May 20, 2025 School Board Regular Meeting

>> THE TIME IS NOW 6:00 P.M.

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CALL TO ORDER

MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM?

>> YES, WE DO.

>> THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION,

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CLOSED SESSION

WE WILL RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION AT APPROXIMATELY 7:00 P.M. SEE YOU IN A BIT. THANK YOU.

THE TIME IS NOW 7:26,

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RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION (Approximately 7:00 p.m.)

I AM JAMES SPRADLEY, PRESIDENT OF THE EANES ISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD AND ADMINISTRATION.

WELCOME TO TONIGHT'S MEETING.

THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING IS FOR THE BOARD TO DELIBERATE AND VOTE ON MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

AS ALWAYS, WE ARE COMMITTED TO ENSURING A RESPECTFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE ENVIRONMENT, AND WE ASK THE SAME COURTESY IN RETURN.

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM OUTBURSTS OR DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR.

APPLAUSE IS ALWAYS WELCOME, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE BEING RECOGNIZED DURING THE SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT.

THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT LATER IN THE MEETING, AND I WILL PROVIDE FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS WHEN WE REACH THAT PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE ENTIRE OPEN MEETING TO LISTEN TO THE BUSINESS OF THE BOARD.

IF YOU DECIDE TO LEAVE EARLY, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU PLEASE DO SO QUIETLY SO WE DON'T DISRUPT THE CONVERSATIONS.

IF YOU NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, PLEASE, TAKE IT TO THE SIDE, OUTSIDE WOULD BE GREAT SO THAT YOU DON'T DISRUPT OR INTERRUPT THOSE AROUND YOU.

AS ALWAYS, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK ABOUT THE ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, FEEL FREE TO SEND AN EMAIL TO THE TRUSTEES AT TRUSTEES@EANESLSDS.NET, OR CONSIDER REACHING OUT DIRECTLY TO A TRUSTEE OR TRUSTEES TO MEET AND DISCUSS ITEMS FURTHER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENCE HERE TONIGHT, FOR YOUR CONTINUED INTEREST IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR SCHOOLS.

WE WILL NOW BEGIN OUR AGENDA WITH THE MISSION STATEMENT AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

UNITE, AND POWER, INSPIRE EVERY PERSON EVERY DAY.

WE UNITE OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH RESPECTFUL RELATIONSHIPS, CREATING A SENSE OF BELONGING FOR ALL.

WE EMPOWER STUDENTS PROVIDING AN EXEMPLARY EDUCATION THAT DEVELOPS CURIOSITY, CREATIVITY, AND INDIVIDUAL TALENTS.

WE INSPIRE EACH OTHER TO LEAD PURPOSEFUL LIVES OF EMPATHY, GRATITUDE, AND COMPASSION.

TONIGHT, OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE PROVIDED TO US OR LED BY INCA DUKA.

INCA HAS BEEN A STUDENT IN EANES SINCE KINDERGARTEN AT CEDAR CREEK ELEMENTARY RIGHT HERE.

SHE ALSO ATTENDED HILL COUNTRY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND IS NOW FINISHING HER FRESHMAN YEAR AT WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL.

SHE IS A STAR SCOUT IN TROOP 72.

PLEASE COME FORWARD, INCA.

>> PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

IF YOU'RE WEARING ANY NON-RELIGIOUS HEADGEAR, PLEASE REMOVE IT AND PLACE YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED.

>> WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR AGENDA WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT. DR. ARNETT.

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SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT

>> THANK YOU, MR. SPRADLEY, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, JOINING US IN PERSON, AS WELL AS WATCHING AT HOME THIS EVENING.

NORMALLY, THIS TIME OF YEAR, I WOULD HAVE A LOT OF GOOD NEWS TO REPORT.

THERE CERTAINLY ARE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS HAPPENING.

WE'RE IN THE FINAL HOURS OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THIS FRIDAY IS THE LAST DAY OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, A LOT OF EXCITEMENT ON EACH OF OUR CAMPUSES.

BUT TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO DEVIATE FROM THE NORMAL SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT, AND VERY BRIEFLY, I'M GOING TO CEDE MY TIME TO MR. CHRIS SCOTT, WHO IS OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

THE LEGISLATURE IS ALSO IN ITS 11TH HOUR, AND A LOT IS HAPPENING DOWN AT THE CAPITOL, AND WE KNOW THAT THE TRUSTEES ARE VERY INTERESTED IN HOW SOME OF THE EMERGING LEGISLATION AND BILLS MIGHT AFFECT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND SO I'VE ASKED MR. SCOTT TO COME AND IN HIS ANALYSIS, PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON HOW WE THINK SOME OF THE FUNDING PROPOSALS THAT ARE EMERGING THERE MIGHT AFFECT EANES ISD, CHRIS.

>> GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES. YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE THAT WHAT WENT OVER TO THE SENATE AS HB2 IS NOW CONSOLIDATED SENATE HOUSE BILL 2.

THE SENATE VERSION IS QUITE DIFFERENT, AND FRANKLY, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THINGS IN FLUX, AND SO THIS IS REALLY JUST AN ANALYSIS OF THE SENATE CONSOLIDATED HOUSE BILL 2.

WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW AND HOW IT MIGHT IMPACT US.

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ONE OF THEM IS IT CREATES A TEACHER INCENTIVE ALLOTMENT, AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS, WHICH WOULD ADD ABOUT $2.4 MILLION TO OUR ALLOTMENT.

THAT MONEY WOULD BE DESIGNATED TO SPECIFIC TEACHERS.

THE WAY THAT WOULD WORK IS FOR TEACHERS WHO HAVE FIVE PLUS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, THAT WOULD BE $5,500 JUST RAISE.

FOR THOSE WITH THREE OR FOUR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, THERE WOULD BE A $2,500 RAISE, AND THERE IS NO DESIGNATED RAISE FOR TEACHERS PRIOR TO THAT FINAL PART RIGHT THERE.

IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS THIS IS A COMPLETE PASS-THROUGH.

THE MONEY THAT COMES IN IS EXACTLY THE MONEY THAT GOES OUT.

THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY THAT COULD BE USED FOR OTHER PRIORITIES OR TO REDUCE OUR DEFICIT.

BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT IT WOULD DO IS IT WOULD INCREASE THE BASIC ALLOTMENT A LITTLE BY ABOUT $360,000 NET TO US.

THAT'S $55 INCREASE TO THE BASIC ALLOTMENT.

INCREASES THE SCHOOL SAFETY ALLOTMENT, ADDS ABOUT $260,000.

FYI, THAT'S ROUGHLY DOUBLE WHAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING, AND ALSO FYI, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO PAY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE ANNUAL OPERATING COST ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS $1,000,000 ROUGHLY.

BUT THAT'S NOT ALL OF THE SAFETY AND SECURITY EXPENDITURES THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE OTHER SAFETY AND SECURITY EXPENDITURES.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS HELPFUL, BUT IT DOESN'T FULLY FUND THAT REQUIREMENT.

INCREASES THE SPECIAL ED EVALUATION ALLOTMENT.

THIS IS NOT THE CHANGE TO THE SPECIAL ED ALLOTMENT THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD ABOUT.

AS A PART OF THIS CONSOLIDATED BILL, THE SENATE HAS PUT IN THERE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO A COMPLETE RE-EVALUATION OF HOW SPECIAL EDUCATION FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED, AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AN INTENSITY OF SERVICE MODEL.

NOW, THAT'S TBD.

ACTUALLY, ALL THE RUNS THAT WE'VE SEEN HAVE NOT EVEN ATTEMPTED TO MODEL WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY GUIDANCE ON THAT YET.

JUST A REALLY ROUGH IDEA, AND HERE I JUST TOOK THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY DIVIDED BY THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN THE STATE AND MULTIPLIED BY THE NUMBER WE HAVE, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT.

IT COULD BE FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF MAYBE ONE AND A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS.

BUT LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY DISTRIBUTE THAT MONEY.

WE CAN'T REALLY COUNT ON THAT, BUT JUST KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND THAT THAT'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

THAT WON'T BEGIN WITH THE '25, '26 SCHOOL YEAR.

AS THE BILL CURRENTLY STANDS, THAT WOULD START IN '26, '27.

THIS SPECIAL EDUCATION EVALUATION ALLOTMENT, AND SO WE GET AN ALLOTMENT FOR EVERY NEW KID THAT WE'RE TESTING.

ON A FAIRLY CONSISTENT BASIS, WE GET A LOT OF KIDS WHO GET REFERRED AND AND THEY GO THROUGH A BATTERY OF TESTS TO FIND OUT IF THEY QUALIFY FOR SERVICES.

I BELIEVE THE OLD NUMBER WAS LESS THAN THAT, $250, I BELIEVE, PER STUDENT, AND THIS WOULD INCREASE IT TO $100 PER EVALUATION.

THAT WOULD ADD ABOUT $240,000.

UNFORTUNATELY, ASA, WHICH IS ADDITIONAL STATE AID FOR THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WOULD BE CUT, NOT ELIMINATED ENTIRELY, BUT CUT FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY.

I BELIEVE LAST YEAR, WE GOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 300 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS FOR ASA, AND THAT WOULD BE CUT BY $260,000.

JUST FYI, THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE HAVE HAD TWO DIFFERENT PREFERRED WAYS OF REDUCING PROPERTY TAXES.

THE HOUSE HAS GENERALLY PREFERRED TIER ONE COMPRESSION, AND AS A DISTRICT, TIER ONE COMPRESSION IS OUR PREFERENCE AS WELL.

THE SENATE PREFERS INCREASING THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

WHEN YOU HAVE TIER 1 COMPRESSION, THEN THAT'S ONLY HAPPENING ON TIER 1, AND BECAUSE WE ARE COLLECTING MORE THAN THE TIER ONE ALLOTMENT, THAT COMPRESSION IS ACTUALLY LOWERING OUR RECAPTURE PAYMENT.

IT'S NOT INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT IMPACTING HOW MUCH MONEY WE COLLECT ON OTHER PARTS OF OUR TAX RATE, NAMELY THE GOLDEN PENNIES AND THE INS TAX RATE.

WHEN YOU INCREASE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, THAT ACTUALLY DECREASES THE VALUE OF YOUR TOTAL TAXABLE WEALTH IN THE DISTRICT,

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ASA WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ADDED IN PRIOR LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, THAT WAS DESIGNED TO MAKE UP FOR THE FACT THAT WE WERE LOSING THAT MONEY.

THIS IS, IN PARTICULAR, THE GOLDEN PENNIES.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS DOESN'T AFFECT ALL DISTRICTS, IT DOES AFFECT EANES ISD, AND THIS IS ELIMINATING OR AT LEAST REDUCING WHAT THAT IS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET MADE UP FOR ON THOSE PREVIOUS DECREASES IN THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

HERE'S THE NET EFFECT OF APPROXIMATELY $3.1 MILLION IN NET FUNDING INCREASE.

AGAIN, ABOUT 2.4 MILLION OF THAT IS AN INCREASE THAT'S GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO TEACHER RAISES.

THAT LEAVES ABOUT 750,000 AVAILABLE THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE APPLIED TO REDUCE OUR DEBT.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, AND AS I MENTIONED A SECOND AGO, THAT THIS DOES NOT OR ATTEMPT TO MODEL WHAT THE SPD FUNDING CHANGES MIGHT BE.

AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT, HITTING INTO 26', '27 SCHOOL YEAR.

AGAIN, PARTICULARLY FOR NEW MEMBERS, THE MONEY THAT WE GET THAT IS DEDICATED TO SPECIAL ED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IS USUALLY ABOUT $10 LESS THAN WHAT WE ACTUALLY SPEND ON SPECIAL EDUCATION.

IF WE HAVE MORE MONEY COMING IN DEDICATED TO SPECIAL ED, THAT FREES UP SOME MONEY THAT WE HAD BEEN DEDICATED FROM UNDESIGNATED FUNDS.

THIS IS A CHART THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, AND IT'S JUST A WAY OF VISUALIZING WHAT'S GOING ON.

AGAIN, TIER 1 IS THE BIGGEST PART OF OUR TAX BRACKET.

IT MAKES UP THE BIGGEST PART, BUT THAT'S ALSO WHERE RECAPTURE COMES FROM.

WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A PER STUDENT ALLOCATION FROM TIER 1, JUST ON AVERAGE, REMOVING RECAPTURE BECAUSE THAT SKEWS EVERYTHING.

THEN ON TOP OF THAT, AND SO THAT REPRESENTS ABOUT $68.55 OF OUR TOTAL TAX RATE.

THE GOLDEN PENNIES IS ANOTHER $0.08, AND THEY'RE GOLDEN BECAUSE ALL THE MONEY WE COLLECT, WE GET TO KEEP.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S $0.68, AND WE GET ROUGHLY $7,300 OUT OF THAT, AND THAT'S EIGHT PENNIES, AND WE GET MORE THAN 2,000.

THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT OUR RECAPTURE LOOKS LIKE.

EF CONTRIBUTES ABOUT 276 BUCKS PER KID, WHICH ALWAYS THANKFUL FOR THAT.

THEN OTHER REVENUE SOURCES MAKE UP ABOUT $2,000 PER STUDENT.

THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURES THAT WE HAVE, ABOUT $13,000 IN EXPENDITURES, AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALL OF THE REVENUES AND THE EXPENDITURES IS THE DEFICIT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR AND HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE '25, '26 BUDGET, ABOUT MORE THAN $100 OR $1,200 PER KID.

I CONSOLIDATED SENATE HOUSE BILL 2 WERE TO GO INTO EFFECT, YOU WOULD SEE THAT THE TIER 1 PER STUDENT ALLOTMENT INCREASES BY SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS.

INSTEAD OF $7,300, WE'RE PUSHING $7,800.

ALL THESE OTHER THINGS ON THE LEFT, THE GOLDEN PENNIES, EF, AND YOUR OTHERS UNAFFECTED BY THAT, YOU DO SEE HIGHER EXPENDITURES AND THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S THE MONEY THAT'S DEDICATED TO GOING TO THE TEACHERS, AND THEN THE REMAINDER THAT'S NOT DEDICATED TO THE TEACHERS I SHOWED IS THE DEFICIT REDUCTION, AND SO THAT BRINGS DOWN THE DEFICIT PER STUDENT TO JUST UNDER $100.

LIKE I SAID, THIS IS STILL UNDER DISCUSSION AND IS VERY LIKELY TO CHANGE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE THE MOST SALIENT PIECE OF LEGISLATION AFFECTING SCHOOL FUNDING THAT'S STILL PENDING. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU, CHRIS. QUESTIONS FROM THE TRUSTEES, KELLY.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TEACHER INCENTIVE ALLOTMENT OR THE TEACHER ALLOTMENT.

IS THAT A RAISE OR A BONUS, AND WILL WE GET THOSE FUNDS EVERY YEAR TO CONTINUE TO PAY THAT?

>> WE UNDERSTAND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD COMMIT TO LONG TERM.

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IT COULD BE CUT IN THE FUTURE, BUT THE WAY THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW IS THAT THEY DON'T INTEND TO.

>> DIANE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHRIS. I'VE BEEN PRETTY ACTIVE AND FOLLOWING A LOT OF THIS.

TO THE QUESTION THAT WAS JUST POSED.

THE WORD INCENTIVE THERE, I THINK, IS NOT THE TERM THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING USED FOR THAT ALLOTMENT, IT'S TEACHER RETENTION ALLOTMENT BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE TIA THAT WE INVOKED.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENCE.

WHEN THE BILL WAS LAID OUT, THERE WAS EXPRESSLY STATED BY CHAIRMAN OF CREIGHTON THAT THAT WOULD BE A CONTINUING ALLOTMENT GOING FORWARD.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEES, BUT THAT WAS SAID ON THE FLOOR, OR I THINK IN THE COMMITTEE HEARING. THERE'S THAT.

THEN I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S A TON OF ADVOCACY GOING ON. THERE'S NO GUARANTEES.

BUT THERE ARE HOPES THAT WE MIGHT END UP WITH SOMETHING THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE THE ORIGINAL BILL, WITH IT BEING BASIC ALLOTMENT.

IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T DONE IT, BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW.

WHERE DOES THAT TAKE OUR DEFICIT IF IT ALL BECOMES? IF ALL OF THAT TEACHER'S DEDICATED, RESTRICTED FUNDS GO INTO A BASIC ALLOTMENT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE HATE TO SAY IT, BUT THESE RAISERS ARE MORE THAN THE 2% THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

WE WOULD HAVE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY.

I THINK WE ALL NEED TO KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED, AND WE NEED TO BE REACHING OUT TO THE SENATE AND THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE STICKINESS IS.

BUT I JUST WANT TO CLEAR UP THAT TIA.

>> THANK YOU, DIANE. WE WILL GO TO KIM.

>> CHRIS, I ALSO APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS AND THE INFORMATION.

BUT I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT TO DIANE, YOU ARE VERY ACTIVE IN IT, BUT NOTHING IS SET IN STONE UNTIL THEY VOTE ON IT, UNTIL IT'S PASSED.

THAT WILL COMPROMISE THE COMMITTEE, AND IT MAY CHANGE.

I KNOW THAT I WOULD ASSUME THAT IN OUR NEXT MEETING AND WE DON'T VOTE ON A BUDGET FOR A MONTH AT THIS POINT.

BUT IN OUR NEXT MEETING, WE WILL GET UPDATES, AND I HOPE THAT WE GET UPDATES AS THINGS COME.

I'VE WATCHED THE LEGISLATURE FOR A LONG TIME ALSO, AND I KNOW THAT WHAT HAPPENS TODAY DOESN'T SAY TODAY'S VERSION AND THAT UNTIL THE BILL IS SIGNED, WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW HOW IT AFFECTS OUR BUDGET.

>> I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> KELLY.

>> SORRY, I HAD ONE MORE. THIS IS ADDRESSING THE TEACHER RETENTION ISSUES, BUT IT'S NOT A RAISE FOR ALL STAFF.

IT'S JUST VERY SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE TEACHERS.

>> CORRECT. CATHERINE.

>> HI, CHRIS, HOW ARE YOU?

>> GOOD. I'M LOOKING AT THE SLIDE HERE, THE ONE YOU'VE GOT UP, AND I'M JUST NOTICING THAT THE TIER 1 FUNDING ALLOTMENT GROWS BY ABOUT $434 PER STUDENT.

BUT THE EXPENDITURES ARE ALSO GROWING BY $214 PER STUDENT, SO UNFORTUNATELY, THE DEFICIT ISN'T CONTRACTING BY THAT AMOUNT.

WHAT IS CREATING THE EXPENDITURE?

>> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THERE.

ON THE EXPENDITURES, THE BUDGET, AS YOU SEE ON THE LEFT, HAS THE ASSUMPTION OF A 2% RAISE BUILT INTO IT, AND SO WHEN I BUILT THE ONE OVER HERE, I ADDED IN THE RAISE THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TEACHERS THAT WERE REQUIRED, AND THEN I KEPT THE 2% FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, WHICH WAS SOME MONEY THAT WAS SAVED THERE, AND SO THAT WENT INTO TO THE DEFICIT REDUCTION.

DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, CATHERINE?

>> YES. THE INCREASE IS CONTINGENT UPON THE FINANCING, OTHERWISE, WITHOUT IT YOUR PROJECTED EXPENSES PER STUDENT IS 13068?

>> YES. 13068 IS BASED ON CURRENT LAW?

>> CHRIS REAL QUICK. ONE OF THE QUESTION ON THIS SLIDE, DR. ARNETT.

THE WORDING ON THERE, IT'S REALLY DEFICIT REDUCTION.

DEBT TO ME IS INS. BOND.

>> I PUT THIS TOGETHER AT THE LAST MINUTE.

>> NO WORRIES. BUT THAT IS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING THAT RED PIECE OF THAT BAR.

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I WAS GOING TO ASK WHAT THAT 2.4 MILLION IS AS FAR AS PERCENT PER TEACHER.

>> IT'S NOT THE SAME FOR EVERY TEACHER, SO THE RAISE WILL BE THE SAME, BUT IT WILL BE A DIFFERENT PERCENT FOR EVERY TEACHER.

FOR A LOT OF TEACHERS, THE 5,500 WILL BE PROBABLY JUST UNDER 10%, 08, 9%, I'M GUESSING, LAURIE.

FOR THOSE TEACHERS, FOR THE MOST PART, IT'LL BE THE 2,500.

FOR THE YOUNGER TEACHERS, WE PROBABLY WORK OUT TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 4-5%.

>> ANY OTHER TRUSTEE QUESTION? WE WILL SPEAK TO YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU, CHRIS.

IT'S NOW TIME FOR THE OPEN FORUM PORTION OF OUR MEETING.

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OPEN FORUM

THE FIRST ONE IS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO TOPICS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, AND THE SECOND ONE IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING ON OTHER TOPICS.

WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER WHO SIGNED UP TOTAL TONIGHT, AND THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE ON AN AGENDA ITEM, SO ALIFIA DILA IS GOING TO BE HERE TO SPEAK.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME IF I MESS THAT UP.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE WATCH THE TIMER.

WHEN THE TIME IS UP, FINISH YOUR THOUGHT AND THEN STOP.

IF YOU DON'T FINISH YOUR PREPARED REMARKS, PLEASE YOU'RE WELCOME TO EMAIL YOUR FULL COMMENTS TO THE BOARD AT INSIGHTSD.NET.

REMINDER, PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD.

TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551 PROHIBITS DISRUPTIONS OF BOARD MEETING, SO WE ASK THAT REACTIONS TO COMMENTS REMAIN BRIEF AND RESPECTFUL.

IF YOU WISH TO NAME A DISTRICT EMPLOYEE IN YOUR COMPLAINT, PLEASE NOTE THAT THE BOARD MUST HEAR SUCH COMPLAINTS IN A CLOSED SESSION AS REQUIRED BY TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE BOARD CANNOT DELIBERATE OR RESPOND TO COMMENTS ON TOPICS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA PER TEXAS LAW.

THIS IS OUR TIME TO LISTEN, NOT TO ENGAGE.

CLARIFYING INFORMATION MAY BE PROVIDED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT, IF NECESSARY.

PLEASE ALSO NOTE THAT THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS BEING RECORDED AND WILL BE PUBLISHED ON THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE WITHOUT ALTERATION.

BY SPEAKING, YOU CONSENT TO THIS PUBLICATION.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND PUTTING UP WITH THAT.

LEGAL MUMBO JUMBO AFTER HERE.

WE ARE READY FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ALIFIA DILA, AND THANK YOU TO THE BOARD.

EANES ISD IS CHARTING A COURSE FOR MAJOR FINANCIAL INVESTMENTS, LIKELY THE LARGEST BOND IN THE DISTRICT'S HISTORY.

THE DECISION WE MAKE NOW WILL IMPACT NOT JUST OUR SCHOOLS, BUT OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY FOR DECADES.

TO UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY OF THESE DECISIONS, WE FIRST NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE BUDGETS WORK.

WE HAVE TWO MAIN BUDGETS.

THE M&O BUDGET PAYS FOR EVERYDAY EXPENSES, TEACHERS SALARIES, CLASS SUPPLIES, ELECTRICITY, ETC.

VOTERS APPROVE FUNDS IN THIS BUDGET THROUGH A VADER, BUT UP TO 80% OF THAT MONEY CAN BE SENT BACK TO THE STATE THROUGH RECAPTURE.

THE INS BUDGET IS FUNDED THROUGH BONDS, WHICH IS DEBT-APPROVED BY THE VOTERS AND CAN BE USED FOR ASSETS LIKE BUILDING LAND, BUSES, AND SOME TECHNOLOGY.

THESE FUNDS CANNOT BE USED FOR DAILY OPERATIONS AND ARE NOT SUBJECT TO RECAPTURE.

INVESTMENTS AND ASSETS HAVE MAJOR IMPACT ON THE OPERATING BUDGET.

WHEN WE BUILD NEW FACILITIES, WE CREATE LONG-TERM COSTS THAT DRAW FROM THE SAME POOL THAT PAYS OUR TEACHERS WHO ARE ALREADY PAID BELOW MARKET AND HAVE SUBSTANTIAL TURNOVER.

ON THE OTHER HAND, ASSETS CAN BENEFIT THE M&O BUDGET.

ASSETS LIKE CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTERS CAN GENERATE REVENUE.

SOLAR PANELS AS AN EXAMPLE, CAN REDUCE UTILITY COSTS.

I KNOW THE BOARD KNOWS THIS.

I'M JUST EDUCATING ALL THE LISTENERS HERE.

TODAY, THE BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY WILL HEAR RECOMMENDATIONS ON FUTURE FACILITIES FROM THE LONG RANGE FACILITIES PLANNING COMMITTEE.

THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED THE FACILITIES WE SHOULD BUILD FOR THE FUTURE REQUIRING ONE OR MORE BONDS.

BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM.

THE COMMITTEE WASN'T ASKED TO CONSIDER THE FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THE M&O BUDGET.

THAT'S A MAJOR RISK.

