOARD MEMBER SHOULD NEVER PROVIDE AN OFFICIAL RESPONSE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD TO THE MEDIA UNLESS DIRECTED OTHERWISE BY THE OR DIRECTED SPECIFICALLY BY THE PRESIDENT TO DO SO.
WHERE, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, IF YOU GET CALLED AFTER YOUR ELECTION, YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE MEDIA.
IF YOU GET CALLED, IF YOU GET CALLED ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, YOU CAN SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SOMETHING GOING ON, THE SEWER PIPE THEY'RE PUTTING ON YOUR MAIN STREET, BUT YOU CANNOT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD TO THE MEDIA.
LAURA CLARK. I HAVE AN OPERATIONAL OR PROCEDURAL QUESTION.
AUDREY, ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT? NO, IT'S THIS DISCUSSION ONLY.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER? TOPICS THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS HERE.
OUR AUDIENCE APPRECIATES THAT A LOT LONGER.
[Items 8.2 & 8.3]
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PACKET. THERE'S A WHAT'S PRINTED FOR YOU IS STUFF THAT I ADDED AFTER POSTING.THIS IS LARGELY BECAUSE I COULD LET DOCTOR SAILORS RESPOND TO IT.
BUT WE'VE WE HAVE YOU KNOW, THERE ARE EVERY YEAR SOME TECHNOLOGY MISUSE OF TECHNOLOGY.
AND SO WE JUST THOUGHT WE MIGHT AS WELL INCORPORATE THEM IN.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU? IT'S ATTACHMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT.
SO THE RESPONSIBLE USE GUIDELINES ARE AN EXISTING DOCUMENT.
THEY'VE JUST SIMPLY BEEN MERGED WITH THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT.
WERE THERE ANY CHANGES THIS YEAR IN THE RESPONSIBLE USE? PROTOCOLS. SO THERE ARE SOME CHANGES VERSUS LAST YEAR.
AND LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT, ARE THERE STATE REQUIRED, MANDATED THINGS THAT WE HAD TO CHANGE VERSUS THINGS THAT WE CHOSE TO CHANGE REGARDING THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT OR THE TECHNOLOGY STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT? I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO, HOW DO WE CULL THIS DOWN INTO THE ITEMS WE NEED TO DISCUSS HERE? BECAUSE IF IT'S A STATE MANDATED CHANGE, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS IT.
CORRECT. I MEAN, AND I TRIED IN MY DISCUSSION ACTION SHEET TO GIVE YOU THE HIGH LEVELS OF WHAT IT IS THAT THAT I, I MADE A LOT OF THESE CHANGES THAT ARE NOT REQUIRED.
THE ONLY THING THAT IS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IS JUST WE'VE WE HAVE A COMMISSION POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO THAT IS LANGUAGE THAT WAS CHANGED THROUGHOUT.
THAT HAS TO BE CHANGED, GIVEN THAT WE DID NOT PREVIOUSLY HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY THE ONLY MANDATORY CHANGE.
THE REST IS MY STRONG SUGGESTION.
AND AGAIN THIS IS A FIRST READING, CORRECT?YES.
OKAY. AND IT'LL BE COMING BACK TO US.
DOCTOR SAILORS, DO YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY PIECE? SURE. THE RESPONSIBLE USE GUIDELINES WE HAVE BY ELEMENTARY, BY MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL, WE TOOK THOSE TO THE TECHNOLOGY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ASKED THEM TO REVIEW FOR LANGUAGE, FOR CONSISTENCY.
OR DID THEY SEE ANY GAPS? WERE THERE ANY AREAS THAT THEY FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO BEEF UP OR INCLUDE OR TO CLARIFY? SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ADDED THIS TIME IS WE MADE CONSISTENT LANGUAGE BETWEEN THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO IF A PARAGRAPH WAS INCLUDED IN THE HIGH SCHOOL, WE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, WE ADDED INFORMATION ABOUT USING THE DISTRICT PROVIDED COMMUNICATION TOOLS.