WITH A 7.8-MILLION-DOLLAR DEFICIT PROJECTION, EVEN AFTER CLOSING A SCHOOL IN JANUARY, WHEN THE DEFICIT WAS 6.3 MILLION, THIS MUST BE A PRIORITY.

IF THE RECOMMENDATIONS MOVE FORWARD AS IS, THE NEXT STEP IS TO PACKAGE A BOND BY FORMING A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

ONCE FORMED, THE COMMITTEE CAN'T CHANGE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THAT MEANS IF THIS RECOMMENDATION IS FLAWED, THE TIME TO FIX IT IS NOW BEFORE THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS FORMED.

THIS IS THE MOST EFFICIENT WINDOW TO CORRECT COURSE BECAUSE OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS TIME.

THE DISTRICT HAS TAKEN ON SUBSTANTIAL FINANCIAL RISK, LEGAL EXPOSURE FROM LITIGATION, NEW ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS, A COSTLY NEW ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING, ALL OF WHICH INCREASE M&O EXPENSES WHILE ENROLLMENT CONTINUES TO DECLINE.

IF WE DON'T ACT WITH URGENCY, WE RISK DIGGING A DEEPER HOLE, CLOSING MORE SCHOOLS WITHOUT PLANS TO ABSORB STUDENTS, CUTTING MORE TEACHERS AND LOSING FURTHER VOTER TRUST.

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WE MUST PRIORITIZE FACILITIES THAT GENERATE REVENUE THAT REDUCE COSTS OR ARE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY KNOWING THAT WE NEED TO CONSOLIDATE SCHOOLS.

EVERYTHING ELSE, THE WISH LISTS, THE NICE-TO-HAVES, THEY MUST WAIT.

LET'S GET THIS RIGHT FOR OUR KIDS, FOR OUR TEACHERS, AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU TO HAVE RESPONDING [INAUDIBLE]

>> I THINK ONE CLARIFICATION, TOO, WHICH WILL BE POINTED OUT PROBABLY LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, IS THAT, TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION IS SIMPLY A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

YES, VERY THOROUGH AND COMPREHENSIVE, BUT AT THIS POINT, ONCE THE BOARD CONSIDERS THESE, THEY WOULD THEN BE GIVEN TO A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO FURTHER REFINE, SO THERE IS OPPORTUNITY DURING THAT PROCESS FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD BE HEARD THIS EVENING TO BE FURTHER REFINED AND FOR THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THEN COME BACK TO THE BOARD, EVENTUALLY, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WITH ITS OWN VERSION OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

BUT WHAT IS PRESENTED TONIGHT WOULD NOT BE A FINAL PLAN, CERTAINLY.

THERE IS CERTAINLY OPPORTUNITY FOR A LOT OF CONTINUED EDITING AND REVISIONS OF THOSE BASED UPON COMMUNITY INPUT.

>> THANK YOU, DR. ARNETT. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR REPORTS.

[9.1 Monthly Financial Report and Budget Amendment(s) for the Period Ending...]

>> GOOD EVENING. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

AS FAR AS THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES SPEND TO DATE, IT WAS PRETTY CLOSELY ALIGNED TO WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT LAST YEAR.

WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, I ALSO LOOK AT IT BY LINE ITEM.

I JUST DON'T SHOW THAT IN THE REPORT THAT'S PROVIDED.

THEN ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT THING THAT HAPPENED IN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND WAS THERE WAS A DEFEASANCE OF THE SERIES 2015, THE PAYMENT DUE IN 2031, SO THAT WAS ABOUT 2.1 MILLION THAT WAS PAID.

THEN OUR UPDATE ON OUR TAX COLLECTIONS AS WELL.

AGAIN, LOOKING AT JUST THE PERCENTAGES THERE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT BEHIND WHERE IT WAS AT THIS POINT LAST YEAR, BUT NOT ANYTHING THAT'S WAY OUT OF LINE COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN PREVIOUS YEARS.

THEN AS FAR AS THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE HAD BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY CAMPUSES AND DEPARTMENTS.

THE NET EFFECT OF WHAT WAS SUBMITTED IS ZERO DOES NOT CHANGE THE FUND BALANCE, AND THEN THERE WAS NOT ANY ADDITIONAL BUDGET AMENDMENTS FOR THE DEBT SERVICE OR THE CHILD NUTRITION FUND.

WHEN I COME BACK IN JUNE, WE'LL HAVE THE END OF YOUR BUDGET AMENDMENTS, AND SO YOU'LL SEE BUDGET AMENDMENTS ACROSS ALL THE FUNDS AT THAT POINT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> DIANE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARIA.

I'M LOOKING AT THE PAGE IN OUR PACKET THAT'S TALKING ABOUT THE 2019 BOND.

THERE IS A BIT OF MONEY STILL LEFT THERE, LOOKS LIKE $3.85 MILLION.

I SEE THAT THE LINE THAT DEDICATES MONEY TO SAFETY AND SECURITY IS ALREADY IN A DEFICIT OF $254.

DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THAT 3.8 MILLION FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY REASONS, OR ARE WE RESTRICTED TO USING THAT IN OTHER WAYS?

>> IT CAN BE USED. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED THAT WAY.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S A SCOPE CHANGE.

>> WOULD THAT BE A BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TYPE OF DECISION?

>> THE 2019 BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE HAS SUNSETTED, SO IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU WHERE WE WANT TO SPEND THAT MONEY.

I BELIEVE NOW WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER $4 MILLION THAT'S UNALLOCATED.

HOWEVER, ABOUT ONE MILLION OF IT IS GOING TO BE USED ON THE 401 PROJECT.

BUT THERE IS AN EXCESS OF $2 MILLION THAT ARE UNALLOCATED THAT COULD BE USED FOR SOME OTHER PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> KIM AND THEN CATHERINE.

>> MARIA, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER THIS.

I HAD ASKED ABOUT OUR TAX COLLECTION AND I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE TAX COLLECTION ITSELF, BUT I'M QUESTIONING THE PROCESS.

I KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE ARE SUCH A SMALL DISTRICT THAT WE DON'T HAVE DEDICATED RESOURCES TO GO OUT AND FIND THIS 1.8% OF TAX COLLECTIONS FROM 2024 WHICH ADDS UP TO MONEY AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR ALL REVENUES.

BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT IT IS WE DO?

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I KNOW THAT WE DON'T DO THAT, AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT VERY EFFICIENT, BUT IT'S EFFECTIVE [LAUGHTER], AND SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS WE DO TO SQUEEZE THAT VERY LAST BIT OF MONEY IN TERMS OF TAX COLLECTION.

>> YOU'RE RIGHT IN THE SENSE THAT THE BUSINESS OFFICE THEMSELVES DON'T GO OUT AND REACH OUT TO PROPERTY TAX OWNERS, AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT.

BUT WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE TRAVIS COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR, AND SO THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR COLLECTING THE TAXES FOR US, AND ALSO FOLLOWING UP ON THOSE PAST DUE BALANCES, AND SO, BASED ON THE TYPE OF PROPERTY THAT IT IS, IF IT'S A HOMESTEAD PROPERTY OR IF IT'S A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THEY CAN DO PAYMENT PLANS WITH THEM RANGING ANYWHERE FROM THREE MONTHS TO 12 MONTHS.

YOU, OF COURSE, STILL HAVE INSTANCES WHERE PROPERTY TAXES ARE JUST BEING DISPUTED, YOU HAVE INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY, AND SO THEY MAY BE ON A PAYMENT PLAN, PEOPLE COMMERCIALLY THAT HAVE REACHED BANKRUPTCY.

THE TRAVIS COUNTY IS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM, AND SO THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO GO OUT AND PURSUE THOSE COLLECTIONS.

IT MAY REACH THE POINT WHERE IT GOES TO COURT.

BUT OUR OFFICE OURSELVES DID NOT DO THAT COLLECTION.

>> I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DO THAT.

I KNOW THAT THERE IS A TIGHT SHIP AND THERE'S PLENTY OF RESPONSIBILITIES.

DO YOU GET A REPORT FROM TCAD ON THESE DEFICIENT TAX?

>> AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL DEFICIENT BALANCES, I WOULD HAVE TO ASK FOR SPECIFICALLY.

BUT IT'S AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT GIVES ME ALL THE PAST YEAR DELINQUENT BALANCES THAT THEY HAVE ON THERE AND WHAT STATUS IS FOR EACH ONE OF THEM, WHETHER THEY'RE IN A PAYMENT PLAN, WHETHER THEY'RE IN BANKRUPTCY, I CAN GET THAT AT ANY POINT.

WHAT WE CAN PULL DOWN FROM THEIR SITE IS JUST COLLECTION REPORTS.

THE TOTAL NUMBERS IS WHAT WE CAN PULL ON ANY GIVEN DAY.

>> THEN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ON SOME REGULAR CADENCE OF NOT SO MUCH WHO THEY ARE, BUT HOW EFFICIENT THAT PROCESS IS? CHRIS HAD A COMMENT.

>> I'D LIKE TO ADD JUST A LITTLE BIT.

ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THE TAX COLLECTION YEAR IS YET ANOTHER CYCLE THAT DOESN'T MATCH UP WITH OUR FISCAL YEAR.

THE TAX COLLECTION CYCLE IS FROM OCTOBER 1 TO SEPTEMBER 30TH.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SEPTEMBER 30TH REPORTS FROM LAST YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'D SEE THAT BY SEPTEMBER 30TH, I THINK WE COLLECTED 99.4 SOMETHING PERCENT, AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROUGHLY A HALF PERCENT THAT'S UNCOLLECTED AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY NOT WORTH PURSUING, AND I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAVE EMPLOYED FIRMS THAT WORK IN CONCERT WITH THE LOCAL TAX COLLECTION AGENCY.

WHAT THEY WILL TYPICALLY DO IS CHARGE YOU A PERCENT OF THE ADDITIONAL STUFF THAT THEY COLLECT, AND THE NUMBER THAT I'VE HEARD FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS IS ABOUT 15%.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER LOOKING AT TO TRY TO BUMP UP AND GET THAT SQUEEZE THE LAST JUICE OUT OF THE ORANGE.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE.

>> THAT WAS OF COURSE TOO, WHEN WE PRESENT THE REPORT, I SHOW YOU EVERYTHING THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH.

WE'RE OBVIOUSLY STILL COLLECTING ON THOSE DELINQUENT BALANCES, BUT WE DON'T KEEP REPORTING ON THOSE.

WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TAX YEAR.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, KIM. CATHERINE.

>> HI, MARIA.

>> HI.

>> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

ONE OF THEM IS JUST ME CROSS WALKING YOUR VARIOUS STATEMENTS AGAINST EACH OTHER.

IF I'M LOOKING AT OUR TOTAL CASH AND INVESTMENTS ON PAGE 9, IT SHOWS WE HAVE 210,089,509.

>> BUT ON PAGE 21, ALSO DATED APRIL 30TH, SAYS WE HAVE 210,878,308.

THAT'S ABOUT AN $800,000 VARIANCE ACROSS YOUR TWO STATEMENTS.

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>> WHAT IS THE OTHER STATEMENT YOU'RE LOOKING AT?

>> THE ONE FROM MEEDER PUBLIC FUNDS.

THIS IS YOUR GRAND TOTAL OF ALL PART VALUE SECURITY [OVERLAPPING].

>> MEEDER PUBLIC FUNDS IS GOING TO PRESENT THE AMOUNTS BASED ON THE STATEMENTS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ACCOUNTING FOR ANY OUTSTANDING ITEMS LIKE OUTSTANDING CHECKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> THE ONE FOR, THEY APPEAR ON PAGE 9 TAKES INTO ACCOUNT, YOU'VE GOT THINGS ACCRUE THAT MIGHT BE PAID CHECKS AND FLIGHT, THAT TYPE OF THING.

IT'S LITERALLY A TIMING ISSUE.

IT HASN'T BEEN WITHDRAWN OUT OF THAT OVERNIGHT ACCOUNT?

>> I'M SORRY, WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING?

>> IT'S $800,000. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

>> RIGHT. IT'S GOING TO JUST BE OUT SANDY IM.

LITERALLY, IF WE HAVE CHECK RUNS THAT ARE RUN EVERY WEEK, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AND THAT'S MAINLY GOING TO BE YOUR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE.

EVERY SINGLE EVERY SINGLE MONTH, WE HAVE ABOUT $4 MILLION TO GO OUT FOR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE ALONE, AND PAYING VENDORS.

>> ARE YOU A CASH BASIS OR ACCRUAL?

>> IT'S A MIX FOR SURE.

FOR EXAMPLE, OUR SALARY PIECE OF IT, THERE'S A SALARY ACCRUAL FOR THAT.

THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT HOW MANY DAYS A TEACHER HAS WORKED AND HOW MUCH THAT TEACHER IS OWED AS OF APRIL 30TH.

BUT IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU'RE PAYING VENDORS, WE ONLY BOOK AN ACCRUAL FOR A VENDOR AT THE END OF THE YEAR, LIKE I SAID JUNE 30TH, BUT WE DID NOT DO THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

>> MAYBE THEN THOSE ARE GOING TO SHOW UP IN YOUR LIABILITIES, YOUR ACCRUED EXPENSES? I JUST NOTICED A LARGE VARIANCE AND I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS DRIVING THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMED SIGNIFICANT, NOT IN IT.

>> I CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE TO RECONCILE IT.

>> THE OTHER THING, THIS ONE ISN'T IN IT.

I'M LOOKING ON SLIDE 10 AT OUR STATEMENT OF REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES UNDER THE OFFICIAL BUDGET BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT OUR EXCESS OF REVENUES AND OTHER RESOURCES.

THAT'S THE $4.2 MILLION DEFICIT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

>> CORRECT.

>> THEN I SLIDE MY EYES OVER TO OUR UNREALIZED UNEXPENDED BUDGET AND OUR REVENUES WE'RE EXPECTING OR WERE BUDGETED, ANOTHER 7.7 MILLION DOLLAR TO COME IN.

BUT WE HAVE UNEXPENDED AND PROJECTED EXPENSES OF 30 MILLION.

THAT TELLS ME THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE ANOTHER $23 MILLION IN THE HOLE, OR ARE THERE PLANS TO NOT SPEND THOSE ITEMS, THE 30 MILLION?

>> NO.

>> I GUESS THIS IS COSTS THAT ARE BUDGETED AND WE HAVE THE CHOICE WHETHER TO SPEND THEM OR NOT, BUT IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH OF THAT IS PLANNED TO BE EXPENDED GIVEN THAT WE'RE TOWARDS THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

>> RIGHT. THE BULK OF WHAT IT'S LEFT IN THE 30 MILLION IS RECAPTURE, 15 MILLION OF THAT IS SOLELY RECAPTURE.

WE BOOK AN ACCRUAL FOR RECAPTURE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THAT IS ONE BECAUSE THAT NUMBER IS SO HUGE THAT IT WOULD REALLY SKEW THE NUMBERS IF WE DIDN'T BOOK IT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

EVERY SINGLE MONTH, WE BOOK A FRACTION OF IT.

BUT THAT OBVIOUSLY THE ACCRUAL SIDE OF IT, ON THE BALANCE SHEET, YOU HAVE THE ACCRUAL FOR THAT PIECE OF IT.

>> WELL, I GUESS THEN IF I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE LEFTOVER IN RECAPTURE, WHICH IS ALMOST 16 MILLION, AND I ONLY HAVE $7.5 MILLION COMING IN, I'M STILL UPSIDE DOWN ABOUT 8 MILLION TO ADD TO THE 4.2 DEFICIT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW BAD IT IS GOING TO LOOK WHEN WE CLOSE OUT THE BOOKS.

>> THE SPENDING IS STILL WITHIN THE BUDGET.

AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE 4.2 MILLION THAT'S BUDGETED AS THE DEFICIT.

ON THE REVENUE SIDE, YOU DON'T SEE IT COMING AND A LOT OF THIS IS ALSO, AGAIN, LIKE THE REVENUES THAT COME IN FROM THE STATE COME IN ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

WE WAIT FOR THOSE TO COME IN BEFORE WE BOOK THEM.

>> OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE DOING A ROLLING FORECAST.

I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED.

I REALIZE YOU HAVE SOME CONTROL OF YOUR EXPENDITURES, BUT RECAPTURE, WE DON'T.

WE HAVE TO PAY THAT OUT, AND RECAPTURE IS ALREADY GREATER THAN THE EXPECTED INCREMENTAL REVENUE WE'RE GOING TO GET FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, AND I'M JUST REALLY WORRIED THAT'S ANOTHER $8 MILLION IN THE HOLE ON TOP OF THE 4.2.

>> IT'S NOT, BUT IT MIGHT JUST BE THE WAY THAT THE REPORTS ARE PUT TOGETHER AND WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S ANOTHER 8 MILLION UNACCOUNTED FOR.

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>> THANK YOU, CATHERINE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? DIANE?

>> AS WE CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT THE DEFICIT, ONE THING THAT HAS STUCK OUT, AND I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT I JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

WE HAVE FUND BALANCES IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT FUNDS.

THEY VARY A GOOD BIT.

I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT IS THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND HOW MUCH OF A FUND BALANCE WE CARRY IN DIFFERENT FUNDS, AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IN THE BEGINNING BECAUSE IS THERE SOME PENNIES WE CAN PINCH AND USE ELSEWHERE IN THOSE BALANCES BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE 25% TARGET FOR OUR GENERAL FUND.

>> BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEVERAL ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

CHILD NUTRITION, COMMUNITY SERVICES AND YOUR FACILITY RENTALS ARE ALL ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

WELL, NOT CHILD NUTRITION, BUT COMMUNITY SERVICE AND FACILITY RENTALS OPERATE TO EARN MONEY FOR THE DISTRICT.

ONCE THE YEAR ENDS, WE TAKE WHATEVER THEY EARNED AT THAT YEAR AND WE MOVE IT OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND, AND THEN WE START FRESH BASICALLY IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S THE INTENTION OF THOSE FUNDS.

SPECIAL CAPITAL PROJECTS, OBVIOUSLY, THOSE ARE JUST THE CAPITAL PROJECTS CONSTRUCTION, EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE THAT'S DESIGNATED FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, THOSE ARE ESSENTIALLY INSTANCES WHERE WE'RE RECEIVING MONEY FROM ANOTHER SOURCE THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE EXPENSES, SO ALL OF OUR GRANTS WILL COME OUT OF THAT.

ANYTIME A DONATION IS RECEIVED, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN OUR BOOSTER CLUB, LIKE OUR CHAT CLUB GIVES DONATION MONEY, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S RECORDED.

AGAIN, THEY'RE PROVIDING THOSE FUNDS FOR THOSE SPECIFIC EXPENSES, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE USED FOR.

IN SOME CASES, THESE ARE RESERVED FOR THOSE SPECIFIC EXPENSES, BUT DEFINITELY FOR THE ONES THAT ARE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WE LITERALLY JUST DO A TRANSFER FROM THAT ENTERPRISE FUND BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, MARIA. YOU WILL FOLLOW UP MAYBE WITH A MEMO OR SOME NOTES ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL NOW MOVE INTO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM,

[9.2 Long-Range Facility Planning Committee recommendations]

WE'LL WELCOME HOLLY NOEL AND DR. CRAIG BOYLE.

DO YOU WANT TO DO AN INTRO? I DO WANT TO SAY THAT, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO BOTH OF YOU AND THE COMMITTEE.

I ATTENDED SEVERAL OF YOUR MEETINGS.

MAYBE WE COULD PULL THAT MICROPHONE FROM THE LECTURE THERE.

I DO WANT TO THANK YOU AND ALL OF THE COMMITTEE FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE ON THIS, A LOT OF WORK FOR, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN? MONTHS, YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF? YEAH. APPRECIATE THAT.

TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS A REPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS YET.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT MOST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE GETTING A FULL REPORT HERE.

I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE CANDIDATES ATTENDED SOME OF YOUR REPORT OUT AS WE WENT ALONG, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE BOARD IS SEEING THIS.

TONIGHT IS A PRESENTATION FROM YOU, I THINK IT WAS ALLUDED TO IN THE OPEN FORUM.

THIS IS NOT THE FINAL DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE.

THERE WILL BE PRESUMABLY, A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WILL TAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION, AND WE'LL ADD IN OTHER NEEDS FROM THE DISTRICT LIKE TECHNOLOGY REPLACEMENTS AND OTHER MAINTENANCE EXPENSES THAT WOULD BE NEEDED BEFORE A BOND WOULD BE FORMULATED.

THEN THE BOARD COULD FURTHER SHAPE THAT BOND EVEN MORE, DECIDE TO DIVIDE IT UP INTO MULTIPLE BONDS OVER PERIODS OF TIME, ETC.

THEN THIS WOULD BE PUT UP TO A VOTE BY THE COMMUNITY.

THE BOARD MAY PROPOSE A BOND AT SOME POINT TO SUPPORT THIS CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT WOULD BE UP TO THE VOTERS TO DECIDE IF THEY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE CHANGES.

TONIGHT, YOUR PRESENTATION WILL BE A GOOD OVERVIEW OF WHAT YOUR COMMITTEE HAS WORKED ON, AND TRUSTEES WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS NOT THE FINAL TIME OBVIOUSLY THAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT THIS AND GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF WHERE WILL THE FRONT DOOR BE AND HOW MANY TOTAL DOORS WILL THERE BE AND HOW MANY BOOKS CAN THE LIBRARY HOLD.

IT'S PROBABLY NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS MEETING, BUT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE LARGER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE.

WITH THAT INTRODUCTION, DR. ARNETT, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?

>> I JUST WANT TO THANK HOLLY AND CRAIG.

I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE, THE PRIVILEGE OF EXPERIENCING FIRSTHAND THEIR LEADERSHIP OF THIS COMMITTEE OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS,

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HOLLY AND CRAIG, THANK YOU.

I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT TOM OEHLER, OUR ARCHITECTURAL ADVISOR IS HERE FROM VLK, AND YOU MAY HAVE QUESTIONS OF HIM WHEN WE REACH THE Q&A PART OF THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT AND ALL OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO ARE JOINING YOU AS WELL THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU. I'LL LET YOU BEGIN.

>> THANKS FOR THAT PREFACE.

IT REALLY IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS AND HOW LONG THESE VALIANT MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY HAVE PUT INTO THIS PROCESS AND WHY THEY'VE DONE THAT.

IT REALLY WAS BUILT OUT OF A TRUE DESIRE TO SEE WHAT'S BEST FOR EANES ISD AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND HOW WE CAN BEST SEE THAT CONTINUE ON, THE SUCCESSES WE'VE WITNESSED AS PARENTS AND AS FORMER STUDENTS, AND AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

HOW CAN WE SEE THAT OVER THE NEXT 20-30 YEARS? THE LAST PROJECT THAT WAS FULL CONSTRUCTION HERE IN EANES ISD WAS IN 1993.

HOLLY WASN'T BORN YET.

I WAS WELL INTO COLLEGE, I'M SURE, BUT IN 1993 WAS OUR LAST, I GUESS, LONG TERM PLANNING THAT FINALLY CAME TO FRUITION AND WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE.

I BET IT WAS THE NEXT SEMESTER OF 1994 WHEN THOUGHTS STARTED TO POP UP AGAIN, WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT COMMITTEE AND HOW DOES THAT WORK? HERE WE ARE SOME 30 YEARS LATER WITH A LOT OF THOUGHTS AND PLANS ABOUT WHERE THAT'S GONE.

OUR COMMITTEE, LIKE I MENTIONED, IS MADE UP OF A LOT OF PARENTS OF EANES ISD KIDS, A LOT OF FORMER EANES STUDENTS.

WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HAVE NOT PICTURED HERE, TOM OEHLER, WHO HAS BEEN BOTH A COMMUNITY MEMBER, A FORMER PARENT OF EANES ISD CHILDREN, AS WELL AS AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD TO BE ABLE TO GUIDE US THROUGH THIS.

WE ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING THROUGHOUT.

LAURA WAS THERE, ESPECIALLY BEGINNING, DIANE, HEATHER, WHO PARTICIPATED.

JAMES HAS BEEN THERE QUITE OFTEN, DR. ARNETT, ALL THOSE THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE RIGHT GUIDANCE AND THE RIGHT BASE TO ASK OUR QUESTIONS, THE RIGHT PLACE TO GET US ON TRACK FOR WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT THIS COMMITTEE UNDERWENT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF A YEAR AND A HALF.

THIS COMMITTEE WAS FIRST PROPOSED BY THE BOARD AT THE END OF 2023, MORE OR LESS AND SELECTED AND CHOSEN.

OUR FIRST MEETING WAS THE END OF JANUARY, JANUARY 30TH, 2024, AND WE'LL CULMINATE WITH THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT FOR WHAT THE COMMITTEE HAS DONE AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT'LL BE BOTH PUBLISHED AND THEN SHARED AND BRIEFED TONIGHT.

THAT PROCESS STARTED WITH SOME CONVERSATIONS TOGETHER IN A CLOSED ROOM ABOUT HOW WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT IDEAS AND THE RIGHT PLANS, ABOUT WHAT WERE OUR GOALS AND WHERE WE WOULD GO.

THEN SETTING OUT WHAT WOULD THE NEXT FEW YEARS LOOK LIKE IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS TO GET THE BEST VISION THAT WE WANTED FOR EANES ISD.

PART OF THIS INCLUDED MAKING SURE THAT WE SAW, SET FOOT IN, AND DISCUSSED WITH EVERY CAMPUS IN EANES ISD.

THAT IS, WE DISCUSSED WITH THE ADMINISTRATORS WITH THE TEACHERS, WITH STUDENTS, WITH CAMPUS COMMITTEES, THAT WE ACTUALLY DID PHYSICAL WALKING TOURS THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES TO GET A FIRSTHAND IMPRESSION AND VIEW OF WHAT THEY SAW AND HOW WE CAN INTERPRET THOSE FINDINGS.

THEN AFTER TOURING, YOU'LL SEE SOME PICTURES HERE, WE SAT DOWN AT THE END OF EACH TOUR AND MET WITH SELECTED MEMBERS OF EACH CAMPUS COMMITTEE.

THE SAME WAY THAT OUR COMMITTEE WAS FORMED TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL LONG RANGE PLANNING OF WHAT OUR DISTRICT WOULD DO, EACH CAMPUS HAD ITS OWN COMMITTEE THAT ENVISIONED WHAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAPPEN WITHIN THEIR OWN CAMPUS.

THAT INPUT WAS INVALUABLE BECAUSE FOR AS MUCH AS WE COULD SEE ON A TOUR, OR AS MUCH AS WE HAVE KIDS THAT GO TO CERTAIN SCHOOLS, HAVING THOSE TEACHERS, THOSE PRINCIPALS, THOSE KIDS WHO ALSO SAT ON THE COMMITTEE GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK AND INPUT IS WHAT DROVE SOME OF OUR DISCUSSIONS AS WE MET AGAIN AS A COMMITTEE AFTER THESE TOURS.

THESE CAMPUS TOURS GAVE US INSIGHTS TO WHAT WAS WORKING WELL AT EACH CAMPUS, AND WHAT WASN'T WORKING QUITE AS WELL, WHAT CHALLENGES THEY FACED, WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE COULD POTENTIALLY ADDRESS WITH ANYTHING FROM A SIMPLE FIX OF A PAINT COLOR IN ONE ROOM OR PLASTERING A CERTAIN WALL TO POTENTIALLY MOVING A FOOTBALL FIELD A QUARTER MILE DOWN THE ROAD.

WE LOOKED AT EVERY OPTION AND REALLY THOUGHT WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR DISTRICT AND WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR KIDS.

THESE CAMPUS TOURS LED US TO SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

I WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AS A GROUNDWORK AS WE DISCUSS EACH ONE OF

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WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FOOTPRINT OF SIX SCHOOLS AND WE LOOKED AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS WHICH WERE HEAVILY CONSIDERED, WE CAME TO A CONCLUSION THAT WE FEEL AS THOUGH A FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SYSTEM WOULD BE BEST FOR OUR LONG TERM POPULATION AND ANXIETY.

THAT WOULD MAINTAIN A BALANCED FEEDER PROGRAM INTO TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND THEN AGAIN INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL.

THOSE FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH HERE IN DETAIL, WE RECOMMEND THAT IT WOULD BE A FULL RECONSTRUCTION OF CEDAR CREEK ELEMENTARY.

IN ADDITION TO A MODERNIZATION OF BRIDGE POINT, THE SAME THING FOR BARTON CREEK ELEMENTARY, AND THEN A FULL RECONSTRUCTION OF FOREST TRAIL.

WE WOULD LOOK AT EANES ELEMENTARY AS A RENOVATION PROJECT WHERE WE COULD RENOVATE THOSE CLASSROOM BUILDINGS TO BE REPURPOSED MORE TOWARDS AN EARLY CHILDHOOD CENTERED PROGRAM.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOLS, WE DID SEE THAT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND THE HIGH SCHOOL ITSELF WERE PROBABLY LACKING IN WHAT WOULD GIVE US THE BEST SUCCESS GOING FORWARD OVER THE NEXT FEW DECADES.

IT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE LOOK AT WEST RIDGE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND CONSIDER AN ADDITION AND A MODERNIZATION OF THAT CURRENT CAMPUS, A FULL RECONSTRUCTION OF THE HILL COUNTRY MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND THAT A RECONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATION OF WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL.

THIS IS AN OVERRIDING AGAIN, THOUGHT ON WHERE WE SAW THE FOOTPRINT OF CURRENT PROPERTIES, CAMPUSES, AND BUILDINGS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD IN ITS POSSESSION AND AT ITS DISPOSAL AND DECIDED ON SOME THINGS THAT WOULD PROBABLY GIVE US THE BEST NEW FOOTPRINT FOR DECADES TO COME FOR OUR DEMOGRAPHIC VIEWS, FOR OUR FINANCIAL NEEDS, AND ESPECIALLY FOR OUR KIDS AND WHAT WILL GIVE THEM THE BEST CHANCE OF SUCCESS.

ONE MORE SLIDE AND THEN IT'S YOUR TURN, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES.

>> GOOD. SOME ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

THIS ALSO DELVED A LITTLE BIT INTO THE PLANNING STAGES.

BUT WE LOOKED AT VALLEY VIEW ELEMENTARY CAMPUS, AND WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THIS AS A STAGING SITE TO HELP OUT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF CEDAR CREEK ELEMENTARY AND FOREST TRAIL.

EANES ELEMENTARY COULD BE USED AS A STAGING SITE POTENTIALLY FOR THE BARTON CREEK ELEMENTARY RENOVATION WHEN ITS TIME CAME.

A NEW CLASSROOM BUILDING WOULD NEED TO BE BUILT ON WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL'S CAMPUS TO ACCOMMODATE STUDENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY USING THE NINTH GRADE CENTER BECAUSE IN TURN, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO RELOCATE OUR HILL COUNTRY MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS TO THE NINTH GRADE CENTER TO FUNCTION AND CONTINUE THEIR SIXTH, SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE ACTIVITIES AS HILL COUNTRY MIDDLE SCHOOL IS REBUILD.

>> I'M GOING TO TAKE US OFF.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHERE YOUR FACILITIES ARE CURRENTLY AT, SINCE SOME PEOPLE LISTENING IN ARE PROBABLY NOT AS AVERSE IN ALL OF OUR FACILITIES, AND THEN I WILL DIVE INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EACH ONE.

I'M GOING TO START RIGHT HERE AT CEDAR CREEK.

CEDAR CREEK WAS BUILT IN 1978.

THE CLASSROOMS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN CURRENT TA STANDARDS, AND THEY ALSO HAVE ODD, OFTEN TRIANGULAR SHAPES, WHICH ADD TO THE UNUSABLE PORTIONS OF SOME OF THE ALREADY SMALL CLASSROOMS. MANY DO NOT HAVE WINDOWS OR HAVE MINIMAL WINDOWS OR SKYLIGHTS ONLY.

THE KITCHEN AND DINING ARE UNDERSIZED AND THE FACILITY LACKS COLLABORATION SPACE, FLEXIBLE LEARNING SPACE, AND SUFFICIENT STAFF AND STUDENT RESTROOMS. FOR ADDITIONAL CLASSROOM SPACE, THE FACILITY RELIES ON NEW REPORTABLES AND OUTDOOR LEARNING STUDIOS.

DUE TO THESE CHALLENGES, WE ARE RECOMMENDING A FULL RECONSTRUCTION OF CEDAR CREEK.

I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE AT LENGTH ABOUT CEDAR CREEK BECAUSE THIS IS A FULL RECONSTRUCTION.

THERE ARE A LOT OF DESIGN CONCEPTS IN THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL THAT I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE CERTAINLY AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, AND THEN ALSO AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL ALSO.

THE FIRST THING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IS THAT IS A THREE STORY CLASSROOM WING AT THE BOTTOM IN THE BLUE.

WE ARE MAKING AN EFFORT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO GO VERTICAL WITH OUR BUILDINGS.

THERE'S SEVERAL REASONS WHY.

THE FIRST WOULD BE THAT BY GOING VERTICAL, YOU REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SCHOOL ITSELF, WHICH ALLOWS FOR MORE PARKING AND MORE GREEN SPACE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD ACROSS THE BOARD IS IN DEMAND IN THESE SCHOOLS.

THERE'S ALSO IN A SCHOOL THAT IS VERTICAL, FEWER ENTRY POINTS, AND SO IT'S JUST DEEMED TO BE A MORE SECURE FACILITY THAN A MORE SPRAWLING BUILDING WOULD BE THAT WOULD NOT ONLY HAVE ACCESS TO THE OUTSIDE, BUT MIGHT TAKE LONGER COMMUTE TIMES IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING.

THE SECOND DESIGN CONCEPT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS A COMPLETE SEPARATION OF ACADEMIC SPACE AND EXTRACURRICULAR SPACE.

THIS IS INTENTIONAL TO INCREASE RENTALS AND GENERATE REVENUE.

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WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO RENT THE GYM FOR A BASKETBALL LEAGUE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE ACADEMIC WING OF A SCHOOL TO GET THERE.

OTHER CONSISTENT DESIGN ELEMENTS HERE, WHERE POSSIBLE, YOU'LL SEE HERE AT CEDAR CREEK, THE GYM IS ADJACENT TO PLAYGROUNDS, WHICH IS THEN ADJACENT TO FIELD SPACE, WHICH IS JUST SAFER AND ALSO MORE EFFICIENT.

THE NEW ADMINISTRATION SPACE IS NEXT TO A SECURED VESTIBULE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERY SCHOOL HAD, AND THE LIBRARY THERE IS FRONT AND CENTER TO THE FRONT OF THE SCHOOL, NOT ONLY BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT AT NIGHT FOR COMMUNITY AND RENTALS, BUT ALSO BECAUSE WE CONSIDER THEM TO BE THE SHINING STAR AND THE FOCAL POINT OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

FINALLY, YOU'LL SEE HERE AT CEDAR CREEK, THIS IS A BIG CHANGE THERE AND WHAT WE TRIED TO DO GOING FORWARD, THERE IS A TOTAL SEPARATION OF BUS PICK UP AND TRAFFIC OR DROP OFF THAT WOULD BE AT THE BOTTOM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THOSE ACADEMIC BUILDINGS VERSUS PARENT PICK AND DROP OFF AT THE FRONT.

THIS ALSO WILL ALLOW BY GETTING RID OF THE BUS LANES TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT MORE PARKING.

IT'S SAFER AND IT ALSO IS GOING TO CREATE BETTER TRAFFIC FLOW ALL AROUND.

THAT'S CEDAR CREEK.

NEXT STEP, WE HAVE BRIDGE POINT.

BRIDGE POINT IS YOUR NEWEST CAMPUS.

IT WAS BUILT IN 1993.

IT IS ALSO YOUR LARGEST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

IN GENERAL, THE BUILDING IS IN GOOD CONDITION.

IT HAS APPROPRIATELY SIZED CLASSROOMS AND SPACES, SO IT WILL NEED THE LEAST AMOUNT OF WORK TO BRING IT UP TO THE DISTRICT'S EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS.

PRIMARY NEEDS ARE COLLABORATION AND PLANNING SPACE, FLEXIBLE LEARNING SPACE, ADDITIONAL TEACHER WORK ROOMS. WE ARE RECOMMENDING A RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING CLASSROOM WITH AN ADDITION OF A TWO STORY CLASSROOM WING.

WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS BRIDGE POINT HAS A TWO STORY CLASSROOM SYSTEM.

ADDING AN ADDITION AND THEN RENOVATING THE EXISTING CLASSROOM SPACES, YOU WOULD HAVE THREE GRADE LEVELS ON EACH FLOOR.

EACH GRADE LEVEL WOULD HAVE SIX CLASSROOMS WITH ADDITIONAL FLEX CLASSROOMS. THE ORANGE THAT YOU SEE WOULD BE TEACHER WORK ROOMS. THE GREEN IS COLLABORATION SPACE BETWEEN THE CLASSROOMS, AND THEN IT'S HARD TO TELL BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS BLUE.

BUT THERE ON THE LEVEL WHERE THERE IS THE EXPANDED ART AND MUSIC CLASSROOMS, THERE WOULD BE ONE FLEXIBLE CLASSROOM SPACE THAT COULD BE USED FOR INTERVENTION AND SPED PROGRAMS AS WELL AS OTHER LEVEL WHERE THERE AREN'T THOSE ART CLASSROOMS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO EXTRA FLEX CLASSROOMS. IT'S A TOTAL, OH MY GOSH, I DID THE MATH EARLIER.

IT'S A TOTAL OF SIX CLASSROOMS PER GRADE WITH THREE GRADES, AND THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL OF THREE EXTRA CLASSROOMS THERE FOR INTERVENTION.

THEN ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S A MINOR EXPANSION, YOU CAN SEE TO WHERE THE EXISTING MUSIC ROOMS ARE AS WELL AS ALSO MINOR RENOVATION AT THE ADMINISTRATION WITH A MORE SECURE ENTRY VEST AND SOME MODERNIZATIONS AT THE LIBRARY.

NEXT STEP, WE HAVE BARTON CREEK.

BARTON CREEK WAS BUILT IN 1991.

THE CLASSROOMS ARE DIVIDED INTO THREE WINGS.

THE 100 AND 300 WING ARE NICELY SIZED.

BUT THE 200 WING, FOR WHATEVER REASON, PERHAPS IT IS BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT TO BE THE CDC ARE EXTREMELY SMALL TO THE POINT OF NOT REALLY BEING USABLE AS ELEMENTARY CLASSROOMS. THE ART AND MUSIC ROOMS ARE UNDERSIZED AND LACK STORAGE.

THE DINING AND ADMINISTRATION ARE ALSO UNDERSIZED, AND THEY LACK DEDICATED COLLABORATION SPACE, FLEXIBLE TEACHING SPACE, TEACHER WORK, AND PLANNING ROOMS. THE PLAYGROUND AT BARTON CREEK IS IN THE BACK AND REQUIRES STUDENTS TO CROSS AN ACTIVE PARKING LOT, WHICH IS NOT IDEAL.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING A COMBINATION OF RENOVATING THE EXISTING CAMPUS WITH THE ADDITION OF A NEW THREE STORY CLASSROOM WING, A NEW GYMNASIUM, AND A NEW LIBRARY.

THIS WOULD ALSO REORIENT THE SCHOOL FOR INCREASED STREET PRESSES AND REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT TO ALLOW FOR MORE PARKING AND THE SEPARATION OF BUS AND CAR TRAFFIC.

THERE IS ALSO, YOU'LL SEE A NEW PLAY AREA, WHICH WOULD BE SECURED AND OFF OF THE CLASSROOM WING INSTEAD OF BEING BEHIND THE SCHOOL.

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WE'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD SLIDE HERE. HERE WE GO.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS WOULD BE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR BARTON CREEK.

THE CROSS HATCHED SECTION IS EXISTING.

A NEW GYM WOULD BE ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING GYM, WHICH THEN ALLOWS THE STAGE, THE MUSIC ROOMS, AND THE DINING TO EXPAND INTO THAT SPACE AS WELL AS THE KITCHEN.

THE CDC WOULD HAVE ITS OWN ENTRANCE AND IT'S TAKING OVER THE EXISTING ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, AND THEN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE THE GYM THAT THREE STORY CLASSROOM WING AS WELL AS A NEW LIBRARY.

YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THESE THREE STORY BUILDINGS.

IT WOULD BE TWO GRADE LEVELS IN PODS ON EACH FLOOR.

THAT PEACHY COLOR BETWEEN THE CLASSROOMS WOULD BE BUILT IN INTENTIONAL COLLABORATION AND COMMUNITY SPACE BETWEEN THOSE GRADE LEVEL PODS.

THERE'S THE DARKER BLUES WOULD BE A FLEXED CLASSROOM, AND THEN THERE'D BE TEACHER WORK ROOMS ON EVERY LEVEL.

I THINK THERE'S ALSO EXTERIOR SPACE ON THOSE LEVELS, LIKE OUTSIDE SPACE THAT WOULD BE BUILT IN FOR THE CLASSROOMS TO USE AS OUTDOOR CLASSROOM SPACE.

FOREST TRAIL. FOREST TRAIL WAS BUILT IN 1985.

THE CURRENT LAYOUT IS DRIVEN BY AN INCREDIBLY STEEP SITE AND CREATES ORGANIZATIONAL CHALLENGES, INCLUDING A FRONT DOORWAY ORIENTED AWAY FROM THE MAJOR DRIVE, A STEEP AND CHALLENGING ENTRANCE, PLAYGROUNDS IN THE FRONT OF THE SCHOOL THAT PROVIDE LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES AS WELL AS SECURITY CONCERNS.

THE LIBRARY IS BURIED IN THE CORE OF THE BUILDING MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO ACCESS FOR COMMUNITY, THE GYM AND THE DINING ARE ALSO QUITE REMOTE.

DINING AND ADMINISTRATION ARE ALSO UNDERSIZED.

CLASSROOMS ARE SMALLER THAN CURRENT TEA STANDARDS, THOUGH NOT AS SMALL AS THEY ARE HERE AT CEDAR CREEK.

THEY LACK COLLABORATION, FLEXIBLE LEARNING SPACE AND SUFFICIENT RESTROOMS. OUR RECOMMENDATION OF A COMPLETE REBUILD WOULD REORIENT THIS SCHOOL.

IT LEVELS OUT THE STEEP GRADES AND MOVES THE PLAY AREAS BEHIND THE SCHOOL FOR INCREASED SECURITY.

THE DESIGN AND LAYOUT HERE IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST SAW AT CEDAR CREEK.

FOR FOREST TRAIL, IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT WE DID DISCUSS FOUR DIFFERENT OPTIONS, INCLUDING REBUILDING ON THE VALLEY VIEW SITE, ALSO RENOVATING FOREST TRAIL.

THE VALLEY VIEW SITE WAS DISMISSED BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S AS CHALLENGED AS THE SITE AS FAR AS TERRAIN.

THIS WAS JUST DEEMED A LITTLE BIT MORE SET BACK FROM 360 AND A LITTLE BIT MORE SECURE.

RENOVATING THIS WAS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY COST PROHIBITIVE AS WELL BECAUSE OF JUST HOW THE SCHOOL WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT.

WHILE IT IS SLIGHTLY MORE EXPENSIVE TO START OVER, IT WAS DEEMED WORTH IT TO ACTUALLY TRULY ADDRESS ALL THE CHALLENGES THAT THE SCHOOL HAS CURRENTLY, AS FAR AS THE LAYOUT OF IT.

WE HAVE EANES ELEMENTARY AS NEXT.

THE CAMPUS OF EANES ELEMENTARY DATES BACK TO 1905.

CURRENT CLASSROOM BUILDINGS ARE FROM THE '60S WITH THE ADDITION OF OUTLYING BUILDINGS IN THE '80S.

THE CLASSROOMS ARE IN FOUR CLASSROOM PODS THAT ALL HAVE OUTSIDE ACCESS NATURAL LIGHT, ARE WELL SIZED AND HAVE SHARED TOILETS AND STORAGE.

HOWEVER, THEY ARE COMPLETELY DISCONNECTED FROM OUTLINE BUILDINGS, WHICH MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO ACCESS DUE TO THE STEEP TERRAIN AS WELL AS ANY INCLEMENT WEATHER.

DUE TO THE CHALLENGING NATURE OF THE SITE, SPECIFICALLY THE TERRAIN, AS WELL AS ITS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO BEE CAVE ROAD, THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE CLASSROOM PODS BE REPURPOSED INTO A CENTRAL HOME FOR THE DISTRICT'S CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTER.

THE CLASSROOM PODS ARE A GOOD SIZE FOR CHILDREN OF THIS AGE.

THEY HAVE RESTROOMS AND CHILDREN OF THIS AGE DO NOT NECESSARILY NEED THE DINING AND THE GYM AND THE OTHER OUTLYING BUILDINGS.

WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT THE CURRENT LIBRARY BE TURNED INTO AN INDOOR PLAY AREA THAT THE CDC COULD USE, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT BARTON CREEK KEEP ITS CURRENT SATELLITE CDC FOR STAFF AND NEIGHBORS OF WEST RIDGE AND BARTON CREEK, WHICH WE JUST SAW, EVENTUALLY THIS WOULD BECOME THE HUB FOR THE CDC REPLACING THE PORTABLES THAT ARE AT VALLEY VIEW AND FOREST TRAIL.

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IT WOULD ALLOW IT TO GROW AND EXPAND ITS PROGRAMMING AND CURRICULUM TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE STAFF AND RESIDENTS OF THE DISTRICT WHILE ALSO GENERATING REVENUE.

ANOTHER ONE OF THE GOALS OF THIS COMMITTEE WAS TO PRESERVE OR CREATE AS MUCH FIELD SPACE AS POSSIBLE.

WE IDENTIFIED THAT AS A NEED IN THIS DISTRICT, AND SO THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL PLAYFIELD SPACE THERE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR COMMUNITY USE AND RENTALS.

THE FURTHER RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THE DISTRICT WORK WITH THE CITY OF WESTLAKE HILLS OR ANOTHER ENTITY TO REPURPOSE THE OUTLYING BUILDINGS FOR COMMUNITY USE AND RENTALS, WHILE ALSO BEING ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE THE HISTORY CENTER, INCLUDING THE ORIGINAL CHURCH AND SCHOOLHOUSE THAT'S ON THAT PROPERTY.

WE'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE WALKING TRAILS INSTALLED THAT CONNECT WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL TO THE NEW CDC CAMPUS, WHICH WOULD GIVE WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE CONTINUING EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES IN EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

I'M HANDING IT BACK TO CRAIG.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT? I LOVE THE COMMUNITY THOUGHTS, JUST GOING OFF THE LAST SLIDE BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

EANES ELEMENTARY IN PARTICULAR, IN THE THOUGHT OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY AT LARGE IS INVOLVED WITH SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS AND SOME OF THESE DECISIONS GOING FORWARD, THE DISTRICT IS CHANGING.

NOT EVERYONE THAT MOVES TO THE DISTRICT NOW HAS YOUNG KIDS OR ARE COMPLETELY INVESTED IN WHAT HAPPENS AT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS OPPOSED TO WHAT HAPPENS FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

WHEN SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS HAPPENED, WE DISCUSSED VERY OPENLY WITH SOME BACK AND FORTH ABOUT, WHAT CAN BE PURPOSED FOR COMMUNITY USE? WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT OUR COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE? THE HEAVY FOCUS WAS ON EDUCATION AND THE KIDS.

BUT THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN STILL MAKE SURE THAT THE EANES ISD SERVES A LARGER POPULATION, NOT JUST STUDENTS.

I THINK THAT THIS PUSHES FORWARD SOME OF THAT MISSION JUST AS SHOWN WITH EANES ELEMENTARY AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, HILL COUNTRY IS 50-YEARS-OLD THIS LAST YEAR.

WEST RIDGE WILL CELEBRATE ITS 40TH BIRTHDAY NEXT YEAR, AND THEY'RE VASTLY DIFFERENT IN THE WAY THAT THEY BOTH CAN ACCOMMODATE THEIR CURRENT STUDENT BODY, THE OPPORTUNITIES THEY PROVIDE FOR A COMMUNITY, THE OPPORTUNITIES THEY PROVIDE FOR EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES.

WITH THOSE DIFFERENCES, OUR COMMITTEE ADDRESSED WHAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAPPEN AT EACH ONE OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

WITH A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THE WAY WE LOOK AT MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN GENERAL.

WE SAW MIDDLE SCHOOLS AS A COMMITTEE AS THEY CURRENTLY SIT AS LARGE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

THAT IS THAT THEY FIT FOR PURPOSE, WHAT A NATURAL PROGRESSION WOULD BE OF A FIFTH GRADER OR A SIXTH GRADER INTO NEW TYPES OF CLASSROOMS, NEW EXPERIENCES, INSTEAD OF A PRE HIGH SCHOOL EXPERIENCE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN A MINUTE, BUT MAYBE OUR HIGH SCHOOL SERVES MORE AS A PRE COLLEGE EXPERIENCE IN THE FUTURE.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT THESE DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS, WE ADDRESS CERTAIN THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, ATHLETIC GYMS. THE LENGTH OF THE BASKETBALL COURT OR MIDDLE SCHOOLS IS CURRENTLY 84 FEET.

OUR STANDARDS SHOULD BE 94 FEET.

WE'VE BUILT THAT FOR KIDS THAT WERE MAYBE A LITTLE OLDER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS VERSUS PRE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR PERFORMING ART CENTERS, WE STILL HAVE STAGES SET UP WITH A CAFETERIA OVERFLOW TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE AN ORCHESTRA, AN ADVANCED BAND CLASS, A CHOIR CLASS, A THEATER CLASS.

WE HAVE LOOKED AT ADDING 450 SEATED DEDICATED AUDITORIUMS FOR OUR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO USE AND FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO USE.

WEST RIDGE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

LET ME WALK THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE ON SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS WHEN WE LOOKED AT WEST RIDGE.