SO REMIND AND THOSE KINDS OF EXPECTATIONS FOR STUDENTS AS WELL.
WE INCLUDED SOME VERBIAGE ABOUT CYBERBULLYING.
WE ADDED SOME INFORMATION TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT WE USE GAGGLE TO EVALUATE AND ASSESS THEIR COMMUNICATIONS AND THEIR GOOGLE DOCS, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF WHAT WE WERE DOING AND WHAT WAS GOVERNING, AND KIND OF MONITORING THOSE ACCOUNTS AND THE WHY.
THE COMMITTEE FELT STRONGLY THAT THEY NEEDED TO BE CONSISTENT, AND THAT WE NEEDED TO BEEF UP SOME OF THOSE AREAS AND BE CLEAR ABOUT OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR STUDENTS TO USE DISTRICT PROVIDED TOOLS.
HEATHER, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
CONDUCT? I CAN'T SPEAK TONIGHT.
AND IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES, THEN THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
DIANE. HEATHER, YOU PRETTY MUCH TOOK ALL MY WORDS, BUT SO THANK YOU.
THIS WAS AN INCREDIBLE UNDERTAKING AND IT'S SO MUCH STRONGER AND CLEARER.
THANK YOU. ELLEN. I HAVE A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
IS THIS OKAY? WE AREN'T GOING TO GO PAGE BY PAGE.
I DON'T WANT TO BUT ON ON PAGE 38 WHERE WE TALK ABOUT LEVEL ONE OFFENSES AND THE
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FACULTY MEMBER HAVING TO WRITE A REPORT, IS IT ACCEPTABLE THAT THAT REPORT BE DONE IN AN ELECTRONIC MEDIUM? IT WAS NOT CLEAR TO ME WHETHER THIS HAD TO BE A HARD COPY REPORT THAT WAS TURNED IN OR IF ELECTRONIC MEANS WAS ACCEPTABLE.AND I THOUGHT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A CLARIFICATION.
THAT WOULD BE. MAY BE HELPFUL.
OH, IT IS ALMOST ALWAYS DONE IN SKYWARD AS A DISCIPLINE REFERRAL.
WE HAVE SEEN THE NEED TO, I GUESS, CLARIFY.
I KNOW THE POINT IS TO SAY IT HAS TO BE DONE, AND I TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT.
BUT IF IT'S NOT IMPORTANT TO STATE THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON BYLAWS ALL DAY AND IT'S FOR NONPROFIT BOARDS, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO ELECTRONICALLY AND WHAT YOU CAN'T.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. MOVING ON TO PAGE 41.
I WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT MIGHT EVER BE ENGAGED IN HELPING TO DO A SEARCH DURING AN INVESTIGATION, OR IF IT'S ONLY A SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR WHO CAN DO THAT.
WHO CAN SEARCH LOCKERS, DESKS? I WAS GOING TO CLARIFY IF YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT SEARCHING FOR ON STUDENT DEVICES.
AND TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT NOW IS THE CAMPUS ADMINISTRATORS OR OUR CAMPUS POLICE OFFICER WILL BRING THE DEVICE OVER TO TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, WHERE WE HAVE THE SCANNING EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE THERE.
AND THEN WE WRITE UP OUR REPORT AND OUR FINDINGS, AND THEN WE GIVE THAT TO THE ADMINISTRATORS AND OFTEN THE CAMPUS POLICE TO DEAL WITH NEXT STEPS. BUT THIS PARAGRAPH SAYS CLOTHING, PERSONAL PROPERTY, ELECTRONIC DEVICE OR TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT.
SCHOOL PROPERTY USED BY THE STUDENTS, SUCH AS LOCKERS OR DESKS.
AND IT SPECIFIES THAT ONLY A SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR CAN DO THAT INVESTIGATION AND I.
THAT MAY BE STATUTORY, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY LIMITING IN TERMS OF THE RESEARCH.