AGAIN, WEST RIDGE WOULD BE A RECONSTRUCTION AND A MODERNIZATION OF A CAMPUS.

THE OVERVIEW OF THE CAMPUS HERE STARTS A LITTLE BIT WITH, SORRY, I'M LOOKING HERE, WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE CAMPUS AROUND THE GYMNASIUM AND THE ATHLETIC AND THE PE AREAS.

THOSE THAT HAVE VISITED WEST RIDGE WILL NOTE THAT THOSE ARE THE AREAS JUST WHERE THE PINK BOXES CURRENTLY SIT ON THIS PICTURE, MORE OR LESS AND EXPAND OUT TO THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND OTHER PLACES.

I'M TRYING TO ORIENT MYSELF. THAT'S RIGHT, PINK BOXES.

>> RIGHTSIZING THOSE SPACES AND GIVING IT THE APPROPRIATE SUPPORT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE FIRST PRIORITY TO THAT.

WITH THAT BEING DONE, NOW GIVES US A CHANCE TO RELOCATE THE LIBRARY SPACE AS WELL.

WE CAN RECONFIGURE THAT CURRENT LIBRARY SPACE FOR ROBOTICS PROGRAMS. WE CAN LOOK AT IT FOR AN ENGINEERING SPACE.

IT GIVES IMPROVED EXPOSURE.

IT MAKES IT SO THAT THIS MOTTO OF PUTTING LEARNING ON DISPLAY REALLY CAN HAPPEN AT OUR CAMPUSES WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK IN AND SEE A BIG,

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THE EXISTING DINING ROOM SPACE AT WEST RIDGE MIDDLE SCHOOL WOULD BE CONVERTED INTO A NEW BAND IN ORCHESTRA SPACES.

IT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THAT HIGH VOLUME OF THE DINING SPACE AND ALLOWS THE DINING SPACE TO BE MOVED OVER TO WHERE THE CURRENT BAND IN ORCHESTRA SPACE IS.

THE STAGE THAT CURRENTLY SITS AT WEST RIDGE MIDDLE SCHOOL WOULD BE OPENED UP COMPLETELY TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE NOW.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT WEST RIDGE MIDDLE SCHOOL STAGE, HOPEFULLY MOST OF US HAVE BEEN THERE HAVE SEEN IT, IMAGINE THAT BEING THE BACK OF THE STAGE NOW AND THE FRONT OF STAGE BEING ON THE OTHER SIDE TO GIVE A DIFFERENT AREA FOR THE BAND ORCHESTRA CHOIR PROGRAMS TO BE ABLE TO USE.

THE SCIENCE CLASSROOMS AND PREP CLASSROOMS WOULD BE EXPANDED OUT TO BE AN APPROPRIATE SIZE TO MEET TEA REQUIREMENTS NOW.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD TO ADDRESS THROUGHOUT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, AND THE HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL, IS WE CURRENTLY FALL GROSSLY BEHIND TEA REQUIREMENTS AT SEVERAL OF OUR CAMPUSES.

I WANT TO SAY ALL OF OUR CANVASSES, BUT DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT, TOM CAN CORRECT IT LATER.

THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE IMPORTANT FOR US TO STAY CURRENT, TO STAY SAFE, AND TO GIVE OUR KIDS THE BEST EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN.

AS WE ADDRESS SOME OF THESE THINGS, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL AND THEY GIVE US A CHANCE TO REALLY SHINE WHAT IS LEARNING ON DISPLAY, IT ALSO INSTEAD OF BEING A NICE TO HAVE, IS A MUST HAVE IN A LOT OF OUR SPACES.

THE CLASSROOM AREAS WILL BE BUILT WITH PURPOSE FOR LARGER COLLABORATIONS, LARGER LEARNING SPACES WHERE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CLASSES COULD COME IN AND MEET TOGETHER.

INDIVIDUAL LEARNING SPACES AS WELL WITHIN A LIBRARY WITHIN OTHER SPOTS FOR BREAKOUT STUDY GROUPS, CHANCES FOR STUDENTS TO BOOK AND SET ASIDE AN AREA TO STUDY IN A MORE PRIVATE SETTING AROUND CAMPUS.

THE ADJACENT COLLABORATION SPACES WOULD ALSO BE BUILT FOR TEACHER PURPOSES.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE SAW OVER AND OVER AT EACH CAMPUS TOUR.

WE WOULD TOUR THE CAMPUS WITH TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS AND ASK THEM WHAT WAS NEEDED AT THE CAMPUS.

AFTER TWO HOURS OF TELLING US EXHAUSTIVELY WHAT THE STUDENTS NEED, WE WOULD STOP AND PAUSE AND SAY, BUT WHAT DO YOU NEED? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE? A CREDIT TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR STAFF AND TEACHERS IS, WELL, WE DIDN'T REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT YET.

IT HONESTLY WAS THE NARRATIVE THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST THE KIDS NEED TO HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO HAVE.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT US. LET'S MAKE SOME SACRIFICES SO THAT'S CASE.

WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. WE THINK WITH RENOVATION OF SOME OF THESE SPACES, WE CAN STILL INCLUDE COLLABORATIVE TEACHER SPACES WHERE THEY CAN COME TOGETHER AND PLAN LESSONS, DISCUSS SOME OF THE NEEDS AT THE SCHOOL AND HAVE DEDICATED AREAS WHERE THEY CAN GET THEIR OWN WORK DONE IF NEEDED.

SOME HIGHLIGHTS JUST OF THE WEST RIDGE CAMPUS WOULD BE THAT NEW COMPETITION GYM, NEW ATHLETIC AND PE DRESSING AREAS, ENHANCED SPED SPACES, TEACHER WORK ROOMS, A NEW LIBRARY WITH NATURAL DAYLIGHT, LARGE GROUP INSTRUCTIONAL SPACES.

THE EXISTING FIELD YOU'LL SEE WILL BE MOVED TO THE NORTH EAST AND GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP THAT SPACE FOR MORE COMMUNITY EVENTS.

THAT IS THAT WITH THIS DESIGN, WE ALSO HAVE SET ASIDE AN AREA WHERE WE CAN BUILD COMMUNITY BATHROOMS, COMMUNITY CONCESSION STANDS, ATHLETIC EVENTS AND OTHER EVENTS COULD BE HELD ON THAT SPACE FOR REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITIES AND TO GIVE US A BETTER SHOT AT HOSTING DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVENTS THAT WEST RIDGE MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO IN THE PAST.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT WITH THE NEW AND IMPROVED 450 SEAT AUDITORIUM IN EACH OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, IT WILL TAKE A BIT OF THE BURDEN OFF THE HIGH SCHOOL WHO CURRENTLY HOSTS SEVERAL OF THE ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL EVENTS IN THE PACK, AND THEN DOES NOT PROVIDE A REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITY FOR EACH ONE OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, WHICH THESE NEW SPACES POTENTIALLY COULD DO.

THEN OF COURSE, LAST ONE HERE, YOU CAN'T SEE IT SO MUCH IS INCREASED SURFACE PARKING ACROSS THE BOARD.

WEST RIDGE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE KNOW THAT OFTENTIMES THE TEACHERS HAVE TO DRIVE AROUND BACK BEHIND THE SCHOOL IN ORDER TO PARK.

THIS WOULD ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM BY ADDING SEVERAL SURFACE PARKING SPACES.

>> I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH HILL COUNTRY MIDDLE SCHOOL.

AS CRAIG SAID, SHE IS 50 YEARS OLD.

THIS IS A SINGLE-STOREY CAMPUS, WHICH HAS LONG TRAVEL TIMES, MINIMAL PARKING, CONGESTION DUE TO LIMITED SITE AREA.

THE CLASSROOMS ARE UNDERSIZED, EVEN INCLUDING THE NEWISH SCIENCE LABS.

MANY DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO NATURAL LIGHT.

THE CORRIDORS ARE CONGESTED, DINING IS BURIED IN THE BUILDING WITHOUT NATURAL LIGHT OR RENTAL ACCESSIBILITY.

GYMS, ATHLETIC SPACES, FINE ARTS ARE ALL UNDERSIZED FOR A MODERN SCHOOL.

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HILL COUNTRY ALSO, NO SPED SPACES, NO COLLABORATION SPACES OR FLEXIBLE LEARNING.

OUR RECOMMENDATION IS A TOTAL REPLACEMENT OF HILL COUNTRY MIDDLE SCHOOL.

MUCH LIKE WE WENT THROUGH EARLIER, YOU SEE A THREE-STOREY CLASSROOM WING.

HERE, THAT CLASSROOM WING WOULD HAVE TEACHER PARKING BELOW.

AGAIN, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE SAID EARLIER OF THE BENEFITS OF GOING VERTICAL AND REDUCING YOUR FOOTPRINT, FOR HILL COUNTRY, IN PARTICULAR, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A DOTTED RED LINE, THAT IS WHERE THE CURRENT BUILDING SITS.

THIS WOULD ALLOW THIS BUILDING AT ITS CLOSEST POINTS TO BE PULLED BACK AN ADDITIONAL 100 FEET FROM WALSH TARLTON.

THE ORANGE ADMINISTRATED BUILDING THERE IS THE FIRST FLOOR, IT DOESN'T SAY IT ON THE SLIDE, BUT THE SECOND FLOOR OF THAT WOULD BE THE LIBRARY, WHICH WE'RE HOPING WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE MAYBE OF SOME GOOD VIEWS AS WELL AS JUST HAVING A LOT OF LIGHT AND HIGH CEILINGS.

THE DINING WOULD BE CONNECTED WITH WALK OUT FIELD SPACE SO THAT THE KIDS COULD HAVE OUTDOOR ACCESS WALL DOING LUNCH AND DOING THEIR DINING ACTIVITIES, AND THE GYMNASIUM, THE SECOND LEVEL WOULD HAVE PROPER WEIGHT ROOMS DRESSING AND SUPPORT UNDERNEATH.

THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE SEPARATE DROP-OFF AND PICK-UP FOR BUSES, THE 450 SEAT PERFORMING ART CENTER AS WELL AS THERE WOULD BE RESTROOMS AND CONCESSIONS.

AGAIN, AS CRAIG SAID, THE GOAL OF THESE MIDDLE SCHOOLS WOULD BE THAT THEY HAVE THE FACILITIES TO SUPPORT ALL OF THEIR CURRENT PROGRAMMING.

WE HEARD PARTICULARLY AT WEST RIDGE AND THEN ALSO AT HILL COUNTRY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HOST HOME FOOTBALL GAMES, BUT THEY CAN'T DO IT NOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE BLEACHER SEATING, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CONCESSIONS OR THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HOST AN EIGHTH GRADE ORCHESTRA CONCERT, NOT HAVE TO RELY ON THE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT TO HAVE THEIR OWN PERFORMING ART CENTER WHERE THESE KIDS THAT HAVE WORKED SO HARD AND PRACTICE THE FINE ARTS ARE NOT THEN BEING JUGGLING A VOLLEYBALL PRACTICE IN A GYM OR TRYING TO SQUEEZE INTO A CAFETERIA.

THE OTHER SLIDE I WANT TO SHOW YOU FOR HILL COUNTRY IS WE HAD TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT MOVING THEM TO THE NINTH GRADE CENTER.

WE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT HILL COUNTRY AND WHAT TO DO WITH THEM, AND WE LOOKED AT MULTIPLE OPTIONS, INCLUDING KEEPING SIXTH GRADE AT THEIR HOME ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, SPLITTING THEM UP.

BUT AFTER A LOT OF CONVERSATION, WE AGREED THAT THE BEST STEP FORWARD IS TO KEEP THEM TOGETHER.

FOR THESE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, ESPECIALLY FOR HILL COUNTRY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM BEING OUT OF HILL COUNTRY FOR POTENTIALLY TWO YEARS, SO WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT WAS A SCENARIO WHERE A SIXTH GRADER ENDS UP GOING ONE PLACE AND THEN SOMEWHERE ELSE A SEVENTH GRADE AND THEN THIRD PLACE AS AN EIGHTH GRADER.

ALSO THERE'S SO MUCH PROGRAMMING AND TEACHERS THAT OVERLAP DIFFERENT GRADES AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THAT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP THEM ALL TOGETHER.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINE A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT EVEN THOUGH HILL COUNTRY IS DEEMED THE MORE URGENT IN NEED OF RENOVATION, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKSEAT ON THE TIMELINE SIMPLY BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET THE HIGH SCHOOL CLASSROOM WING BUILT FIRST THAT WILL THEN ALLOW US TO VACATE THE NINTH GRADE CENTER.

YOU CAN SEE IT HERE.

THIS WOULD BE THE ENTIRETY OF THE NINTH GRADE CENTER THAT HILL COUNTRY WOULD MOVE INTO.

WITH THIS, THERE'S 49 CLASSROOMS AND SIX SCIENCE LABS.

HILL COUNTRY CURRENTLY HAS 44 CLASSROOMS AND SEVEN SCIENCE LABS, SO IT'S EXTREMELY COMPARABLE.

THERE IS ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE NINTH GRADE CENTER, A GYM, FINE ART SPACE AND CAFETERIA AND DINING THAT WOULD BE SOLELY USED FOR HILL COUNTRY MIDDLE SCHOOL AS WELL AS A SEPARATE PICK-UP AND DROP-OFF AREA.

WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THE FULL FUNCTIONING OF HILL COUNTRY MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THIS TEMPORARY CENTER FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS, AND IN SOME CASES, WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT IT'S ACTUALLY A BETTER FACILITY THAN HILL COUNTRY IS NOW AND SO THAT MOVING OUT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT UNTIL THEY MOVE BACK INTO THEIR FULLY REBUILD SCHOOL.

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>> BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL HERE, ONE THING I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE SIZE OF THESE CAMPUSES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, HOW MANY STUDENTS IT WOULD ACCOMMODATE AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS GOING TO FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, TWO MIDDLE AND A HIGH SCHOOL.

CURRENTLY, OUR PROJECTION OF WHAT WE WOULD LOOK LIKE WITHIN THE NEXT 10 YEARS AS WE THINK THAT FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WOULD BE AROUND 2,800 STUDENTS, 02,848, I THINK WAS WHERE THE PROJECTIONS LANDED.

FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WOULD BE BUILT TO HOUSE JUST OVER 850 STUDENTS WITH THE INTENT OF GOING TO 750 AT THEIR MAX.

IT WOULD BE MORE OR LESS TO ACCOMMODATE ABOUT THAT 750 NUMBER.

THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, WE LOOK AT ABOUT 1,700 MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS, GIVE OR TAKE.

THOSE MIDDLE SCHOOLS WOULD BE BUILT TO ABOUT 1,050 MAX WITH THE INTENT TO HAVE ABOUT 900 STUDENTS AT EACH CAMPUS.

THE HIGH SCHOOL IS PROJECTED TO BE JUST SHY OF 2,600 STUDENTS, AND THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ONE CAMPUS OF A 2,850 MAX TO BE ABLE TO TYPICALLY HOLD ABOUT 2,700 STUDENTS.

LET'S SEE IF I CAN GO BACK TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.

WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL. CAN I START OFF BY SAYING THE OBVIOUS THING? THERE'S NO PARKING AT WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL? LET'S START THERE, BOTH FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE AND FROM A CONVENIENCE PERSPECTIVE AND ONE OF THE MOST REQUESTED FEATURES OF WHAT WE CAN BRING TO WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL.

PARKING IS A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM AND CURRENTLY IS ABLE TO, WITH STUDENT PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE AROUND 800-900 CARS.

YOU'LL SEE HERE ON THIS PICTURE.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN TAKE IT TO THE NEXT ONE. NO QUITE.

BUT THIS PICTURE, YOU'LL SEE SOME LARGE GRAY BOXES.

THOSE LARGE GRAY BOXES REPRESENT PARKING GARAGES WITH STUDENT BREEZEWAYS, THERE'S A NAME FOR THAT, WHERE THEY WALK OVER THE STREET, AS OPPOSED TO WALK DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AND TRYING TO NAVIGATE TRAFFIC.

THE LARGEST GARAGE, YOU'LL SEE THERE IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF CAMPUS, WHICH IS THE NEW PARKING GARAGE FOR MOSTLY THE STUDENTS.

TO THE LEFT OF THE PICTURE THERE, YOU'LL SEE AN AREA WHERE STAFF PARKING COULD BE AND ALSO AN AREA FOR VISITOR PARKING, AND THE TOP OF THE SCREEN THERE AS WELL, VISITOR PARKING THAT'S ADJACENT TO ATHLETIC FACILITIES AND GIVES US AN ALTERNATIVE PLACE FOR STUDENTS AND STAFF TO POTENTIALLY PARK AS WELL.

I'LL GO BACK TO THIS ONE AND JUST WALK YOU THROUGH IT.

YOU'LL SEE THE CAMPUS SITS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN THERE WITH DIFFERENT COLORED BOXES WITH A SINGULAR HALLWAY THAT RUNS DIRECTLY THROUGHOUT.

THIS GIVES A COHESIVE DESIGN TO THE CAMPUS, ALLOWING FOR PERFORMING ARTS TO BE CENTERED MOSTLY ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN THERE WITH THOSE PINK BUILDINGS, AND THEN ATHLETICS FACILITIES MOSTLY TOWARDS THAT LIGHTER ORANGE GREEN SPACE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT CAMPUS.

THOSE FACILITIES CAN BE ACCOMMODATED BY OUTDOOR SPACES AS WELL.

IF YOU NOTICE ON THE FAR LEFT HAND SIDE BETWEEN THE FAR LEFT PARKING GARAGE AND THE CAMPUS ITSELF IS A GREEN FOOTBALL FIELD AREA, THAT WOULD BE A DEDICATED BAND PRACTICE AREA.

THIS IS ALSO GREEN SPACE THAT POTENTIALLY, WHEN NOT BEING UTILIZED BY THE STUDENTS, COULD BE USED AS A REVENUE GENERATING FACILITY AS WELL FOR SOCCER GAMES OR OTHER YOUTH SPORTS OR DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD NEED A FIELD SPACE.

THAT SPACE LEADS DIRECTLY INTO WHERE THE DARK PINK BOXES WOULD BE.

THAT'S WHERE OUR CURRENT BASKETBALL GYMS SIT.

THE LIGHT PINK BOX JUST BELOW THAT IS WHERE THE PAC IS.

ONE THING THAT THE WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION SAID WHEN WE TOUR THE CAMPUS WAS, "DON'T TOUCH THE PAC, WE LOVE IT.

IT'S GREAT. IT CAN SERVE ITS PURPOSE." THERE'S SOME UPDATING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, BUT THEY LOVE THE SPACE.

THEY LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO USE IT AND THEY LOVE WHERE IT SITS.

THE PERFORMING ARTS PROGRAMS WOULD BE CENTERED AROUND THAT.

YOU'LL SEE JUST ACROSS THE HALL AREAS FOR NEW BAND ROOM, NEW ORCHESTRA FACILITIES.

OUR CURRENT BAND ROOM AND FACILITIES ARE BUILT FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THE SIZE THAT OURS CURRENTLY IS AND DOESN'T HOUSE ACCORDING TO THOSE TEA STANDARDS.

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THOSE WOULD BE MOST OF OUR CLASSROOM AREAS.

THE THEME YOU'VE SEEN IS WE'LL BUILD UP, NOT OUT TO PRESERVE SOME OF THAT GREEN SPACE AS WE LOOK OUT OF IT.

ALSO PROVIDES A SAFE SECURE AIR FOR STUDENTS TO BE EASILY MONITORED AND EASILY WATCHED OVER.

SORRY, I'M SKIPPING HERE THE THING.

THE DINING SPACE IS RIGHT IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO HALVES OF THE SCHOOL.

YOU'LL SEE THE DINING SPACE IS THAT DARKER ORANGE AREA TO THE TOP PART OF WHERE THE CAMPUS WOULD BE OR TO THAT NORTH EAST SIDE.

THAT IS A DINING SPACE THAT WOULD OVERLOOK THE FOOTBALL FIELD.

WE IMAGINE THAT BEING MORE OF A BISTRO CAFE STYLE, MORE OF A UNIVERSITY CAMPUS SETTING WHERE STUDENTS WOULD HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF IF THEY WANTED SALAD ONE DAY, SANDWICHES ANOTHER BURGERS AND PIZZA, I'M SURE ON MOST OF THE DAYS, BUT TO GIVE THEM SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF HOW THAT WOULD LOOK WITH DIFFERENT WAYS OF SITTING WITHIN A CAFETERIA.

ALSO, THAT OPENS UP TO THE FIELD WITH A BALCONY AREA FOR AGAIN, POTENTIALLY REVENUE GENERATING AREAS DURING SPORTING EVENTS OR OTHER ACTIVITIES, WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A DINING EXPERIENCE MIXED WITH SOME OF THOSE WONDERFUL VIEWS THAT WE HAVE, AS WELL AS ATHLETIC EVENTS, OR OTHER EVENTS THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING THERE.

>> LET'S SKIP OVER HERE TO THE OTHER ONE.

THE ATHLETIC SIDE OF THIS NOW, WE WILL SEE INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF FIVE DIFFERENT COMPETITION GYMS. THESE WOULD BE FULL SIZE GYMS AND GYMS WHERE WE COULD NOW HOST SPORTING EVENTS, OTHER ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES, ACTIVITIES THAT COULD USE THOSE SPACES, AGAIN FOR REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITIES, BUT IT GIVES OUR STUDENTS A PLACE TO COMPETE.

BOTH THE BASKETBALL, THE VOLLEYBALL, THE ATHLETIC CENTERS, BUT ALSO OUR CHEER, DANCE, OTHER RELATED PROGRAMS WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT ATHLETIC SPACE.

WE KNOW THAT ATHLETIC SPACE IS A HOT COMMODITY AND SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED.

THESE DESIGNS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT OUR STUDENTS SHOULD HAVE THE SPACE THEY NEED TO PERFORM ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

THIS GIVES THEM THAT SPACE AND THEN SOME.

IT ALLOWS THOSE COURTS TO BE MULTI PURPOSE AS WELL AND EASILY SWAPPED OVER FOR DIFFERENT THINGS BETWEEN A VOLLEYBALL GAME AND A WRESTLING TRAINING, CHEER DANCE COMPETITION TO SOMEWHERE WE GET PREPPED FOR CONCESSIONS OR OTHER EVENT FRIENDLY ACCESS.

THE NEW DINING AND KITCHEN SPACE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THERE.

YOU'LL SEE HERE THE WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL PACK AND BANDHA AREA, EXPLODED OUT A LITTLE BIT TO SHOW WHERE THOSE DESIGNS WOULD HAPPEN AND HOW? THERE'S THE OVERALL CAMPUS.

YOU'LL NOTICE A COUPLE OF THINGS TOO HERE THAT JUST ARE OF NOTE THAT THE BASEBALL FIELD WOULD BE MOVED ACROSS THE STREET NOW TOWARDS THAT NEWER PARKING GARAGE, CURRENTLY WHERE SOME OF THOSE PRACTICE FACILITIES SIT AS WELL AS OUR OLD STUDENT PARKING.

SOME OTHER CONCEPT OPTIONS.

THESE ARE ONES THAT THE EXISTING AQUATIC CENTER OR ATHLETIC CENTER, AND WHERE THOSE SIT AND HOW THOSE WOULD LOOK COMPARED TO THIS NEWER CAMPUS FORMAT.

>> I'M BACK UP. LET ME GO, SO WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU A PROPOSED TIMELINE IT IS COMPLICATED AND HAS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.

THE TIMELINE WAS BUILT ON TWO KEY FACTORS.

THE FIRST WOULD BE PRIORITIZING FACILITIES PURELY BASED ON THEIR CURRENT CONDITION, IS THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR.

THEN BALANCING OUT THAT PRIORITIZATION WITH JUST OBVIOUS LOGISTICAL NECESSITIES.

WE PUT A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION INTO THIS, PARTICULARLY FOR STUDENT BODIES THAT WILL NEED TO BE MOVED OUT OF THEIR CURRENT CAMPUSES.

PRIORITY WAS ON KEEPING STUDENT BODIES TOGETHER, AS WELL AS PROVIDING SIMILAR FACILITIES THAT CAN SUPPORT CURRENT PROGRAMMING.

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WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FROM A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPURPOSING SOME OF THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE LONG RANGE FACILITY PLANNING COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE PRIORITIZATION, ANALYZE, COSTS, AND DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY OF A BOND REFERENDUM.

WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT ANY DECISION INVOLVING FINAL PROJECT SCOPE OR REPRIORITIZATION SHOULD HAVE DIRECT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AS WELL.

WE PUT THIS ON THERE ALSO JUST THAT SHOULD BE A MAY OR A POSSIBLE NOVEMBER 26TH BOND, BUT THAT'S YOUR TIMING, SO THAT'S NOT OUR RECOMMENDATION.

THEN, I DIDN'T KNOW THE SLIDE DID THAT.

THAT WAS COOL. THIS IS THE TIMELINE.

IT'S A LOT TO READ ON A SLIDE AND IT'S ALSO A LOT TO TAKE IN, SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO IT IN TOO MUCH DEPTH, BUT IT SHOWS SCHOOL YEARS, AND THEN THE DESIGN PERMIT AND CONSTRUCTION PHASES.

AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, IT STARTS WITH CEDAR CREEK AND BRIDGE POINT.

WE ARE IN OUR LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT, BUT IT IS IN THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WE SENT YOU.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU LOOK COMPREHENSIVELY AT REDISTRICTING THE ENTIRETY OF YOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

YOU'RE MOVING FROM 6-5 TO A FOUR MODEL.

WHILE WE UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THE REPURPOSING OF EANES ELEMENTARY THOSE STUDENTS WILL HAVE TO BE REZONED.

WE DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.

WE WANT YOU TO COMPREHENSIVELY LOOK AT THE ENTIRETY OF THE DISTRICT, BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE LIKELIHOOD OF MANY OF THOSE STUDENTS BEING REZONED TO EITHER BRIDGE POINT OR CEDAR CREEK WOULD REQUIRE THE PRIORITIZATION OF THOSE TWO PROJECTS TO START AT THE BEGINNING.

HCS, LIKE WE SAID BEFORE, IS LATER, YOU CAN SEE THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEW BUILD AT THE HIGH SCHOOL SO THAT WE HAVE SOMEWHERE TO PUT THOSE KIDS.

IN GENERAL, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, CONSTRUCTION IS ABOUT A 15 MONTH PROCESS, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT IT COULD BE CONSOLIDATED WITH ONE SCHOOL YEAR WITH TWO SUMMERS BOOK ENDED ON EITHER.

SIDE HILL COUNTRY IS LOOKING CLOSER TO TWO SCHOOL YEARS.

THEN THE HIGH SCHOOL IS MULTIPLE PHASES, WHICH START WITH THE PRIORITIZATION AS CRAIG SAID OF PARKING, WHICH IS NOT ONLY NECESSARY, BUT ALSO THEN CREATES SOMEWHERE FOR YOU TO BUILD THAT 3-STORY CLASSROOM WING.

THEN THE FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS ARE PRIORITIZED THROUGHOUT REALLY JUST BASED ON LOGISTICAL CONCERNS.

THE PART OF THAT NINTH GRADE CENTER THEN BECOMES PART OF A NEW ATHLETIC FACILITY, SO THAT'S LATER BECAUSE THAT RENOVATION HAS TO TAKE PLACE AFTER HILL COUNTRY HAS MOVED BACK INTO THEIR SCHOOL.

>> THANK YOU BOTH. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU [LAUGHTER]. WHERE SHALL WE START?

>> I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, AND I'M ABSOLUTELY AMAZED AT HOW MUCH WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS.

THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS.

WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WE SAW A VERY LONG WAY TO GO.

THIS IS ONE STEP, BUT WE'VE SPENT A LONG TIME TO GET HERE.

THIS STARTED REALLY WITH ENVISIONINGS, AND AS FAR AS LOOKING AT FACILITIES AND RECOGNIZING THAT WE NEED SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.

THE BOARD CAME TOGETHER AND MADE THE DECISION TO LOOK AT WHAT A MODERN UPDATED DISTRICT COULD LOOK LIKE.

YOU ALL HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS.

I WAS FORTUNATE TO BE IN SOME OF THE BEGINNING MEETINGS AND THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED THEN ARE STILL HERE.

THE THINGS THAT WE SAT AS OUR PRIORITIES AND THE THINGS THAT WE SAT AS A PRIORITY AS A BOARD ARE STILL HERE, WHICH IS HARD TO DO.

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IT'S VERY EASY TO LOSE YOUR WAY, AND YOU ALL DIDN'T.

IT WAS VERY THOUGHTFUL.

THE LITTLE THINGS DOWN TO HILL COUNTRY MIDDLE SCHOOL, HAVING THE CAFETERIA BACK UP TO THE FIELDS SO THAT THE STUDENTS, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO THERE, IS THAT OPENS UP AND AT LUNCHTIME, THIS KIDS HAVE GOT TO GET THAT ENERGY OUT AND SIXTH GRADERS AFTER THEIR FIRST SEMESTER, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO OUT ONTO THE FIELDS IN THEIR FREE TIME AFTER LUNCH.

YOU HAVE INCLUDED THAT.

EANES ELEMENTARY WAS MY CAMPUS, MY HOME CAMPUS.

IT'S A INCREDIBLY SPECIAL PLACE FOR MANY REASONS.

I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, AND I'VE SEEN LOTS OF PLANS AND HEARD LOTS OF TALKS ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS TO DO TO THIS CAMPUS.

THIS IS THE BEST I'VE SEEN.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A PERFECT PROCESS.

BUT AS FAR AS A STARTING POINT, I'M VERY EXCITED.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE QUICK BECAUSE THERE'S TONS OF QUESTIONS AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TO ALL OF THEM, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ALL BACK AT SOME POINT SO WE CAN TALK MORE.

BUT I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE GUIDELINES THAT ALL SET, WHICH WAS FLEXIBLE LEARNING SPACES, EFFICIENCY.

THAT WAS A REALLY BIG THING FOR ALL OF US WAS NOT JUST THE EFFICIENCY OF THE BUILDING, BUT SO THAT WE COULD GENERATE REVENUE AND THAT IT COULD BE COST NEUTRAL OR COST EFFICIENCY.

WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT HOW SCHOOLS ARE BUILT AND HOW WE CAN RUN THEM MORE EFFICIENTLY.

I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU GOT US TO THE FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

TECHNOLOGY INTEGRATION, SAFETY AND SECURITY, COLLABORATIVE SPACES, GREEN SPACES, FLEXIBILITY, ALL OF THOSE WERE THINGS THAT ALL HAD SET IN PLACE INITIALLY AND THEY'RE STILL HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR KEEPING ALL THOSE PRIORITIES IN MIND.

THE QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO HAVE FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE THAT SITS WITHIN WESTLAKE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING PLAN, AND I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE DONE IT, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY OF WESTLAKE IS AN INTERESTING ONE AS FAR AS CODES, AND I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE LOOKED AT THAT BECAUSE THAT COULD BE A REAL CHALLENGE.

THAT REALLY, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE LOTS OF LITTLE QUESTIONS, BUT JUST FIRST PASS AT THIS.

I LOVE IT. NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BURST MY BUBBLE [LAUGHTER].

>> THANK YOU, LAURA. WE'LL GO TO KIM, AND THEN KELLY.

>> THANK YOU TO THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

I'M SIMILAR TO LAURA.

THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, AND I'M GOING TO HIT SOME HIGHLIGHTS.

ONE OF THEM WAS, DO YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATION IN THE PROCESS OF NEXT STEPS? I KNOW THAT YOU MADE A A RECOMMENDATION ON THE SLIDES AND IN YOUR REPORT THAT THERE'S A CONFIGURATION OF A BACK ALONG WITH CURRENT COMMITTEE MEMBERS OF LONG RANGE PLANNING.

BUT DO YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW YOU TAKE ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MONETIZE THEM AND COME BACK, I ENVISION IT AS A MULTI STEP PROCESS THAT HAS COMMUNITY INPUT AND COMMITTEE INPUT, COMING BACK TO THE BOARD FOR SOME DIRECTION AND THEN GOING BACK OUT TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ADMINISTRATION HAS RECOMMENDATIONS ON.

I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT ALL THREE OF YOU [LAUGHTER].

>> WORKING ALONG WITH TOM AYLER AND HIS FIRM, WE'RE PREPARED NOW TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF NOT ONLY EXTENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO GO THROUGH OUR PROVEN PROCESS OF WORKING WITH A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO BEGIN TO ASSIGN DOLLARS TO THESE PROJECTS.

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ONCE WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION, WE GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, WE CONTINUE TO VET OR REFINE THE CONCEPTS BASED UPON THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BACK AND FORTH PROCESS BASED UPON SEEKING THOROUGH INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE COMMITTEE THAT THE BOARD CHARTERS SO THAT WE CAN EVENTUALLY GET TO A DECISION AND THE BOARD CAN DETERMINE THEN WHAT MIGHT BE THE NEXT STEP REGARDING A POTENTIAL REFERENDUM.

>> THAT SOUNDS A LOT LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE IN THE LAST THREE MAINTENANCE BONDS.

BUT I SEE THIS AS DIFFERENT.

BECAUSE IT IS SO LARGE AND BECAUSE IT HAS SO MANY LEGS ON IT.

HOW DO YOU SEE AND AGAIN, I KNOW I'M YOU'RE ANSWERING THE QUESTION AS ADMINISTRATION.

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A DIRECTION AT THIS POINT AS A TRUSTEE SO SOON IN THE PROCESS AND THEN NOT REVISIT IT FOR THREE OR FOUR MONTHS OR EVEN SIX MONTH PERIOD, AND THAT'S WHAT I SEE AS A MAINTENANCE BOND.

IS THERE ANY THOUGHT ON HOW THIS DIFFERS FROM A MAINTENANCE BOND THAT I'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS? IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS AND IN TERMS OF RESET OR REDIRECTION, IF WE FEEL AS A BOARD THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT BEFORE IT COMES TO US TO DECIDE WHAT, IF ANYTHING, SHOULD GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY OR BOTH.

>> I'LL START IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT.

I THINK, FRANKLY, THIS IS GOING TO CONSUME OUR 2025-26 SCHOOL YEAR, AT LEAST LEADING UP TO THE POINT WHERE THE BOARD MAY WANT TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ABOUT A POSSIBLE REFERENDUM.

I THINK THIS IS LITERALLY GOING TO BE ON EVERY BOARD AGENDA IN SOME FORM.

MUCH LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER PROCESSES THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED THIS YEAR, LIKE THE BLEND, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE WE WOULD BRING BACK FREQUENT UPDATES AND SEEK BOARD INTERACTION.

WE HAVE THE CUSTOMARY SERIES OF CAMPUS CONVERSATIONS OR STATE OF THE DISTRICT PRESENTATIONS ON EACH CAMPUS, BOTH WITH STAFF AND WITH PARENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BECOME THE FOCUS OF THOSE MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE FALL AND INTO THE EARLY SPRING.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONTINUAL TOUCHPOINTS, AND I THINK IT REALLY BEGINS WITH PROBABLY AS SOON AS YOUR JUNE MEETINGS, THE BOARD REVISITING THE CHARTER FOR A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SEEKING NEW MEMBERS OF THAT ALONG WITH CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE LONG RANGE FACILITY PLANNING COMMITTEE, AND THEN HOPING TO CONVENE A NEW VERSION OF A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE, PROBABLY NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER OF THIS COMING SCHOOL YEAR, THAT WOULD WORK PARALLEL TO ALL OF THOSE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> I THINK HAVING A MORE ACTIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT VERSUS A TRADITIONAL BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHERE THE MEETINGS ARE OPEN AND THE PUBLIC IS FREE TO COME TO A MEETING AND ENGAGE VERSUS TAKING THE MATERIAL TO THE SCHOOLS AND TO THE PARENTS FOR DIRECT FEEDBACK.

I WILL SAY WE HAVE ALSO HAD, CRAIG MENTIONED IT EARLIER ON IN THE PRESENTATION THAT EVERY SINGLE CAMPUS HAD A CAMPUS COMMITTEE.

THOSE CAMPUS COMMITTEES WERE MADE UP OF PARENTS, STUDENTS, AND STAFF.

THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN WELL OVER 100 PLUS PEOPLE THAT HAVE GIVEN US COMMUNITY FEEDBACK TO EVEN GET HERE.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE STARTING IN A GOOD PLACE THAT IS REFLECTIVE ALREADY OF WHAT MUCH OF THIS COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THEIR SCHOOLS.

BUT I THINK GOING FORWARD, THE COMMUNITY ASPECT OF THAT TO DOCTOR ARNETT'S POINT, WILL HAVE TO BE MORE SPECIFIC CAMPUS FOCUSED FORUMS AS WELL AS JUST HAVING AN OPEN MEETING WHERE WE'RE BUILDING A BOND.

>> THE COMMITTEE ITSELF WAS 16 MEMBERS FROM ALL DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, DIFFERENT POPULATIONS OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF PARENTS, STUDENTS, EDUCATORS, PROFESSIONS.

I THINK THAT ALSO GIVES US A GOOD VIEW ON COMMUNITY INPUT FROM THE START.

WE ALSO WANTED TO GET A GOOD RUNNING START TOWARDS A BOND BY RECOMMENDING THE INCLUSION OF SOME OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS INTO THAT BOND ADVISORY.

WE DON'T NEED TO DO ALL OF THIS WORK THAT WE'VE DONE SINCE THE START OF 2024, AND THEN HIT THE RESET BUTTON AND HAVE A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE START AGAIN AND TO TRY TO FIGURE SOME OF THESE THINGS OUT.

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FINANCES WERE AT THE TOP OF EVERYONE'S MIND FROM DAY ONE WITHIN THIS COMMITTEE.

SO MUCH SO THAT THE YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS OF PLANNING THAT IS SHOWN HERE TONIGHT IS A TEMPERED AND TONED DOWN VERSION OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE INCLUDED FOUNTAINS IN THE MIDDLE OF A CAFETERIA OR VIDEO GAMES FOR EVERYONE.

IT DOES THAT VERY PURPOSEFULLY BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT HOW MUCH WE SPEND ON SYST.

IT'S IMPORTANT WHY WE'RE SPENDING THAT MONEY AND THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT WE GET FOR THAT MONEY ARE EXACTLY WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS.

I EMPHASIZE THE WORD NEEDS, NOT WANTS.

A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT DIRECTION THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS PLANNED AND GO FORWARD WITH IT.

>> THANK YOU ALL. ON THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BECAUSE I THINK FOR ANY SUCCESSFUL, BE IT A SMALL OR A LARGE BOND, THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO FEEL LIKE THEY UNDERSTAND IT AND OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

YOU HAVE BUCKETS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS COMMITTEE AND ENGAGED IN CAMPUS COMMITTEES.

IT SOUNDS LIKE DOCTOR ARNETT, YOU ARE SAYING THAT THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATIONS AS WE GATHER THIS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER IDEAS OR BUCKETS OF GATHERING COMMUNITY INPUT OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF?

>> CAN I HIGHLIGHT JUST ONE. ONE IS OUR ADULT TRANSITION SERVICES PTS, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THAT'S A COMMUNITY THAT WE WRESTLED WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT FACILITY, WHAT TO DO WITH THAT STUDENT POPULATION.

HOW DO WE HELP OUT WHERE WE CAN? THE MESSAGE CAME BACK LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE ATS.

WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST.

LET US HAVE A VOICE AT THIS TABLE.

WE REALIZED THAT MAYBE WE WEREN'T ADDRESSING THAT VOICE AS WELL AS WE COULD.

WHEN WE THINK OF COMMUNITIES THAT CAN BE INVOLVED IN THAT DECISION PROCESS, I THINK THAT THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC TARGETED GROUPS THAT WE CAN BRING IN.

THAT'S A SMALL EXAMPLE.

BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT EXAMPLE BECAUSE I THINK IT SHOWS THAT THERE ARE GROUPS THAT WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED OR DID NOT HAVE REPRESENT SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE NEED TO GET THAT INPUT AND FEEDBACK FROM.

THAT CAN BE DONE THROUGH SURVEYS SOMETIMES.

IT CAN BE DONE THROUGH COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

IT COULD BE DONE THROUGH TOWN HALLS OR FORUMS. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT, BUT YES, THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVEN'T GOT TO, AND YES, I THINK IT'S VITAL THAT WE AT LEAST HERE. WHAT WE CAN DO.

>> THEN I THINK CRAIG, YOU MENTIONED, I'VE SEEN IN THE REPORT, AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE TEA STANDARDS, AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHO THE RIGHT PERSON IS TO ANSWER.

ARE THERE REQUIREMENTS, OR ARE THERE STANDARDS THAT WE HOPE FOR? I WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT ANSWERS FOR DIFFERENT CAMPUSES AND DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS OF THE CAMPUS.

BUT WHEN I HEAR REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE NOT MET, THAT SCARES ME, AND THEN WHEN I HEAR THE HOPE FOR STANDARDS, THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT BUCKETS.

ARE YOU LOOKING AT THOSE IN DIFFERENT WAYS?

>> I THINK WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT TOM AYLER REALIZING THAT HE'S PROBABLY THE BEST PERSON TO ANSWER THAT. PULL UP A CHAIR, TOM.

>> THANK YOU. THE TEA HAS ADOPTED REGULATIONS.

I THINK THE LAST ADOPTION WAS NOVEMBER OF 22 OR 2023, AND THEY'RE CONSTANTLY UPDATING THOSE REGULATIONS.

ANY SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT GOES AND BUILDS A NEW FACILITY, THEY MUST MEET THE REGULATIONS THAT TEA HAS OUTLINED.

MOST OF THOSE ARE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR SIZES OF CLASSROOM SPACES OR NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN A ROOM, AND A LOT OF THOSE REGULATIONS ARE DRIVEN BY SAFETY.

WHEN WE LOOK AT SCIENCE LABS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT ARE UNDER SIZE OR AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THAT ARE UNDER SIZE, WHILE NOBODY'S GOING TO SAY, YOU MUST GO DO THIS, WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE SAFETY IMPLICATIONS AND SAY, IT'S BEST PRACTICE FOR OUR STUDENTS AND OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF THAT WE SHOULD UPGRADE THESE TO THE APPROPRIATE SIZES.

THEY ARE REGULATIONS THAT GOVERN CERTAIN ASPECTS OF SCHOOL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.

>> WE'RE SAYING THAT, YES, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF GRANDFATHERED IN REQUIREMENTS OR CLASSROOMS.

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I WAS ONE OF THOSE STUDENTS THAT WAS IN THE CRAZY OPEN CONCEPT THAT I THINK CEDAR CREEK WAS BUILT FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AGO, AND THINGS CHANGE.

WE HAVE VARIOUS ASSUMPTIONS AND IN MY TIME ON THE BOARD, OUR DEMOGRAPHICS HAVE CHANGED, AND WE'VE RELIED ON ASSUMPTIONS, AND I KNOW IN YOUR REPORT, YOU ADDRESSED THAT, THAT WE HAD ASSUMPTIONS THAT AS A BOARD, AND AS ADMINISTRATION, WE LOOKED AT FOUR YEARS AGO, AND THEY HAVE VASTLY CHANGED.

I WOULD JUST MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT SOME OF THESE ASSUMPTIONS ON DEMOGRAPHICS ON THE POTENTIAL FOR REVENUE GENERATION, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK A LOT OF CONCEPTS ARE BASED ON.

WE ARE OPEN IN THOSE CHANGING.

AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TIME RIGHT NOW.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND A LOT OF EMPHASIS THAT'S BEEN PUT ON RENTAL OPPORTUNITIES.

I CAN THINK OF BIG BUCKETS OF ATHLETICS AND PERFORMING ARTS.

BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME CREATIVITY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE COME UP WITH.

THE ASSUMPTIONS, I THINK ARE MORE FLUID THAN SET IN STONE, AND MAYBE IN FUTURE DISCUSSIONS, WE CAN FLESH THOSE OUT.

AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE SITTING HERE.

I APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT'S WORKED ON THIS PROCESS.

I KNOW IT'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME AND THOUGHT AND CREATIVITY THAT WENT INTO IT.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT FOR US.

>> THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO KELLY AND THEN TO JOHN.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH GUYS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND FOR YOUR COMMITTEES AND THE INDIVIDUAL CAMPUS COMMITTEES AND I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF TIME, AND CONSIDERATION PUT INTO IT.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT WORK.

I REALLY HAVE TO SAY I LOVED SEEING OUR GUIDING MISSION THERE.

I SEE INSPIRE, UNITE AND POWER IN SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

I SAW YOU OUR GRADES TOGETHER, SO OUR TEACHERS CAN MORE EASILY COLLABORATE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY DO THAT DURING THE DAY AS WELL WHEN THEY HAVE A MOMENT.

WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE CLASSROOMS GROUPED TOGETHER LIKE THAT AND THEY CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

THAT'S JUST SO IMPORTANT.

I LOVE SEEING SOME OF THE ARTS AND STUFF TOGETHER AND THE ATHLETICS TOGETHER.

IT JUST MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE.

THEN I THOUGHT FOR UNITE, HOW IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, YOU PUT ALL OF OUR FREQUENT VOLUNTEER SPOTS TOGETHER UP IN THE FRONT.

LIKE THE LIBRARY TIME OR HAVING LUNCH WITH YOUR KIDDO AND STUFF.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT THERE IN THE ENTRY FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY, AND THE CLASSROOMS ARE OFF ON TO THE OTHER SIDE, AND I JUST REALLY LIKE THAT DESIGN.

THEN I REALLY APPRECIATED HOW YOU CALLED IT NO MORE POST ELEMENTARY, BUT PRE HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY DO SEE THAT IN OUR STUDENTS.

I DO KNOW IT IS HARD TO GO ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE HIGH SCHOOL FOR THE BAND AND ORCHESTRA TO DO STUFF.

IT'S REALLY NICE TO BE SO CONSIDERATE AND HAVE THE STUDENTS HAVE THAT SPACE AT THEIR CAMPUS.

THEN I KNOW EVEN HERE AT CEDAR CREEK, WE RENT THE SPACE OUT TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF GROUPS THAT WILL USE THOSE SPACES.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVED YOUR REVENUE SOURCES.

I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, WERE SOME OF THE MOST EXCITING IDEAS THAT CAME OUT OF YOUR COMMITTEE IN YOUR OPINION ABOUT REVENUE SOURCES? I MEAN, THERE WERE SO MANY IDEAS, BUT WHAT DID YOU GUYS FIND THE MOST EXCITING?

>> I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTER AT EANES ELEMENTARY.

I THINK IT REALLY HONORS THE HISTORY OF AINS.

IT PRESERVES WHAT MAKES IT SO CHARMING AND KEEPS IT AVAILABLE FOR STUDENTS OF SYST JUST YOUNGER CHILDREN.

I THINK THAT THAT EXEMPLIFIES THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN TRYING TO MAKE MONEY AND ALSO TRYING TO HONOR THAT WE ARE A SCHOOL DISTRICT.

FOR US, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT REVENUE.

THERE WERE SO MANY IDEAS, I MEAN, COFFEE SHOPS AND TEACHER HOUSING, AND IT WENT ON AND ON.

FOR US, REALLY, BECAUSE WHILE WE FOCUSED ON IT, IT WAS NOT.

WE WERE NOT LOOKING AT BUSINESS MODELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT REALLY FOR US, THE FOCUS WAS.

LET'S UTILIZE WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAXIMIZING IT.

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SPECIFICALLY, THE TWO PERFORMING ART CENTERS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY RENTING IT TO MORE STUDENT GROUPS.

BUT TO ANY COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT WANT TO DO A GUEST LECTURE OR A COMMUNITY CHOIR PERFORMANCE.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ENTITIES OUT THERE THAT WOULD LOOK FOR THAT SPACE FOR VARIOUS ACTIVITIES.

I THINK WE DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT.

FOR US WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT REVENUE GENERATION.

WHERE WE REALLY HONED IN ON WAS THE THINGS THAT WE ALREADY DO WELL AND TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THAT.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO ADDRESS IS OUR CTE PROGRAMS. WHAT DO OUR STUDENTS WANT TO BE EDUCATED IN AND WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF THAT EDUCATION? WE DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WE DO WE WANT TO TAKE IT? THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION WITHIN THE HIGH SCHOOL SUBCOMMITTEE AS WE MET ABOUT REPURPOSING SOME THINGS AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND PLANS AROUND A HEALTH SCIENCES FOCUS.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I'M BIASED A BIT BECAUSE I'M IN HEALTH SCIENCE.

BUT I DO LOVE THE IDEA THAT OUR STUDENTS CAN BE EDUCATED IN A DIVERSE FIELD THAT OFFERS OPPORTUNITIES FOR CLINICAL, PRACTICAL SKILLS.

IT OFFERS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESEARCH SKILLS.

IT OFFERS A CHANCE FOR US TO CONSIDER THE BUSINESS OF CERTAIN AREAS LIKE HEALTHCARE.

THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT FACETS IN WHICH OUR STUDENTS CAN LEARN.

THERE ALSO ARISES THEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REVENUE BY SAYING, WHAT IF WE PARTNERED WITH A LARGER HOSPITAL SYSTEM TO FIND A WAY TO TEACH OUR KIDS ACTUAL PRACTICAL HEALTH CARE SKILLS, PUBOTOMY CLASSES, NURSING CLASSES, PHYSICAL THERAPY OPPORTUNITIES, OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY, SPORTS MEDICINE, REHAB OPPORTUNITIES.

THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PARTNERING WITH LARGER CONGLOMERATES LIKE THAT AND POTENTIALLY BRINGING REAL LIVE PATIENTS INTO OUR FACILITIES FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, AND ALSO FOR REVENUE DRIVING OPPORTUNITIES, GIVES US A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE FUTURE FOR AN EDUCATION PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO FROM A COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND REVENUE DRIVING PERSPECTIVE.