I MEAN, EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT YOU DESCRIBED I WOULDN'T DESCRIBE AS SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS, I WOULD DESCRIBE THEM AS TECHNICAL EXPERTS WHO ARE HELPING WITH THAT INVESTIGATION. ANDRE, DOES THAT IMPLY THAT A SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR MUST BE PRESENT AT THE TIME OF THE SEARCH OR THE ONE DOING THE SEARCH? AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVEN HAVE OFFICER HERE.
SO ONE OF THE BIG DISTINCTIONS, WHEN YOU HAVE A FOURTH AMENDMENT ISSUE, WHEN A POLICE OFFICER IS INVOLVED IN A SEARCH AND SEIZURE VERSUS A LIKE THE STANDARD FOR WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR AN OFFICER TO DO A SEARCH IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT OF A SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR, OKAY.
AND SO AND THEY AND THEY WILL TELL YOU, I MEAN, AND SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON EDUCATING OUR CAMPUSES ON IS ADMINISTRATORS HAVE THEY GET TO OPERATE ON A REASONABLE SUSPICION WE AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT GET TO OPERATE ON A REASONABLE SUSPICION THRESHOLD, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT OFFICERS CAN BY LAW OPERATE ON.
SO IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT THAT IT IS A SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR.
SO ADMINISTRATORS HAVE GREATER LATITUDE DURING A SEARCH.
I JUST I, I JUST THOUGHT THAT THERE MIGHT BE OTHER PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF SEARCHING LIKE KRISTY JUST DESCRIBED, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T DIGGING OURSELVES INTO A PLACE WHERE IF THE WRONG PERSON DID THE DID THE INVESTIGATION AND IT REALLY MATTERS LIKE WHAT CHRISTIE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
IF IT'S DISTRICT OWNED PROPERTY, THEN YOU WE HAVE A RIGHT TO SEARCH IT.
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SOMETHING THAT IS NOT UNCOMMONLY, YOU KNOW, THE LOOK THROUGH.AND THE NEXT QUESTION IS ON PAGE 45.
I JUST HAD A HARD TIME READING THE SECOND BULLET POINT.
SO I'M POINTING IT OUT AS IT EITHER IS AWKWARD WORDING IN MY OPINION, OR A WORD IS MISSING.
BRINGING ANY ITEM, FOODS OR BEVERAGES.
IS IT AN ITEM OF FOODS OR BEVERAGES? I THINK IT SHOULD BE OF CORRECT.
YES. SO LET ME AND IT SHOULD IT BE FOOD INSTEAD, INSTEAD OF FOODS? I JUST, I MEAN, VERY SMALL POINT, BUT I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE.
THEN I REALIZED WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LOGOS.
JUST GO AHEAD. IT COULD BE AN ITEM, LIKE A WATER BOTTLE.
MAYBE IT SHOULD JUST BE A COMMA.
I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO READ THAT SENTENCE, SO I.
THANK YOU. DOCTOR ARNETT AND I HAVE A COMMON DEBATE GOING ON. MORE COMMENTS ARE GOOD.
AND AND MY LAST COMMENT, I THINK I FOUND THE ANSWER, BUT I KNOW WE'VE HAD AN INCIDENT RECENTLY WHERE THERE WAS A QUESTION ON DISCIPLINE OF STUDENTS WHO POTENTIALLY WERE ENCOURAGING BAD BEHAVIOR.
AND I THINK IT IS COVERED IN LEVEL THREE.
I THINK I DID FIND THAT BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE KNEW HOW WE WERE, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE GRAY AREA AND THOUGHT IT MIGHT BEAR SOME CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER TRUSTEE QUESTIONS? I HAD ONE THING, AND I'LL GO TO PAGE 40 ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
BUT GENERALLY I'M JUST GOING TO ASK TO PLEASE.