WE TALKED ABOUT VALLEY VIEW AND THAT BUILDING ITSELF. WHAT COULD BECOME OF THAT? WELL, THERE'S POTENTIALLY A CHANCE TO LOOK AT COMMUNITY COLLEGE ENGAGEMENTS, OUTREACHES WITH NURSING PROGRAMS WITH FBOMY PROGRAMS, MEDICAL ASSISTANT PROGRAMS, THAT COULD ALSO BE RUN RIGHT THERE ON OUR CAMPUSES WITH A PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT TOWARDS OUR STUDENTS FOR FURTHER EDUCATION.

>> I LOVE THAT. THAT LEADS ME TO INSPIRE OUR LAST ONE, AND THE CDC WITH THAT PATH TO THE HIGH SCHOOL OR VICE VERSA, THE HIGH SCHOOL PATH TO HELP THESE KIDS BECOME EDUCATORS IS INCREDIBLE.

THEN DOCTOR BOYLE, AS A TRAUMA NURSE, I ALSO LOVE MY HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS.

I GOT A TEXT TODAY FROM A PARENT WHOSE DAUGHTER JUST COMPLETED HER CERTIFIED NURSE ASSISTANT THROUGH THE HIGH SCHOOL, OR MEDICAL ASSISTANT, I'M SORRY, CERTIFIED MEDICAL ASSISTANT, AND SHE WAS ASKING ME IF I KNEW ANY PLACES I COULD RECOMMEND HER FOR A JOB.

I CAN SEE THIS GROWING AND THE INTEREST IN IT IS JUST SNOWBALLING.

THANK YOU FOR THINKING OF THAT AND FOR HELPING OFFER THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO OUR STUDENTS.

MY LAST QUESTION WAS, YOU TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE WITH THE FINANCES WHERE YOU HAD TO CUT BACK ON SOME THINGS.

WHEN WE REDED OUR HOUSE, SHE WAS LIKE, I'LL SHOW YOU DISNEYLAND AND THEN YOU CAN CREATE WHAT'S REASONABLE FOR YOU.

TELL ME ABOUT SOME OF THE SOME OF THAT PROCESS AND SOME OF THE INSIGHT YOU GAINED.

THE CONSENSUS YOU HAD TO COME ABOUT AS A GROUP ON NOT NECESSARILY FINANCING.

BUT MAYBE JUST ONE OF THE IDEAS OR PROJECTS SO WE CAN GET INSIGHT TO HOW YOU HAD TO NARROW IT DOWN A LITTLE, I GUESS, IF YOU HAD A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.

>> I'LL JUST SAY ONE SESSION THAT WE HAD AS A COMMITTEE WAS WE WALKED INTO WE WERE IN HILL COUNTRY, THE LIBRARY, AND WE HAD POSTER BOARDS UP ALL AROUND THE LIBRARY OF DIFFERENT CONCEPTS OF CAMPUSES AROUND THE STATE THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT AROUND THE COUNTRY.

I'M SURE HALFWAY AI-GENERATED, BUT GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT WOULD A LIBRARY LOOK LIKE WITH GIANT SLIDING GLASS DOORS THAT OPEN UP TO THE OUTDOOR AIR THAT WOULD BREEZE THROUGH NATURALLY AND ALLOW STUDENTS TO READ ABOUT NATURE WHILE BEING IN NATURE.

THESE ARE AMAZING CONCEPTS.

I DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO DO SOME REALLY NEAT THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT ONE THING I LEARNED FROM THAT LESSON WAS, THE POSSIBILITIES ARE THERE.

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I DON'T THINK THAT DISNEYLAND WAS NEEDED.

I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT THE BONES OF WHAT MAKE A SCHOOL DISTRICT GREAT WE HAVE.

SORRY, FOR ASTRONOMERS, AGAIN, WE HAD A BURN PATIENT COME IN ONCE AS JUST AFTER THE INCIDENT, HORRIBLY BURNED.

WE WERE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF REALLY NEAT THINGS TO HELP THIS PERSON.

THEY CAME BACK IN A YEAR LATER FOR AN UNRELATED EVENT, AND I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THE PERSON THAT WAS IN FRONT OF ME THAT I'D SEEN BEFORE, AND THEIR COMMENT WAS, IT'S STILL ME, I JUST LOOK BETTER.

I THINK THAT WE CAN STILL BE EANES, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.

IT CAN JUST LOOK BETTER THAN IT CURRENTLY DOES.

THERE ARE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THIS WORLD AND IN THIS STATE THAT NEIGHBOR US THAT TRY HARD TO GET WHAT WE HAVE, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BUILD.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SET A BOND FOR, BUT THEY WILL GET NEW BUILDINGS.

THEY'LL SET UP BEAUTIFUL GLASS OPENED AIRED LIBRARIES, BUT TO GET WHAT WE HAVE, WE ALREADY HAVE IT.

WE JUST NEED TO HELP IT ALONG THE WAY SO IT LOOKS A LITTLE BETTER AND CAN PROVIDE THAT SAME THING FOR DECADES TO COME.

WHEN I SAW THAT PIE IN THE SKY ON THOSE POSTERS, AND WHAT WAS SET UP IN THE LIBRARY, IS ONE PARTICULAR THING THAT I CAN THINK OF, BECAUSE I CAN SEE THE DOORS OPENING.

I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, DOES EANES NEED THIS? DOES THAT STILL MAKE IT EANES, EVEN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT? THE ANSWERS WERE WHAT I DIDN'T THINK I WOULD FIND OUT, THAT NO, I DON'T THINK WE NECESSARILY NEED THAT.

THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

OTHER GROUPS WILL MAKE THOSE DECISIONS BETTER THAN WE COULD AT THE TIME BECAUSE IT WASN'T UNDER OUR REMIT, BUT THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE OF WE SAW WHAT COULD BE, AND WE DECIDED TO MAYBE BACK OFF OF THOSE DECISIONS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT WASN'T FOR US.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, GUYS.

>> THANK YOU, KELLY. WE'LL GO TO JOHN AND THEN KATHERINE.

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THIS IS REALLY EXCITING.

WHEN YOU GO AROUND THE DISTRICT, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WE GOT SOME WORK TO DO TO INVEST IN OUR FACILITIES.

I CAN SEE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DID.

THIS IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT THING, Y'ALL POUNDED THE PAVEMENT, ASKED TOUGH QUESTIONS, DID HARD WORK.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

A FEW CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, JUST SOME QUICK NUTS AND BOLTS ONES.

ALL FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WOULD BE THE SAME SIZE.

THAT'S 750-850.

>> YES, ROUGHLY THE SAME SIZE.

>> PERFECT. THAT COMES OUT TO SIX CLASSROOMS PER GRADE LEVEL,?

>> THE FUNCTIONING, YES, THERE WOULD BE SIX CLASSROOMS PER GRADE LEVEL WITH AN ADDITIONAL FLEX IN THOSE THREE-STORY BUILDINGS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 13 CLASSES TIMES THREE IS 39.

IF YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY 22, I THINK IT'S 850 SOMETHING, BECAUSE I DID THE MATH TODAY, BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO HAVE 22 KIDS IN EVERY CLASS.

NOR ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ALL YOUR CLASSROOMS FULL BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE OF THOSE CLASSROOMS ON EACH LEVEL AS FLEX SPACE.

AT THE MAX, WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE SCHOOLS, WOULD BE CLOSER TO A 750.

LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS IN A LOT OF CASES, IT LOOKS LIKE PROBABLY CLOSER TO SIX OR 650, JUST DEPENDING.

WE LOOKED AT MULTIPLE PROJECTIONS, SOMEWHERE MORE OPTIMISTIC, SOMEWHERE LESS OPTIMISTIC, SO WE TRIED TO FIND A MIDDLE GROUND THERE, BUT I THINK YOU'D BE CLOSER TO 650 TO 700 KIDS, DEPENDING, WHICH IS WHAT BRIDGE POINT WAS BUILT TO HOLD, 750, I THINK IS THE MAX, AND THEY'VE HAD UPWARDS OF 700 KIDS.

THESE NEW BUILDINGS WOULD BE SLIGHTLY BIGGER THAN THE BRIDGE POINT THAT WE HAVE NOW.

>> THAT ACTUALLY GETS TO ONE OF THE JUST THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS I HAVE.

WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT TRACK RECORD AT PREDICTING DEMOGRAPHICS BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD AND NOBODY HAS A CRYSTAL BALL, AND SO YOU DO YOUR BEST AND YOU'RE ALMOST GUARANTEED TO BE WRONG.

I REMEMBER LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC REPORT FROM 10, 12 YEARS AGO, AND IT HAD A WORST-CASE SCENARIO IN THERE.

BOY, DOES THAT WORST CASE LOOK AWFULLY ROSY RIGHT NOW? I'M CURIOUS AS WE WORK THROUGH THE ASSUMPTIONS HERE, HOW FLEXIBLE ARE SOME OF THESE FACILITIES? IF WE DECIDED, HEY, GREAT PLAN, WE ACTUALLY THINK WE NEED TO PLUS IT UP, OR PLUS IT DOWN.

ARE THESE PLANS EASILY ADJUSTABLE, OR IS THAT A PRETTY DIFFICULT PROCESS? I'M GOING TO LET TOM TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE NOT MAKING A MORE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION ON VALLEY VIEW IS ONE THERE'S JUST SO MANY OPTIONS,

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THEN, AS FAR AS FLEXING DOWN.

>> WE TOOK A VERY DEEP DIVE INTO THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND ACTUALLY SPENT MULTIPLE SESSIONS LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND REVISING AND REASSESSING AND RE-LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE WERE PROJECTING FIT THE BEST AND WORST CASE SCENARIOS AS WE COULD PROJECT THEM.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT OTHER SIMILAR DISTRICTS LIKE HIGHLAND PARK, ALAMO HEIGHTS, DISTRICTS THAT HAVE A HIGH COST OF ENTRY FOR FAMILIES TO MOVE THERE, AND LOOKED AT, WELL, WHAT ARE THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS DOING? ARE WE TRENDING SIMILAR? WE ARE SEEING SOME OF THE SAME RESULTS WHERE DECLINE IN ELEMENTARY LEVELS, AND YOU START TO STABILIZE MORE AT YOUR HIGH SCHOOL LEVELS, WHERE PROFESSIONALS CAN AFFORD TO MOVE IN AND MOVE INTO THE DISTRICT.

AS WE LOOKED AT THE CAMPUSES, WE TOOK THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AND PART OF THE EVALUATION PROCESS FOR THE ELEMENTARIES WAS TO SAY, WHERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW GROWTH IN THE DISTRICT THAT WE POTENTIALLY COULD COME IN THE FUTURE.

HOW COULD THAT POSSIBLY IMPACT US? WE SEE THAT POTENTIALLY HERE AT CEDAR CREEK, IF OTHER THINGS HAPPEN WITH DEVELOPMENT AT THE BARTON CREEK MALL AREA, AND OTHER THINGS HAPPEN WITH MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

WITH THAT DISCUSSION AND STRATEGY, ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE-STORY CONCEPTS IS REALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MINIMIZING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SPACE AND CREATING MORE GREEN SPACE SO THAT IF WE NEED TO DO IN ADDITION TO UP-SIZE THE SCHOOL, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

WE'VE PLANNED THAT IN, PARTICULARLY, AND IT'S CAPABLE AT EACH ELEMENTARY THAT IT COULD BE EXPANDED.

MY PERSONAL OPINION, AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 35 YEARS, IS I DON'T THINK THE STUDENT ENROLLMENT AT ANY SCHOOL WILL PROBABLY BE OVER 750 FOR A VERY LONG TIME IN THE DISTRICT.

>> YEAH, AND I AGREE.

I'M WORRIED THE OTHER WAY.

FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE RED FLAG THINGS THAT JUST MAKES ME PAUSE IS WHEN I LOOK AT AFTER THE BLEND, THE PROJECTED AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG DR. ARNETT, IF ANYTHING'S CHANGED, BUT LAST I HEARD, THE PROJECTED KINDER ENROLLMENT FOR THE NEW COMBINED BCE IS ONLY THREE CLASSES, AND THAT'S AFTER COMBINING TWO SCHOOLS. IS THAT STILL?

>> MOLLY, YOU HAVE THE LATEST, I THINK, SO I'LL LET YOU.

>> WE HAVE FOUR CLASSES RIGHT NOW, 73 STUDENTS.

>> WE'RE UP TO FOUR. THAT'S GREAT.

IT'S JUST SO MUCH IS BASED ON THE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, AND THINKING THROUGH WHAT'S OUR ENROLLMENT STRATEGY FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS, AND MAKING SURE WE'RE BUILDING BASED UPON THAT BECAUSE I PERSONALLY AM A BELIEVER THAT ENROLLMENT IS NOT JUST YOU TAKE WHAT YOU GET.

I THINK WE HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN ENROLLMENT, AND THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF COMPETING FOR KIDS AND PUTTING OUT A VISION THAT THE COMMUNITY RESPONDS TO, THAT HOPEFULLY DRIVES UP ENROLLMENT.

NOW, YOU CAN'T WAIVE A MAGIC WAND AND CHANGE THE BIRTH RATE, LIKE I GET THAT, BUT I DO THINK ENROLLMENT, WE HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN, SO SOME OF THIS IS BASED UPON OUR STRATEGY AROUND ENROLLMENT AND HOW THAT MIGHT DRIVE THE FACILITIES AS WELL.

FOR COST, I FOR ONE, COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WAS LET'S MAKE OUR PLAN, AND LET'S NOT GET OVERWHELMED WITH COST.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU GOT TO START.

IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

I GUESS, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH A BOND AND ALSO FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE, I ALSO DON'T WANT TO WASTE A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEES TIME AND LET'S SAY, WE AS A BOARD, ARE NOT COMFORTABLE ONCE WE HASH IT OUT GOING ABOVE X, BUT THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS PLANNING ON 3X.

HOW HAVE WE SURFACED THAT IN THE PAST, OR KIM, I KNOW YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THIS, HOLLY, I KNOW YOU HAVE, WHERE WE ARE BEING EFFICIENT AND MOVING FORWARD EFFECTIVELY WITHOUT WASTING ANYONE'S TIME, BUT ALSO NOT PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

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I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE PUT BEFORE THE COMMUNITY PASSES, AND I THINK THE COST IS A BIG ELEMENT FOR THERE.

I'M CURIOUS HOW WE'VE APPROACHED THAT IN THE PAST, AND THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH IT, WHAT YOU WOULD SAY.

>> AS THE OLD-TIMER BOARD MEMBER HERE NOW, I'LL SPEAK AS THE SENIOR STATESMAN.

NO, SERIOUSLY, I RECALL IN 2019, AND THIS WAS WHEN I WAS FIRST GETTING INVOLVED IN RUNNING FOR SCHOOL BOARD.

HOLLY, YOU WERE AROUND AT THAT TIME, TOO.

THE BOARD GUIDED THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE AT THAT POINT TO DEVELOP ONE NUMBER, A SECOND NUMBER, AND THEN A HIGH NUMBER, AND WHAT WOULD BE IN SIZE A, WHAT WOULD BE IN SIZE B, AND WHAT WOULD BE IN SIZE C. THERE WAS SOME GUIDANCE PROVIDED AT THAT TIME.

THERE COULD BE GUIDANCE THAT SAYS WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT TWO BONDS OR THREE BONDS OF THIS CAP, OR GUIDING THAT WAY, AND IT COULD BE BOND CAPACITY, WHICH CHRIS REVIEWED WITH US RECENTLY.

YOUR SHORT ANSWER IS YES, THE BOARD CAN GUIDE THE BACK.

IF THE BOARD CAN AGREE, THEN THE BOARD CAN GUIDE THE BACK ON SOME SIZES, YES. DOES THAT HELP?

>> THAT DOES.

>> JAMES, IF I COULD ADD.

THAT WAS ALSO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO IN MY MORE OPEN OR BROAD QUESTION ON THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE I DO SEE HAVING FOLLOWED THREE DIFFERENT SUCCESSFUL BONDS AND ONE THAT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL OVER 10 YEARS AGO.

I THINK THAT AS A BOARD, AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE INVESTING TIME, WE SHOULD BE VERY PURPOSEFUL IN NOT ONLY DIRECTING, BUT MAYBE REDIRECTING BASED ON WHAT WE SEE, THE FEEDBACK WE GET, AS WELL AS COMMUNITY INPUT.

I SEE THIS BEING VERY MULTI-FACETED IN THIS PROCESS.

I APPRECIATE WHAT DR. ARNETT JUST SAID IN TERMS OF HEARING FROM THE BACK COMMITTEE, ON A REGULAR MONTHLY BASIS, THE BUSINESS OFFICE.

I THINK ALL OF THOSE DATA POINTS ARE GOING TO DRIVE US AS FINAL DECISION MAKERS, BUT THE COMMUNITY INPUT AS WELL.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE. HOLLY, I KNOW YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THIS.

ANYTHING YOU WOULD ADD?

>> I THINK THE LAST BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE I WAS ON WAS THE 2023 BOND.

MUCH LIKE MR. SPRADLEY SAID, WE HAD MULTIPLE OPTIONS AND BUILT MULTIPLE SCENARIOS.

THEN, ULTIMATELY, AFTER REVIEWING ALL THE OPTIONS, WE WERE JUST GIVEN A DROP-DEAD NUMBER TO THEN GO BACK AND REWORK THE PACKAGE.

EACH COMMITTEE MEMBER HAD A SPREADSHEET WHERE WE WERE RANKING AND EVALUATING PROJECTS TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW JUST AS A STARTING POINT FOR DISCUSSION, WHICH THEN THE ENTIRETY OF THE COMMITTEE VOTED ON EACH TO JUST TRY AND WHITTLE IT DOWN UNTIL WE GOT TO THAT MAGIC NUMBER THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, AND THEN WE SUBMITTED IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> YEAH. THAT MAKES SENSE.

THESE NEEDS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.

THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS END UP WASTING TIME ON SOMETHING AND THEN REALIZING DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE WANTED A THIRD OF THAT NUMBER.

I DO HOPE, AS A BOARD, WE CAN HAVE SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS EARLIER SO THAT WE CAN GIVE GOOD GUIDANCE TO THE BOX.

ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR THE COMMITTEE.

I UNDERSTAND THE PRIORITY.

A LOT OF THAT WAS BASED UPON THE REALITIES OF NEEDING TO RELOCATE STUDENTS WHILE YOU DO CONSTRUCTION.

JUST FROM A PURE STATE OF THE FACILITIES, IF YOU IGNORE THE NEED TO RELOCATE AND ALL OF THAT, AND THE ORDER THAT COMES BECAUSE OF THAT, JUST PURE STATE OF THE FACILITIES, THE ONES THAT YOU THINK ARE IN URGENT NEED.

IF YOU HAD TO PICK ONE OR TWO, WHAT WOULD THOSE BE?

>> SHERIFF CRAIG AND I HAVE THE SAME ANSWER ON THIS.

I'M GOING TO JUST GIVE YOU THE ORDER OF YOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

YOU HAVE CEDAR CREEK AND EANES ELEMENTARY THAT SIT VERY SIMILARLY AT THE BOTTOM OF WHERE YOUR FACILITIES SHOULD BE, AS FAR AS THEIR MODERN CAPACITIES.

I THINK THAT THE CLASSROOM SETUP AT CEDAR CREEK, SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD PUT THAT AS YOUR FACILITY THAT IS IN MOST NEED.

THE CLASSROOM MAKEUP OF THE SCHOOL REALLY DOES NOT WORK FOR A MODERN SCHOOL,

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THEY HAVE BETTER CLASSROOM SPACE.

SOME NATURAL LIGHT, ALTHOUGH SOME ASPECTS OF VALLEY VIEW DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT THE LAYOUT AND THE CHALLENGES OF THOSE SITES ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO THOSE SCHOOLS.

I WOULD SAY BARTON CREEK AS IT IS NOW IS A GOOD DEAL BETTER THAN THE FOREST TRAIL, ALTHOUGH WITH THE BLEND, THERE ARE JUST CERTAIN UNDERSIZED ASPECTS OF THAT SCHOOL THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, AND THEN BRIDGE POINT IS VERY MUCH HEAD AND SHOULDERS IS YOUR BEST FACILITY.

FOR ME, HILL COUNTRY FALLS IN WITH CEDAR CREEK.

IT'S VERY MUCH THE SAME AGE.

I THINK ONE OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS DESCRIBED IT AS IT WAS BUILT TO LOOK LIKE A JAIL.

HONESTLY, NO DISRESPECT TO HILL COUNTRY, BUT IT IS VERY HARD TO GET IN THAT BELLY OF THAT SCHOOL AND REALIZE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE WINDOWS, YOU DON'T HAVE PROPER HALLWAYS, AND YOU ARE JUST IN A CEMENT BLOCK CYCLE.

I WOULD SAY THAT HILL COUNTRY TO ME, ALONG WITH CEDAR CREEK.

THEN THE HIGH SCHOOL IS ITS OWN ANIMAL.

IT REALLY IS JUST IN NEED OF BEING REWORKED.

IT IS INCREDIBLY CONFUSING TO PEOPLE.

STUDENTS ARE STILL LOST AT TIMES.

TEACHERS ARE LOST, AND TOM CAN TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES AT THE HIGH SCHOOL IS THAT IT IS SO SPREAD OUT.

THAT I THINK THERE IS UP TO A QUARTER MILE SOMETIMES THAT STUDENTS AND STAFF ARE HAVING TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITHIN THE BELLY OF THAT SCHOOL, THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

>> CRAIG, ANYTHING.

>> PARKING AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

IT'S JUST A MAJOR ISSUE FOR SAFETY THERE.

I THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS FIRST, SAFETY IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT LIST WAS PRETTY LARGE THEN ABOUT HOW CAN WE MAKE OUR CAMPUSES SAFER, BETTER FOR OUR STUDENTS, BETTER LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS FOR THEM.

HOLLY, ABSOLUTELY NAILED THE LIST OF WHERE WE WOULD BE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.

PARKING WAS A BIG ISSUE, AND IT'S EASY TO GO DOWN A RABBIT HOLE AND SAY, WELL, PARKING IS AN ISSUE, BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT TO BUILD THE BREEZEWAYS.

WELL, THEN THERE'S THE BAND FIELD THAT WE COULD BUILD AND PUT SNOWBALLS FROM THERE, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN KEY THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO BRING TO THE FOREFRONT AT EACH ONE OF THE CAMPUSES IF WE COULD.

>> THEN FROM A PERMITTING PROCESS, I ASSUME OUR SITES, FOR EXAMPLE, CEDAR CREEK, IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE HARDEST.

HAVING WORKED WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN THE PAST, I KNOW IT CAN BE A LITTLE CHALLENGING.

>> RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PLANNING APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR FOR PERMITTING FOR PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

CEDAR CREEK IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE CAMPUSES.

FORTUNATELY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AT MARTIN CREEK AND WEST RIDGE, THOSE WERE IN CITY OF AUSTIN ETJ.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS VACATED THOSE AND REMOVED THEMSELVES FROM AUSTIN'S ETJ, SO THOSE WILL JUST BE UNDER TRAVIS COUNTY REVIEW.

THERE'S BEEN SOME THINGS PUT IN PLACE THAT WILL HELP FACILITATE, BUT YES, THE SCHOOLS IN AUSTIN WERE PROJECTING AT LEAST ONE YEAR FOR PERMITTING.

>> FOR COMPARISON, PATTON CREEK, NOW THAT IT'S OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN ETJ, WHAT'S THE OTHER END OF THAT?

>>I THINK WE KNOCKED IT DOWN TO NINE MONTHS.

IT STILL HAS TO GO TO TRAVIS COUNTY.

IT STILL IS IN SOME CRITICAL WATERSHEDS.

WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE, LIKE THE TNRCC, BUT IT WON'T HAVE ALL THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ISSUES THAT YOU GET IN WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

>> THEN LASTLY, I KNOW YOU ALREADY TOUCHED ON IT, BUT CAN YOU SHARE A BIT MORE ABOUT THE DECISION TO TEAR DOWN FOREST TRAIL AND REBUILD IT RATHER THAN VALLEY VIEW AND USING THAT AS THE CAMPUS AND INVESTING IN THAT OR TEARING IT DOWN?

>> ABSOLUTELY. I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT AND THEN, TOM YOU'LL JUMP IN ON WHATEVER I MISS.

BUT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF THE VALLEY VIEW CAMPUS IS THAT IT IS SPECIFICALLY BUILT INTO THE SIDE OF A HILL.

THERE'S A WALKOUT BACK TO THE SCHOOL, BUT IT CREATES ISSUE WITH NATURAL LIGHT INSIDE THE SCHOOL.

TOM'S OPINION AND HE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS MORE IS THAT IF WE WERE TO SUBSTANTIALLY RENOVATE THAT CAMPUS OR TO RECONSTRUCT IT, WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO DIG OUT BEHIND THE SCHOOL BECAUSE THERE IS ALSO NO EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS BEHIND VALLEY VIEW,

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IT IS ALSO EXPENSIVE AT FOREST TRAIL.