SEARCH THE WORD DAYS AND JUST SEE IF WE NEED CLARIFICATION ON SCHOOL DAYS VERSUS CALENDAR DAYS.
AND IN THIS CASE IT SAYS THE MINIMUM MANDATORY DAP PLACEMENTS FOR SELLING BLAH BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, DANGEROUS DRUGS OR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN ANY AMOUNT NOT PUNISHABLE AS A FELONY WILL BE 45 DAYS.
AND IF YOU CONTINUE IT, THEN IT SAYS PLACEMENT DAYS.
BUT IN A LOT OF PLACES WE TALK SCHOOL DAYS.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, DO WE MEAN CALENDAR DAYS OR SCHOOL DAYS? IT MAY BE CALENDAR DAYS IS NOT NEEDED.
MAYBE THAT'S IMPLIED, BUT IF WE NEED TO CALL OUT SCHOOL DAYS, LET'S CALL OUT SCHOOL DAYS, RIGHT? BECAUSE IN THAT CASE, THE 45 DAYS WOULD NOT INCLUDE WEEKENDS, FOR EXAMPLE.
IS THAT RIGHT? WE'RE AND I BELIEVE IT GENERALLY DOES.
SO YEAH, I MEAN I WILL I WILL LOOK INTO THAT AND CAN ADD CLARIFICATION.
TODAY'S JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
SO I HAD JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
THE FIRST ONE IS ON PAGE 35, WHERE WE'VE ADDED IN THAT CODE OF CIVILITY, AND THIS POSSIBLY COULD BE REDUNDANT, BUT WE HAVE STAFF, PARENTS, GUARDIANS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. DO WE WANT TO ADD BOARD OF TRUSTEES? WELL, I KNOW THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING, IS THAT IF IT'S REDUNDANT, BUT ALSO IT'S.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO BE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO BE ELECTED TO THE BOARD.
DO YOU WANT TO SAY? AND BOARD MEMBERS NAMED LAURA CLARK.
OKAY, WELL, SO JAMES ANSWERED THAT QUESTION FOR ME.
FORGIVE ME. THE NEXT ONE, I THINK, IS ABOUT THE VAPING.
AND SO IT'S ON PAGE 49, AND I LOOKED FOR IT AND I COULDN'T FIND EXACTLY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE NOW HAVE THIS MANDATORY DAEP FOR POSSESSING VAPE AND I, I.
I MADE A NOTE THAT IT SAYS THE LANGUAGE SAYS MAY SO.
SORRY. ON PAGE 49, ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY DOWN ON OR WITHIN 300FT OF SCHOOL PROPERTY.
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IT'S THE LAST.THE THIRD BULLET FROM THE BOTTOM.
RIGHT. BUT I THINK IT'S REFERENCING THAT THESE THESE BEHAVIORS LEADING.
SORRY. IF YOU GO UP TO 48 IT SAYS BEHAVIORS LEADING TO SUCH ACTION MAY.
ARE WE MAKING SURE. IS IT MANDATORY? IT IS MANDATORY. AND THAT'S WHAT THE LANGUAGE SAYS OKAY.
WE HAVE DEFINITIONS IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES AND I'M ARE THOSE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEFINITIONS.
YEAH. SO WE DID I DID A DEFINITION SECTION OF IT JUST EXPANDING UPON THE MOST COMMON AND FRACTIONS SO THAT PARENTS AND STUDENTS AND OUR ADMINISTRATORS, QUITE FRANKLY, DON'T HAVE TO CONSTANTLY BE REFERRING TO BOTH BOARD POLICY AND THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE EXPANDED ONE WHERE IT HAS LIKE LEVELS NEXT TO EACH LIKE THEY'RE ALPHABETICAL AND ASSAULT AND HAS THIS VERSUS MORE JUST LANGUAGE DEFINITIONS, WHICH TO JAMES'S POINT EARLIER I'LL GO IN AND ADD LIKE DAYS MEANS THIS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED, THE ONES THAT ARE QUITE LITERAL MEANING OF DEFINITIONS AND THE OTHER IS MORE EXPANDED DISCIPLINARY MEANINGS.