BUT IF WE'RE DOING EXPENSIVE SITE WORK ON ON EITHER CAMPUS, THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT KEEPING FOREST TRAIL WHERE IT IS WHERE IT'S A LITTLE MORE SECLUDED FROM 360 WOULD BE A PREFERABLE SPOT.

>> SHE DID REALLY GOOD. [LAUGHTER]. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT.

THAT SITE, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE VALLEY VIEW AND FOREST TRAIL SITE FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.

WE LOOKED AT IT IN TERMS OF MAYBE IT'S A MULTI-USE SPORTS FACILITY, MAYBE IT'S A MIDDLE SCHOOL SITE.

BUT THE REALITY IS THAT THE VALLEY VIEW FOREST TRAIL SITE IS NO LARGER THAN THE CURRENT HILL COUNTRY SITE.

IT ALSO HAS A PROBLEM WHERE THERE'S A FLOODPLAIN THAT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE SITE.

THE DRAINAGE IS GOING TO THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE.

YOU'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN THAT DRAINAGE BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES, AND SO IT'S ALMOST A CHOICE, DO YOU BUILD ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER? HOLLY MENTIONED VALLEY VIEW CAMPUS HAS SOME OF ITS OWN CHALLENGES.

BUT THE OTHER THINGS ARE, IF YOU TORE IT DOWN AND BUILD A BRAND NEW CAMPUS, YOU STILL HAVE A DISCONNECTED PLAYFIELD THAT SITS FURTHER BACK IN THE SIDE AND INTO THE WOODS.

AS WE AS A COMMITTEE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE THINGS OF SAYING, WE WANT TO HIT THESE KEY COMPONENTS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING ON ANY OF THESE, IT KEPT LEANING US BACK TO THE FOREST TRAIL SIDE OF SAYING, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE AND MEET ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE DESIRE FOR CREATING AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND EQUAL FACILITATION ACROSS ALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, AND THE FOREST TRAIL SITE JUST WORKS BETTER IN THAT REGARD.

>> MAKES SENSE. WELL, THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN, SERIOUSLY.

YOU ALL DID A GREAT JOB.

YOU DID THE BEST WORK POSSIBLE IN THIS AREA.

NOW I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE OTHER SIDES OF IT ABOUT THE FINANCES AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT YOU GAVE US A GREAT PLAN TO WORK OFF OF.

I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I LOVE THE REVENUE-GENERATING PIECE AS WELL BECAUSE I THINK THAT MEETS THE MOMENT AS WE'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO CONTINUE AND INVEST IN THE DISTRICT FINANCIALLY.

THANK YOU AND A GREAT JOB TO ALL AND THE COMMITTEE.

>> THANK YOU, JOHN. WE'LL GO TO CATHERINE, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO DIANE.

>> OH, BOY, I MIGHT BE THE LONER HERE, BUT I'M NOT VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

I REALIZE THERE'S A STRATEGY HERE, AND IT'S A BIG ONE.

THE STRATEGY INCLUDES BONDING, IT INCLUDES FACILITY REHABILITATION, IT INCLUDES THE CONCEPTS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ABOUT ENROLLMENT IN OUR DECLINING ENROLLMENT, THAT WE'VE GOT AGING FACILITIES THAT ARE REQUIRING INCREASED MAINTENANCE DOLLARS FOR US.

BUT I HAVE TO THINK THAT THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING ON THE HEELS, THAT WE HAVE AN M&O BUDGET DEFICIT RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT A VIDOR THAT'S NOT BEEN TAKEN OFF THE TABLE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I GATHER, TRULY, AND THE DEVIL IS ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS, THAT THERE IS A LOT OF UPDATES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN OUR EXISTING CAMPUSES TO EVEN BRING THEM UP TO THE STANDARD THAT EANES FAMILIES EXPECT AND THAT'S EXPENSIVE.

BUT WHEN WE START THINKING ABOUT EXPENSIVE AT WHAT COST? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TEARING DOWN TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND COMPLETELY REBUILDING THEM.

I'M JUST GOING TO THROW A WILD NUMBER OUT THERE.

LET'S SAY THAT COSTS $30 MILLION TO DO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THEN WE ARE SAYING THINGS LIKE, WELL, WE'RE EXPECTING THAT WE WILL HAVE, I'LL USE THE WORD POSITIVE SYNERGIES, IN OUR MAINTENANCE AND UTILITY FEES.

WELL, WE JUST LOOKED AT OUR BUDGET NOW, AND OUR MAINTENANCE COSTS RIGHT NOW RUN US ABOUT $11 MILLION A YEAR.

WE HAVE 11 CAMPUSES CURRENTLY.

NEXT YEAR AFTER WE CLOSE VALLEY VIEW, BUT THEN OPEN UP THE TLC, WE'LL STILL HAVE 11 CAMPUSES.

THAT'S ABOUT $1 MILLION A CAMPUS.

HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD YOU HAVE TO SAVE IN YOUR MAINTENANCE AND UTILITIES TO BE ABLE TO TAKE UP TO TELL TAXPAYERS, HEY, GO BUILD THE $30 MILLION BRAND NEW CAMPUS? I GET THAT THERE'S POTENTIAL SAVINGS, BUT THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE PRETTY BIG SWINGS FOR ME IN ORDER TO USE THAT AS A REASON TO GO DO THIS.

I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT IF WE SAY THERE'S A NEED TO GO REBUILD A CAMPUS, THAT ALSO SAYING THAT THERE'S POSITIVE FINANCIAL SYNERGIES, I'M NOT REALLY SAYING THAT ISN'T A REASON TO DO IT.

I THINK IN ORDER TO GET THIS THROUGH TO OUR COMMUNITY,

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I THINK WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME AT THIS IN A VERY DIFFERENT STRATEGY.

WHEN WE SAY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WE TALK ABOUT A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR THE WORK YOU ALL HAVE DONE, I THINK THIS IS A WHOLEHEARTED STRATEGY OF GETTING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE TO COME IN AND LOOK AT WHAT THESE CAMPUSES LOOK LIKE AND LOOK AT HOW AGING THEY ARE.

THIS IS REALLY WILD, BUT GO AND LOOK AT THE PARKING LOTS, LOOK AT THE CONCRETE, HOW IT'S CRACKING, LOOK AT THE AGING CAFETERIAS WHERE EMPLOYEES ARE WORKING.

I REALLY THINK IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS WORK, WE HAVE TO NOT USE THE OPERATING SAVINGS AS A REASON.

HERE'S THE OTHER THING I'M STRUGGLING WITH RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REVENUE AND REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES.

WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLOSING EANES ELEMENTARY, POTENTIALLY REFURBISHING THE EANES ELEMENTARY CAMPUS TO GO BUILD A NEW CDC.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS WE'RE TALKING.

MAYBE WE'RE TALKING 200 STUDENTS AT A CDC.

MAYBE THOSE PARENTS PAY $500 A MONTH.

THAT'S, PER MONTH, 1.2 MILLION.

WELL, WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST TO REFRESH EANES ELEMENTARY? WILL THAT COST MAYBE $10 MILLION? I REALIZE IT'S A COMPLICATED QUESTION HERE, BUT AGAIN, HERE'S THE OTHER THING, DO WE KNOW IF CDCS ARE A PROFITABLE ENTITY FOR US RIGHT NOW? TO SAY, WELL, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GO INVEST, I'M GOING TO THROW A NUMBER OUT, $10 MILLION TO GO REFRESH EANES ELEMENTARY, AND MAYBE WE'D SEE $1.2 MILLION FROM 200 LITTLE KIDS IN A FACILITY RIGHT THERE, THAT'S AN EIGHT-YEAR ROY EASILY TO BE ABLE TO RECOUP YOUR MONEY.

DO WE KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT THE CDCS ARE PROFITABLE OR WHEN WE GET INTO THE DETAILS, COULD WE SAY, WELL, ACTUALLY, MAYBE THE CDC, IF WE EXPANDED, IT WOULDN'T BE PROFITABLE, MAYBE IT WOULD BE AN OPERATING LOSS FOR THE DISTRICT, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS? THEN MAYBE WE ACTUALLY MAKE OUR DEFICITS WORSE.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT EXPANDING THE CDC IS A REVENUE OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THESE ARE NOT QUESTIONS, THESE ARE CATHERINE WALKER BRAND NEW TRUSTEE STATEMENTS.

I'M REALLY WORRIED. THESE ARE REALLY BIG PLANS.

BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T LINED THESE PLANS UP WITH FINANCIAL ANALYSIS, WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT SPENDING ANOTHER YEAR ON THIS, MAYBE LONGER TO PREPARE FOR 2026 BONDING.

ONE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY WILL ABSORB.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VIDOR.

THERE'S A BIG EDUCATIONAL PROCESS THAT GOES AROUND WITH THIS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU ALL HAVE SPENT THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR AND A HALF WORKING ON THE PROJECT, KUDOS TO THE NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS AND THE TOURS AND TAKING TIME OFF WORK TO GO AND EXPLORE AND ACTUALLY GET IN THERE AND GO SEE.

MY OLD MANAGEMENT HAD SAYS WHEN IN DOUBT, GO SEE, AND YOU DID.

YOU ACTUALLY WENT OUT TO THE FACILITIES AND YOU WENT LOOKING AROUND, SO KUDOS TO YOU.

YOU'RE NOT JUST TALKING ARBITRARY THINGS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REAL-LIFE THINGS.

BUT I THINK WE ARE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO HOLD THE HAND OF THE COMMUNITY AND WALK THEM THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

BUT I ALSO HAVE TO THINK THAT MAYBE THE OLD WAY WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE ISN'T THE WAY WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THE OLD WAY WAS WE HAD ENVISIONINGS, OR FORM THIS LONG-RANGE FACILITY PLAN AND THEN MOVE IT OVER TO A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WORK WITH A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR A YEAR.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO START COMMUNICATING.

AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, TIME IS JUST TICKING AND THE TIME IS TICKING.

I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO GET IN FRONT OF THESE THINGS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

I'M WONDERING, I KNOW THIS SOUNDS WEIRD, HOW DO WE ACTUALLY SPEED UP OUR PROCESS? MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO DO A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

MAYBE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WILDLY DIFFERENT AND HAVE OPEN NIGHTS OF THE CAMPUSES AND GET THE COMMITTEE ON BOARD AND THEN HAVE YOUR FINANCE TEAM COME AND SAY, HERE'S ACTUALLY WHAT WE CAN AFFORD AND START PRIORITIZING THAT WAY.

I JUST THINK THE OLD WAY WE'VE DONE THIS PROCESS IN THE PAST, GIVEN THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE AND HOW IMPORTANT SOME OF THESE WON'T WORK THIS TIME.

I'M SETTING THAT OUT THERE.

>> IN YOUR TIME ON THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHAT ARE SOME LESSONS THAT YOU'VE LEARNED OVER THAT TIME TO MAKE THIS PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT?

>> WHAT I'M THINKING IS THAT IT'S NOT WHAT I LEARNED ON THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE BECAUSE IF I'M BEING HONEST, I WAS GOING THROUGH SO MANY PERSONAL THINGS THAT I DID NOT MAKE ALL THE CALLS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE AND IT WAS ALSO RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID.

BUT I'VE GONE BACK AND I'VE LISTENED TO A LOT OF THOSE THINGS AND I'VE HEARD THE DISCUSSIONS, AND I JUST KNOW HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES FOR ALL THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR,

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I REALLY THINK THAT IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING TRANSFORMATIONAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, IT'S A TRANSFORMATIONAL PLAN, WE MIGHT NEED TO CONSIDER DOING IT IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY THAN WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

>> A FEW OF YOUR COMMENTS ON COMMUNITY HANDHOLDING AND INVITING THEM TO COME AND SEE.

I THINK THAT IS A KEY THING THAT WE NEED TO DO AS WE LOOK TOWARDS MOVING A PROJECT LIKE THIS FORWARD, IS GETTING THE COMMUNITIES ABSOLUTE BUY-IN.

MAYBE THAT IS ADDRESSING THINGS IN CERTAIN WAYS THROUGHOUT A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE POTENTIALLY THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSES, THROUGH COMMUNITY AWARENESS NIGHTS WHERE THEY COME AND SEE CAMPUSES.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAID, WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS.

WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES OF LETTING THE COMMUNITY SEE THIS ARE SOME OF THE PLANS THAT WE'D LIKE TO IMPLEMENT SO THEY CAN PUT A FACE TO THE BOND, SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT THEY'D BE LOOKING AT.

I LOVE SOME OF THAT IDEAS THAT YOU SHARED ABOUT COMMUNITY HANDHOLDING AS WE GO FORWARD.

I'LL JUST SAY THIS, AS PARENTS OF EANES KIDS, AND AS FORMER STUDENTS AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT MADE UP THIS LONG-RANGE PLANNING COMMITTEE, IS WE DIDN'T VIEW OUR KIDS' EDUCATION AS A BUSINESS PROPOSAL.

WE DIDN'T VIEW IT IN A WAY WHERE WE NEEDED TO SEE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT FROM A $1 STANDPOINT, IT WAS A CAREER SAFETY EDUCATION STANDPOINT.

I THINK THAT'S THE MISSION, A BIT OF WHAT A SCHOOL DISTRICT SHOULD DO, A LITTLE BIT OF A MISSION OF WHAT WE AS VESTED COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT SH ALSO DO.

BUT WITH THE RIGHT IDEA OF USING A RETURN ON INVESTMENT, MAYBE THE RETURN ISN'T A DOLLAR AMOUNT, MAYBE THE RETURN IS WHAT WE GET AS A COMMUNITY.

I LIKE THE APPROACH THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE BECAUSE I THINK IT YIELDS A MORE EFFICIENT APPROACH WHEN WE GO TOWARDS A BOND ADVISORY.

IT YIELDS A MORE EFFICIENT RESULT HOPEFULLY WITH A VOTE ON A BOND ONCE WE'VE COME TO THAT DOLLAR NUMBER OR WHERE WE WANT TO LAND.

BUT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT, WHEN WE DISCUSS THE EDUCATION OF OUR KIDS IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT AND BUSINESS TERMS, I THINK THAT THOSE TERMS HAVE TO BE MODIFIED SLIGHTLY AS OPPOSED TO A PROFIT AND LOSS SHEET.

SOMETIMES THOSE TERMS DEAL A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH CHILD SAFETY.

THEY DEAL A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH EXTRACURRICULAR OPPORTUNITIES.

AND THE REVENUE, THERE'S NO WAY ON EARTH US LEASING OUT A SOCCER FIELD FOR A SATURDAY MORNING IS GOING TO MAKE UP $10 MILLION OR WHATEVER YOU SAID IT WAS.

IT JUST WON'T. BUT IT WILL GIVE A COMMUNITY A CHANCE TO BE INVOLVED IN SOMETHING THAT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK TO FUND THOSE THINGS WITH COMMUNITY MONEY WITH A BOND, POTENTIALLY. REALLY GOOD POINTS, THOUGH.

>> JUST ONE MORE THOUGHT. BECAUSE AGAIN, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND OUR PROCESS IS LONG.

THE ABILITY TO TURN OVER THROUGH THE COMMITTEES IS A LONG PROCESS.

I HAVE TO THINK THAT OUR NEAREST NEIGHBORS, LAKE TRAVIS, DRIPPING SPRINGS, ARE BOTH DOING MASSIVE RENOVATIONS OF THEIR CAMPUSES AS WELL.

EANES IS IN A SITUATION WHERE WE NEED TO ATTRACT FAMILIES TOO.

BUT I HAVE TO THINK THAT THE CONTRACTING COMPANIES, THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS, THE CONSTRUCTION FIRMS THAT SPECIALIZE IN SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY FULLY OCCUPIED WITH OUR TWO NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST.

THAT ALSO MEANS FOR ME THAT OUR CONSTRUCTION COST, THE LONGER WAIT, WAIT, TIME VALUE OF MONEY IS TRULY GOING TO BE IMPACTFUL IN THE COST OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

MAYBE THAT IS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

[INAUDIBLE] ARE WE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR THE NEXT YEAR? I'M ACTUALLY THINKING, I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE A YEAR BEFORE WE MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON WHAT WE NEED TO GET WORKING ON NOW, EVEN IF THERE'S A WAY TO CUT THIS INTO TRANCHES ON WHAT DO WE WANT TO TRY AND MAKE A DECISION ON IN THREE MONTHS THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH FOR A BOND PACKAGE IN NOVEMBER.

I DON'T KNOW. OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK IN? CHRIS SCOTT SAID THAT WE HAD $70-ISH MILLION LEFT OVER IN THE 2023 BOND MONEY.

IS THERE SOMETHING WE COULD DO WITH THAT MONEY TODAY TO GET GOING ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, SO WE'RE NOT WAITING UNTIL 2026?

>> I'M GOING TO TRY AND ANSWER EVERYTHING THAT'S IN MY HEAD.

I THINK IF TOM CAN PROBABLY GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION ON ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND THE COST OF OPERATING THESE SCHOOLS.

ABSOLUTELY, THE CONCEPT WOULD BE BUILT IN THAT OPERATING FEWER NEWER SCHOOLS, SCHOOLS THAT WERE BUILT IN 2026, 2027 IS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN A SCHOOL THAT WAS BUILT IN 1978.

HE CAN PROBABLY TELL YOU MORE ON THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO DO THIS WORK SOONER.

MY PERSONAL OPINION WAS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO IN MANY CASES.

BUT THE REASON YOU HAVE A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS FOR OVERSIGHT AND TRANSPARENCY.

IN THE PAST WHEN THE DISTRICT DID NOT HAVE A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE,

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THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND I THINK KIM WAS ON THAT SECOND ONE, WAS FORMED AFTER A FAILED BOND TO GIVE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT AND TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY.

IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS.

AS FAR AS MOVING 2023 BOND MONEY FORWARD, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, WOULD BE A DECISION THAT WOULD LIE HERE IN THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US.

>> CHRISTIE, MAYBE YOU COULD COMMENT.

IF IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL BOND, WE CAN'T DO CERTAIN THINGS WITH THAT BOND MONEY FROM THE LAST ONE.

>> WE HAVEN'T SPENT ALL THE MONEY, BUT WE HAVE PROJECTS TO SPEND ALL THE MONEY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WE HAVE I BELIEVE ABOUT 4-5 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE'VE EARNED ON INVESTMENTS THAT IT'S UNALLOCATED.

>> BUT EVEN BEYOND THAT, THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T VOTE TO BUILD A NEW SCHOOL IN 2023.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING THAT WASN'T SUPPORTED BY THE BOND REFERENDUM.

>> ANYTHING ELSE, CATHERINE? WE'LL GO TO DIANE.

>> THANK YOU. AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN ALL OF THESE MEETINGS ALL ALONG.

I DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT OTHERS DO AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE QUESTIONS YOU'VE POSED SO FAR.

I THINK YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB SUMMARIZING WHAT THE PROCESS WAS AND HOW YOU LANDED, WHERE YOU HAVE LANDED WITH THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT AND THE REPORT.

I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO AND DIG INTO THE REPORT IF THEY HAVEN'T AND THEY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.

WE HEARD THE WORDS COMMUNITY AND REVENUE GENERATION A LOT, AND I THINK THAT THOSE ARE TWO KEY WORDS TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE CONTINUE FORWARD.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT A BIT.

AGAIN, THIS WAS A GREAT WORK PRODUCT.

IT WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED YOU FOR, AND IT REALLY HELPS US THINK ABOUT WHAT MEANS OF A FUTURE LOOKS LIKE, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.

WE SEE TECHNOLOGY CHANGING DAILY, AI IS CHANGING DAILY, AND EDUCATION IS GOING TO LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT IN THE NEXT 5-10 YEARS OR EVEN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULD SIT BACK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CRYSTAL BALL.

WE NEED TO BE MOVING FORWARD.

FOR THAT REASON, I ENVISION A PROCESS OF TRANSFORMATION FOR THIS DISTRICT THAT HAS CHECKPOINTS BUILT IN.

WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE THAT SO MUCH, BUT THIS IS A MULTI-PHASED THING, AND A LOT OF PIECES ARE INTERTWINED.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE DO THAT, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PAUSE AND RE EVALUATE THE PLAN THAT WE COME UP WITH PERHAPS IN THE FALL OR THE SPRING AND AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD THROUGH THE YEARS, MAYBE WE HAVE A NEW PROCESS.

WE TALK ABOUT THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WHY IT CAME ABOUT, MAYBE THINGS NEED TO LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I AGREE WITH YOU, CATHERINE.

I FEEL A LITTLE MORE SENSE OF URGENCY AND GET FRUSTRATED SOMETIMES WITH HOW SLOWLY THINGS MOVE.

MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN LAUNCH A BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, QUITE FRANKLY.

I THINK WE ALREADY KNOW WHO THE KEY PEOPLE IN OUR DISTRICT ARE.

SOME OF THEM ARE SITTING ON THIS COMMITTEE AND ARE COMMITTED, SOME OF THEM ARE ON THE EXISTING BUCK AND MAYBE THERE'S A FEW MORE THAT WE MIGHT IDENTIFY, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF HUMAN CAPITAL IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I REALLY THINK WE NEED A MULTIFACETED.

I HEARD THAT TERM USED BY SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.

WE HEARD DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE VOICE THAT IN THE LAST MEETING, WE'VE HEARD IT ALL ALONG.

PEOPLE WANT TO BE VERY ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS, NEW TOOLS THAT WE HAVEN'T USED BEFORE.

I ENVISION A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING IN PARALLEL AND FEEDING BACK INTO EACH OTHER IN SOME ITERATIVE PROCESS.

MY HOPE IS THAT OVER THIS NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, I DO HAVE A THOUGHT ABOUT POTENTIAL NOVEMBER, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF THIS NEXT SCHOOL YEAR WHEN WHEN I'M OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, I HOPE THAT I AM FREQUENTLY ENCOUNTERING PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TALK ABOUT A BOND AND THAT IT'S JUST A PERVASIVE TOPIC IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IF I'M IN THE LIBRARY OR IF I'M AT A CHAMBER EVENT, OR IF I'M AT A BOOSTER CLUB MEETING, OR IF I'M AT THE CITY OF WESTLAKE HILLS, EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE TALKING ABOUT IT, AND HOPEFULLY, MOSTLY EXCITED ABOUT IT, BUT ASKING CHALLENGING QUESTIONS SO THAT WE HAVE A BOND THAT PASSES.

IT NEEDS TO BE KNOWN THAT WE'RE LISTING, AND I THINK WE'VE MADE THAT CLEAR THAT THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT CHOICE GOING FORWARD.

ONE IDEA THAT CAME TO MIND BECAUSE REVENUE GENERATION CHALLENGE HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORTH,

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PREVIOUS MEETINGS IS THAT MAYBE ON THAT BACK, WE NEED A REVENUE GENERATION SUB-COMMITTEE.

I AGREE WITH YOU, CRAIG, REVENUE GENERATION IS NOT THE MAIN DRIVER OF THIS, BUT IT'S A NICE SIDE BENEFIT OF IT.

I THINK THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE ATTENTION OVER THE YEARS, DEPENDING ON STATE FINANCE, OF HOW MUCH REVENUE WE NEED TO GENERATE AND HOW MUCH WE CAN JUST LET THE COMMUNITY USE THESE SPACES, AND THAT WILL BE AN ONGOING DECISION AND IT MIGHT MOVE BACK AND FORTH OVER THE YEARS.

BUT IT'S NICE TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT POTENTIAL.

MY DRIVE, OF COURSE, IS TO ADDRESS ADVANCING ACADEMIC NEEDS AS I'VE ALLUDED TO EARLIER.

BUT ALSO THINK ABOUT EFFICIENCIES IN THE BUILDINGS, AND SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

ONE THING I THREW OUT AT ONE OF THESE MEETINGS WAS PURPLE PIPES, FOR EXAMPLE.

WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.

WATER IS SOMETHING THAT'S A HOT TOPIC IN THE CAPITAL RIGHT NOW.

THE PRICE OF WATER IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE GOING UP, FOR EXAMPLE.

RIGHT NOW WE SPEND A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ON WATER A YEAR IN THIS DISTRICT, AND WE SPEND $150,000 ON WASTEWATER.

IF WE CAN RECYCLE OUR WATER, AND THAT WOULD INVOLVE SOME MAJOR CONSTRUCTION.

YOU CAN'T JUST STICK PURPLE PIPES IN A WALL.

THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

WE SPEND $1.1 MILLION ON ELECTRICITY.

WE'RE TAPPING INTO SOLAR OPTIONS.

I JUST FEEL LIKE WE ARE A PIVOTAL POINT IN TIME WHERE WE NEED TO BE LOOKING FORWARD AND PLANNING FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS.

I ALSO CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT SCHOOL CHOICE IS HERE, AND WE ARE COMPETING FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.

WE HAVE HAD TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS THAT MAYBE HAVE ALREADY HURT US, BUT WE'VE MADE THOSE, AND WE NEED TO BE HAVING THAT LENS ON US AT ALL TIMES AND THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE ATTRACT PEOPLE TO OUR DISTRICT.

IT IS THROUGH THE ACADEMIC PROGRAMMING, OF COURSE.