OKAY. AND I CAN CHANGE THE HEADINGS OF THAT.
WELL, IT ACTUALLY SAYS DEFINITIONS AND EXPLANATIONS OF STUDENT VIOLATIONS.
I WAS JUST SAYING OTHER DEFINITIONS AND WITH THE BLESS YOU WITH THE FORMATTING, IT WAS I, I THE FONT THAT OUR STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT USES IS NOT AVAILABLE ON MY MAC, AND IT'S I DON'T EVEN WANT TO THINK THROUGH HOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IT WILL.
YEAH. WELL AND I CANNOT OH GREAT.
KRISTY'S GOING TO DO IT FOR ME.
YEAH I JUST TOLD HER I KNOW PEOPLE I KNOW BUT I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET.
I'M LIKE, I NEED CONTENT BEFORE I WORRY ABOUT FONT.
AND I CHANGED IT AS MUCH AS MY EYES NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO READ IT.
CORRECT. AND AND THE WHOLE LIKE REFERENCE AS PER PAGE, LIKE I DON'T, BECAUSE IT'S WHEN IT MOVES.
THAT'S LIKE THE LAST THING YOU DO LIKE SEE THIS PAGE INTERNAL CITATIONS.
AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
THAT'S. AND I SHOULD ADD, WE'RE DOING THIS IN JUNE AS OPPOSED TO TYPICALLY IN AUGUST.
IS THAT RIGHT? SO YEAH LIKE IT WE'RE DOING IT LATE AT NIGHT IN JUNE.
ELLEN DID YOU, YOU WITHDRAW YOUR HAND.
YES, I FOUND WHERE I THINK I, I THINK I FOUND WHERE AGAIN, WHERE I FOUND THE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ADDRESS STUDENT OBSERVERS.
AND IT DOESN'T INCLUDE OBSERVING.
AND HAVING HAD OUR RECENT EXPERIENCE, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS DOESN'T EXPLAIN IT.
I JUST THINK WE NEED TO THINK HARD ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE CLEAR ON IT.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE I'M LOOKING AT? PAGE. WELL, WHAT'S LABELED AS 17? YES. AND AND IT'S THE BOTTOM BULLET.
BULLET POINT PLANNING AND OR ORGANIZING AND OR INSTIGATING AND OR PARTICIPATING IN.
OKAY. AND YOU WANT TO IN YOU'RE SUGGESTING ADDING THE WORD OBSERVING.
HAVE WE DESCRIBED? AND OF COURSE, YOU CAN'T COVER EVERY SITUATION, BUT I WOULD THINK JUST THINKING ABOUT OUR MOST RECENT SITUATION, HOW WOULD WE DESCRIBE THAT? DOES THIS COVER THAT KIND OF OR NOT? AND IF IT DOES, THEN, THEN WE'RE FINE.
BUT IT'S JUST SUCH A GRAY AREA.
AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT THE MOST RECENT SITUATION WAS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF RECORDING LIKE SO MISUSE OF TECHNOLOGY. AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT LANGUAGE IS STILL IN HERE.
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ANYTHING ELSE TRUSTEES? I SAW ONE LITTLE THING, THIS TINY.AND THEN I SEARCHED THE WHOLE DOCUMENT FOR HEMP AND IT GOT DELETED IN THE MOST.
I GUESS THAT WORDING THAT INCLUDED HEMP GOT DELETED.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A DEFINITION FOR HEMP IF IT DOESN'T EXIST IN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF.
SO JUST FYI, THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT 12 YEARS FROM NOW, SOME SMART TRUSTEE IS GOING TO FIND SOMETHING THERE AND SAY, HEY, YOU CAN DELETE THIS NOW, BUT I SHOULD INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE IT IS.
THE AMOUNT OF SUBSTANCES THAT EXIST.
YOU WANT TO ADD HEMP BACK IN? I WILL ADD IT BACK IN.
WE ARE. I'M LOOKING FOR AN ACTION CAM.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT THE TRUSTEES APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CREATION OF THE EANES ISD PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, DEFINED AS THE CORPORATION, THE CORPORATION'S ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, INITEAL BYLAWS, AND APPOINTMENT OF ITS INITEAL DIRECTORS, AND OTHER PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE SUBJECT. MOTION BY SECOND.
DO I HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? YES, KIM, I WOULD SAY WE'VE WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES.
IN CLOSED SESSION AS WELL AS IN OPEN SESSION.
AND WE'VE TAKEN COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS FROM OUR, OUR COUNCIL.
ELLEN THIS WAS, I SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT KIM JUST SAID, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE INPUT WE'VE GOTTEN AND THE EVOLUTION OF THE DOCUMENT AS IT'S GONE ALONG WHERE IT LISTS US AS DIRECTORS.
I'M A BIT CONFUSED BECAUSE IT IT INDICATES HOLDING THE SAME OFFICER POSITIONS AS ELECTED BY THE EANES ISD BOARD, AND THEN WE'RE ALL LISTED AS DIRECTORS. SO IT'S THE POSITION OF DIRECTOR AS OPPOSED.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT SUGGESTING THAT.
IT'S I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
AND IT GIVES YOU THE FLEXIBILITY OF ASSIGNING.
I MEAN, EVERYBODY IS ESSENTEALLY WORKING AS A DIRECTOR ON THE NEW BOARD ONCE IT'S CREATED, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DESIGNATE THOSE SPECIFIC OFFICER POSITIONS FOR THE THE PFC. OKAY.
IT WAS JUST THE WORDING OF HOLDING THE SAME OFFICER POSITIONS AS ELECTED.
BUT I GUESS THAT MEANS THAT IT IT FLEXES WITH WHATEVER THE BOARD DOES.
OKAY. COULD I JUST SAY SOMETHING? I WANT TO THANK THE TRUSTEES FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND DUE DILIGENCE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS.
WE'VE SOUGHT CONSIDERABLE FEEDBACK FROM NOT ONLY YOURSELVES, BUT ALSO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE CONSULTED WITH OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
WE'VE COMPARED OUR DOCUMENT TO THEIR DOCUMENTS OUR INTERNAL AND OUR EXTERNAL BOND COUNSEL.
SO A LOT OF DIFFERENT SOURCES HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED AS WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS.
AND WE'VE SAID ALL ALONG, AS WE LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR STAFF, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE A COMBINATION OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTNERS AND AVENUES, AND THIS IS SIMPLY ONE MORE TOOL NOW THAT WE HAVE TO POTENTIALLY DO SOMETHING EXCITING FOR OUR STAFF AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THIS IS NOT A COMMITMENT TO DO ANY PROJECTS.
THE. THIS CORPORATE BOARD DIRECTORS WILL MEET AND SELECT OFFICERS AND AND THAT WORK IS YET TO BE DONE, BUT IT CERTAINLY OPENS IT UP FOR THE FUTURE FOR US AND REALLY PAVES THE WAY FOR SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP OUR DISTRICT EMPLOYEES.
ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.
PLEASE MAKE NOTE OF UPCOMING MEETINGS.
[9. UPCOMING MEETINGS]
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FIRST OF ALL, THE BOARD WILL BE IN TRAINING NEXT WEEK.EITHER NEXT WEEK OR THE FOLLOWING WEEK AT OUR SUMMER LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE.
AND THEN WE WILL HAVE OUR FINAL BOARD MEETING OF SORT OF OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR ON JUNE 18TH.
THAT WILL BE A REGULAR MEETING.
AND WE WILL KICK OFF THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR ON AUGUST 13TH WITH A STUDY SESSION.
AT THIS TIME IT IS EIGHT, 9:20 AND THE BOARD STANDS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.