BUT WE TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT OUR TEACHERS GET TO DRIVE PAST SOME REALLY BEAUTIFUL FACILITIES WHEN THEY COME HERE AND THEY HAVE TO COMMUTE TO GET HERE.

I JUST WANT EANES TO BE THINKING ABOUT HOW WE REMAIN THE EXEMPLARY DISTRICT THAT WE ARE, AND IT'S NOT JUST IN THE EDUCATION THAT WE PROVIDE, BUT HOW WE ENVISION WHAT A SCHOOL OF THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE.

I SEE EDUCATION SHIFTING EXPANDING, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT ALREADY FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION TO BEYOND.

WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE HISTORY GROUP AT THE LIBRARY AND ELLEN BALTHAZAR HISTORY GROUP WHO ARE TAPPING INTO THE RESOURCES AT THE LIBRARY TO LEARN AND WE COULD BE A PART OF ALL OF THAT.

I HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO THINK ABOUT THIS PROCESS OF HOW TO GET THIS BOND FORMED SMARTLY.

LIKE I SAID, JUST NEW WAYS OF TAPPING INTO THE COMMUNITY TO THE POINT OF A NOVEMBER BOND.

I THINK IT'S VERY WISE TO SAY THAT WE'VE HAD BONDS FAIL BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN PROPER INPUT.

I'M CURIOUS, THOUGH.

THE ONE THING FOR ME THAT STANDS OUT AS A NO BRAINER OF SORTS IS, I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOU THINK.

MAYBE, TOM, YOU'RE THE BEST TO ANSWER THIS ONE. PARKING GARAGES.

COULD WE SOMEHOW GET PARKING GARAGES ON NOVEMBER BOND? GREAT. I DON'T KNOW.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S ONE PERSON ASKING, TOM AYLER.

BUT I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT THAT.

I SEE NO REASON TO HOLD BACK ON PARKING GARAGES BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE PAIN POINT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I'D LIKE TO GET EXCITEMENT GENERATED, AND WE COULD USE THAT AS A LAUNCH PAD FOR ALL OF THE INTERESTING THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO.

THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR THE YES.

>> CAN I ADDRESS THIS?

>> SURE. PLEASE EXPAND.

>> THOSE PARKING GARAGES, THEY ARE SO CRITICAL TO THE ABILITY TO EXPAND THE HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS.

THE HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS ONLY HAS ROUGHLY AROUND 50 ACRES OF LAND, AND IT'S NOT ALL CONTIGUOUS.

AS YOU COMPARE TO OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS, WE WOULD REALLY SEE PROBABLY 80-85 ACRES OF PROPERTY.

WE'RE STARTING IN A DEFICIT OF 30 ACRES FOR THAT HIGH SCHOOL, AND THAT'S THE REASON THERE IS NO SURFACE PARKING ON THE SIDE, AND KIDS ARE PARKING A MILE DOWN THE STREET AND THEY'RE COMING TO SCHOOL AT 5:30 IN THE MORNING TO GET AS CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL AS THEY CAN BECAUSE THEY'RE A SOPHOMORE AND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE A CAR.

I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT, AND IT WAS SO FUN TO WORK WITH HER AND GET TO ENGAGE WITH HER, WHO DID AN ENTIRE RESEARCH PAPER AND AN ENTIRE BUSINESS PLAN ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF PARKING GARAGES AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

IT WAS REALLY EXCITING TO HEAR HER AND HER ENERGY ABOUT NOT JUST THE PARKING GARAGE,

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WHAT IF WE DO THIS FOR GAME DAY EVENTS, AND WHAT IF WE ACTUALLY PUT IN SOME RETAIL AND WE CREATE A COFFEE SHOP AND WE'VE GOT THE WEST LAKE YOUTH CLUBS THAT ARE USING THE FIELDS? WHAT IF THAT THIRD LEVEL OF THE PARKING GARAGE WAS AN OBSERVATION DECK SO THE PARENTS DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO OVER THERE.

THEY JUST SIT HERE AND HAVE THEIR COFFEE.

THERE ARE THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING EVERYWHERE ABOUT THE PARKING GARAGES, BUT YOU CAN'T START EXPANDING THE BUILDING UNTIL YOU BUILD PARKING AND CAN GET ALL THOSE CARS OUT OF THE WAY TO ALLOW THE EXPANSION TO HAPPEN, TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION LAY DOWN AREAS, CONSTRUCTION ACCESS, AND THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES.

IF YOU COULD MOVE THE PARKING GARAGES UP, IT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP EXPEDITE THE OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE HIGH SCHOOL BY DOING THOSE.

WE DID TALK ABOUT NAMING RIGHTS OF PARKING GARAGES AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT I DON'T THINK YOU ALL MENTIONED, BUT THE PARKING GARAGES ARE PRETTY CRITICAL TO THE EXPANSION OF THE CAMPUS.

>> THANK YOU FOR EXPANDING ON THAT.

IT DID REMIND ME. I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.

THE PERMITTING HAS COME UP AS A QUESTION.

I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD BE JUMP STARTING AT LEAST THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR POTENTIALLY THE CEDAR CREEK WORK.

MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORT TO ACTUALLY FUND A FULL SCHOOL AND A BOND.

BUT COULD WE TACK ON SOME MONEY POTENTIALLY IN A NOVEMBER BOND THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THE LEG WORK TO LEAD UP TO THAT. IT'S A RISK.

YOU RISK THAT MAYBE THAT DOESN'T GET PASSED.

AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING VERY HARD TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY, GET THEM ON BOARD, BUT I WOULD SEE IF THAT COULD SAVE SOME TIME FOR US AS WELL.

>> YES, IT COULD.

BUT TO JUMPSTART THE PERMITTING PROCESS, WE HAVE TO HAVE COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS IN HAND TO SUBMIT TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW.

THAT WOULD MEAN COMPLETE DESIGN AND DOCUMENTATION OF CEDAR CREEK ELEMENTARY OR THE PARKING GARAGES.

THE PARKING GARAGE SCENARIO AT THE HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE WEST BANK DRIVE IS A DIVIDER LINE WHERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST BANK DRIVE, YOU'RE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND ON THE NORTH SIDE, YOU'RE IN WESTLAKE HILLS.

YOU GOT TWO DIFFERENT PERMITTING ENTITIES.

THE ONE MAJOR PARKING GARAGE, THE PERMITTING TIME IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER.

BUT BOTH OF THOSE ARE DOABLE, IT WOULD REQUIRE FUNDING DESIGN AND DOCUMENTATION.

>> DO YOU HAVE A BALLPARK IDEA OF HOW MUCH THE DESIGN WORK FOR CEDAR CREEK WOULD BE?

>> I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER.

I THINK I MAYBE BRIEFLY TALKED TO JEFF, BUT I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE GOT TO LAURA.

>> JAMES, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO WRAP THINGS UP IN JUST A MINUTE AND SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT.

DIANE, YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS.

YOU ARE SO FAR OUT IN FRONT OF ME AT LEAST.

FOR ME, THIS PRESENTATION WAS ABOUT US RECEIVING THIS INFORMATION, PROCESSING IT, ASKING SOME QUESTIONS, BUT WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR READY TO MAKE ANY DECISION.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE ME A MINUTE TO CATCH UP WITH YOU.

YOU'LL GIVE ME TWO MINUTES TO CATCH UP.

WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, LIKE I SAID, A LONG TIME AGO.

THERE WAS SOME TALK AMONGST THE BOARD AT THE TIME, THAT MAYBE THE COMMUNITY WASN'T READY FOR THIS, THAT THEY WEREN'T READY FOR THIS TRANSFORMATIVE BOND.

WE MADE A DECISION AS A BOARD AT THAT TIME THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WERE GOING TO GO AFTER, AND IT WASN'T BECAUSE WE WANTED NICE, PRETTY THINGS.

THEY WEREN'T WANTS.

WE DIDN'T ASK OUT TO PUT TOGETHER A BUNCH OF PRETTY NICE, FLUFFY THINGS.

THESE ARE NEEDS.

THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK NICE BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

BUT REALLY, ULTIMATELY, THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE NEED.

IT WAS A STEP FORWARD.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT WAS A RISK, BUT IT WAS A CALCULATED DECISION TO GO AFTER

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IT WAS GOING TO ALLOW US TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN TEACHERS.

IT WAS JUST GOING TO OVERALL BUILD STRONGER.

WE HAD THAT FOUNDATION, CRAIG, THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

WE'VE GOT THE IT FOUNDATION OF EANES, AND THIS WAS JUST GOING TO TAKE US A STEP FARTHER.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A REALLY LONG PROCESS, AND WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE EXACT STEPS AT THIS POINT.

WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

WE NEED HEAVY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

CATHERINE, WE NEED HEAVY FINANCIALS.

ABSOLUTELY. I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE.

WE NEED TO REALLY SEE HOW THESE THINGS ARE GOING, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO COST, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO IMPACT OUR M&O.

REALLY EVERY PROJECT THAT WE'VE GONE AFTER WELL, FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS AT, WE'VE ALWAYS SAID, THEY NEED TO BE NET NEUTRAL AND WE CAN'T INCREASE OUR M&O COSTS FOR THESE FACILITIES.

I BELIEVE EARLY ON WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL.

WE'VE GOT A TON OF WORK AHEAD OF US.

WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME.

WE HAVE TO DO THIS RIGHT.

WE MOVE SLOW.

WE'RE A GOVERNMENT ENTITY.

WE HAVE ALL THESE CRAZY RULES THAT WE HAVE TO WORK AROUND WITH POST MEETINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT MAY NOT HAPPEN AS FAST AS SOME PEOPLE LIKE OR WOULD WANT.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT RIGHT.

I THINK COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, FINANCES, AND JUST REALLY PUTTING IT ALL IN THERE AND GETTING IT RIGHT.

I WOULD LOVE TO GET UPDATES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, DR. ARNETT, ON THIS PROCESS SO WE CAN STAY INVOLVED.

FIRST MEETING, I STILL HAVE TONS OF QUESTIONS.

I HOPE THAT I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK SOME OF THOSE DEEPER QUESTIONS. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO JUST PUT OUT THERE THAT I HEAR YOU, LAURA.

I THINK BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, I AM A COUPLE OF STEPS AHEAD, SO I FULLY RECOGNIZE THAT.

I DO NOT WANT TO BE CAVALIER IN MOVING TOO QUICKLY, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S MAYBE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

AGAIN, PARKING GARAGE OR SOMETHING WE CAN ACCELERATE.

MY QUESTION, I GUESS, MAYBE FOR JAMES AND ALL OF US ARE, WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS, AND HOW DO WE DECIDE WHAT THOSE ARE? WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE OUR NEXT DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC JUST SO THAT WE CAN START TO THINK ABOUT, WHEN IS THE BACK GOING TO BE? I'LL THROW OUT ONE LESS THOUGHT.

IF SOMEHOW WE COULD BE COLLECTING BACK SUBMISSIONS OVER THE SUMMER, I THINK DR. ARNETT SAID, MAYBE GET THAT GOING RIGHT AFTER THE END OF THIS.

>> FRANKLY, THE FASTEST WAY OR THE EASIEST WAY TO EXPEDITE THAT PROCESS WOULD BE TO LOOK AT YOUR EXISTING MEMBERS OF THE LONG RANGE FACILITY PLANNING COMMITTEE, YOUR EXISTING MEMBERS OF THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, AND MERGE THOSE COMMITTEES.

IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH A COMMUNITY APPLICATION PROCESS, THAT'S GOING TO ELONGATE YOUR TIMELINE MORE THAN LIKELY.

WE KNOW THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE WILL FOCUS ON THESE THINGS DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, ESPECIALLY FROM MID JUNE THROUGH EARLY AUGUST, SO WE LOSE THAT TIME.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO EXPEDITE THIS, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO LOOK AT YOUR EXISTING MEMBERS TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE.

THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND TOO, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A NOVEMBER 2025 BOND.

WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND CERTIFY FOR THAT ELECTION BY EARLY AUGUST.

AGAIN, THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO GIVEN THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO ENTER INTO A TIME PERIOD WHERE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IN JUNE, PEOPLE'S FOCUS IS NOT ON AUGUST.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I GUESS THE FIRST STEP IS DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO FORMULATE THE BACK.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS YOU HAVE THERE, JAMES? YOU HAVEN'T TALKED AT ALL, SO I'LL HAND IT OVER TO YOU.

>> I THINK SOME OF MY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS WOULD GO TO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.

I WANTED TO START REAL QUICK AND ASK TOM, WOULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT? YOU'RE A SEASONED PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECT WHO SPECIALIZES IN SCHOOLS BUT WHEN IT COMES TO EANES ISD, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THERE.

WOULD YOU JUST TAKE 30 SECONDS TO JUST TALK ABOUT YOUR INVESTMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY?

>> SURE. LONGTIME RESIDENT, TWO BOYS THAT WENT THROUGH THEIR ENTIRE EDUCATION HERE AT EANES ISD.

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IT IS THE EXACT REASON I MOVED HERE TO THIS DISTRICT BECAUSE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT THIS COMMUNITY DOES AND WHAT THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES FOR ALL OF US.

I'M SUPER PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.

IT'S BEEN A JOY WORKING WITH THIS COMMITTEE TO GET TO ENGAGE WITH OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT FEEL AS STRONGLY ABOUT THE EDUCATION AND WHAT HAPPENS HERE IN THIS SCHOOL SYSTEM.

AS CRAIG AND HOLLY MENTIONED, SOME OF US HAVE KIDS IN SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW, SOME OF US THAT WERE ON THE COMMITTEE WE WENT THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND ARE NOW PARENTS OF KIDS, SOME LIKE ME, HAD OUR FORMER OF PARENTS, BUT STILL TRYING TO BE ENGAGED WITH THE SCHOOL BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT.

I'VE SPENT 35 YEARS IN DESIGN AND ARCHITECTURE OF PUBLIC EDUCATION FACILITIES, PRIMARILY DONE A LOT OF COLLEGIATE WORK, BUT THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT WE CAN DO FOR OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.

THAT'S A MINUTE SNIPPET OF ME.

>> WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO ME YOUR CONNECTION TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT WE HAVE AN ARCHITECT ENGAGED WHO UNDERSTANDS EANES BECAUSE I LIKE TO SAY I BELIEVE IT THAT WE ARE DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE, AND THAT'S GOOD AND BAD.

WE HAVE CHALLENGES THAT COME ALONG WITH THAT.

I APPRECIATE YOU AND THE HELP YOU PROVIDED TO THE COMMITTEE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES IS OUR TEACHERS, A LOT OF THEM DON'T LIVE IN OUR DISTRICT.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO, OR THEY CHOOSE NOT TO, OR OTHER REASONS.

BUT MANY OF THOSE TEACHERS ARE DRIVING PAST BRAND NEW SCHOOL BUILDINGS THAT TOM PROBABLY DESIGNED TO GET TO OUR CAMPUSES, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF LOVE FOR THE BUILDINGS.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE PRIDE, AND CARE, AND SUCH.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT WE CAN ADMIT THAT WE'VE GOT SOME OLD BUILDINGS, WE'VE GOT SOME PROBLEMS. JUST AS MUCH AS BRINGING PEOPLE IN TO SEE THE CRUMBLING CONCRETE AND APPEALING PAIN, HOPEFULLY, WE DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH OF THAT, BUT BRINGING PEOPLE IN TO SEE DYSFUNCTIONAL SPACES OR SCIENCE CLASSROOMS THAT ARE 20% SMALLER THAN THE TEA RECOMMENDS OR DIFFERENT PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE, CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE ON OUR CAMPUSES JUST AS MUCH SEEING A BRAND NEW BUILDING WOULD PROBABLY OPEN A LOT OF PEOPLE'S EYES TO WHAT THOSE ARE LIKE.

I'VE HAD THE PROBABLY UNIQUE PRIVILEGE OF BEING IN BRAND NEW SCHOOL BUILDINGS ALL OVER THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THEY HAVE THINGS THAT OUR BUILDINGS DON'T HAVE.

THINKING ABOUT THE WAY THAT EDUCATION HAS MODERNIZED SINCE HILL COUNTRY OPENED IN 1975, AND IF YOU THINK IT OPENED IN 1975, IT WAS PROBABLY DESIGNED IN '74, AND THOUGHT ABOUT IN '73, AND CONCEPTUALIZED IN '72.

EDUCATION HAS CHANGED A LOT.

I THINK I WAS SITTING WITH ALAN IN WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT, IS THIS THE SPACE THAT OUR KIDS WILL LEARN IN IN 2050? IS THIS THE SPACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAND OVER TO THAT NEXT GENERATION OF KIDS? IT PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE.

WE'RE AT THIS POINT FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THIS AND GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS.

I WANTED TO ASK A COUPLE OF THINGS, HOLLY AND CRAIG, DID THE COMMITTEE HAVE FREEDOM TO REALLY THINK WIDE OPEN BECAUSE I HEARD AT SOME POINT THAT THERE WERE MEMBERS WHO MIGHT HAVE FELT LIKE THE BOARD HAD ALREADY COME TO A DECISION AND YOU WERE JUST GUIDING EVERYBODY TO DO WHAT THE BOARD WANTED TO DO.

I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE COULD GET SEVEN OF US TO AGREE TO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A WIDE-OPEN CANVAS.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE COMMITTEE HAD FREEDOM TO THINK?

>> I CERTAINLY DO. BY THE END, WE WERE 16 COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

LIKE I SAID, MANY OF US DID NOT KNOW EACH OTHER AT ALL BEFORE WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND MANY OF US CAME FROM VERY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND POINTS OF VIEW.

WE ALSO REPRESENTED EVERY DISTINCT SCHOOL IN THIS DISTRICT.

I THINK ANY TIME YOU TAKE A GROUP OF 16 PEOPLE THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH STRANGERS AND TRY AND COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE LONG-TERM PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT FOR EANES ISD FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF ROBUST CONVERSATION.

WE HAD THREE ARCHITECTS IN ADDITION TO TOM ON THAT COMMITTEE.

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I THINK EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD THINK OF WAS ON THE TABLE UNTIL IT WASN'T, INCLUDING, I'LL USE MOVING HILL COUNTRY TO THE VALLEY VIEW FOREST TRAIL SITE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO WHY THAT'S NOT IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

ULTIMATELY, WE DECIDED THAT WHERE HILL COUNTRY IS IS WHERE HILL COUNTRY SHOULD BE, BUT WE HAD SO MUCH CONVERSATION AROUND THAT, AND AT SOME POINT, THE CONVERSATION WHICH WAS TRUE OF MANY OF OUR CONVERSATIONS BECAME WHERE WE WERE ASKING MORE QUESTIONS AND CREATING MORE PROBLEMS THAN WE WERE SOLVING.

THAT FOR US WAS DIRECTION TO TAKE BACK, AND REGROUP, AND RETHINK THROUGH THINGS.

BUT I DON'T THINK EVEN COMING TO THAT RECOMMENDATION OF FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING I THOUGHT OF AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS AND CONVERSATIONS STARTED TO HAPPEN, BUT IF YOU WOULD ASK ME EIGHT MONTHS AGO IF THAT WOULD BE ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, I WOULD HAVE SAID NO WAY.

THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH 16 PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO THINK THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

BUT THROUGH NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS AND LOOKING, AND RE-LOOKING, AND RETHINKING ABOUT IT, IT WAS A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION.

>> IT WAS ALMOST TOO MUCH FREEDOM IN THE BEGINNING A LITTLE BIT, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY OF US HAD SO MANY DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE WE WANTED THAT TO GO.

THAT WHAT WE EVENTUALLY ENDED UP DOING WAS HONING IN SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE BROKE OFF INTO SUBCOMMITTEES.

WE INVITED DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ON THE AGENDA BEFORE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO DISCUSS VERY SPECIFIC TOPICS WITH THOSE PEOPLE.

I THINK THE COMMITTEE CAME UP VERY EARLY ON, EVEN IN THE DEMOGRAPHICS DISCUSSION, WHICH WAS MAYBE OUR FIRST OR SECOND MEETING EVER, THERE WERE SOME CONCLUSIONS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DRAW BECAUSE THEY MADE SENSE.

THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, PROBABLY HAS THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE THE BOARD WAS GUIDING THOSE DECISIONS, MAYBE THE COMMITTEE DIDN'T HAVE VERY MUCH INPUT BECAUSE THEY JUST MADE SENSE.

THE COMMUNITY ALSO PROBABLY THOUGHT THOSE THINGS WERE GOING TO BE ON THE TABLE BECAUSE THEY MADE SENSE, AND THEY WERE AT LEAST.

NOW, THOSE WERE DECISIONS THAT ARE HARD DECISIONS FOR US TO DECIDE TO AGREE TO AS A COMMITTEE.

THEY WERE DECISIONS THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY MAKE SENSE, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY WERE EASY DECISIONS OR ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE TREMENDOUSLY POPULAR ACROSS THE BOARD.

BUT EVERYBODY'S HAD THAT SAME THOUGHT PROCESS GOING FORWARD.

I LIKE TO THINK THAT WE AS A COMMITTEE MELD IT IN THE SAME WAY THAT OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING OUR TRUSTEES WHO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY, ALSO HAD SOME OF THE SAME THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THAT WOULD EXTEND AS WE START TO LOOK AT A BOND, THAT SAME THOUGHT PROCESS, THOSE COMMON SENSE, THIS HAS TO HAPPEN, WE ALL KNOW IT DOES, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD, WOULD ALSO JOIN THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.

WE SAW THAT HAPPEN IN VIVO AS WE WENT THROUGH OUR 18-MONTH, TWO YEARS, BUT I THINK THAT THE IDEA THAT THE BOARD INFLUENCED THE COMMITTEE OR THAT THE COMMITTEE INFLUENCED THE BOARD IS JUST A GREAT REPRESENTATION THAT THE COMMUNITY SAW THE PROBLEMS AND THE COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER.

IN NO WAY DID WE EVER FEEL LIKE WE WERE BEING PUSHED IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER.

IT NATURALLY DEVELOPED INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU SEE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT PERSPECTIVE.

ONE OF THE THINGS A GROUP OF US TOURED HIGHLAND PARK SCHOOLS, I THINK THAT WAS RIGHT BEFORE COVID, SO IT MUST HAVE BEEN WHAT WAS THAT, 2020, WE WENT EARLY MARCH OR LATE FEBRUARY OF 2020 TO TOUR HIGHLAND PARK, AND THEY HAD GONE THROUGH A PROCESS LIKE THIS OF REBUILDING SEVERAL ELEMENTARIES ADDRESSING A CAMPUS CONFIGURATION CHANGE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, THAT IS A VERY RICH, FULL OF PRIDE COMMUNITY.

I'M NOT SAYING WE AREN'T. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY KEPT HEARING WAS, YOU CAN'T TEAR THIS DOWN BECAUSE I LOVE THESE THINGS ABOUT THIS BUILDING.

MAYBE, TOM, YOU COULD TALK TO THIS.

ARE THERE WAYS TO CAPTURE THINGS LIKE THE SHOP COURT OR THE COMMONS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT MAYBE HAS A SPECIAL FEELING TO IT IN HONORING THAT IN A NEW CONSTRUCTION? I'M BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE THINGS ABOUT THESE BUILDINGS THAT WE LOVE.

THEY'RE QUIRKY, THEY'RE STRANGE, THEY HAVE INSUFFICIENT SPACE IN SOME CASES AND WEIRD SPACES IN OTHER CASES, BUT THERE ARE THINGS WE DO LOVE ABOUT THESE BUILDINGS.

DO YOU CAPTURE SOME OF THAT, DO YOU TAKE THE COMMUNITY INPUT AND CAPTURE THAT IN DESIGNS FOR A NEW BUILDING?

>> YEAH, MOST CERTAINLY.

I WAS INVOLVED IN THE HIGHLAND PARK WORK.

IN THEIR SITUATION, THEIR CAMPUSES HAD SOME FAIRLY HISTORIC VALUE

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IT WAS HOW DO YOU RECREATE THAT, BUT IN A MODERN VERNACULAR? THERE WAS A PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THAT AND WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO ESTABLISH IS WHAT IS THE CULTURE OF YOUR SCHOOL, AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT ABOUT THE CULTURE, AND HOW DO YOU FUNCTION AND OPERATE? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT WAS INSTEAD OF SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT HOLISTICALLY ALL OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND TRY TO MAKE A DETERMINATION OF WHAT THOSE WERE GOING TO BE, WE SAID, NO, WE WANT TO MEET WITH EACH AND EVERY CAMPUS BECAUSE EACH AND EVERY CAMPUS HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE WAY OF DOING THINGS.

THERE WERE SOME COMMON THREADS AND COMMON THEMES, PARTICULARLY AROUND OUTDOOR LEARNING, OUTDOOR TEACHING, CONNECTIVITY TO NATURAL DAYLIGHT, AND SOME OF THOSE SPACES.

AS WE PRODUCE SOLUTIONS AND WORK AS A COMMITTEE, YOU'LL SEE A COMMON APPROACH, BUT IT IS STILL IN RESPECT OF WHAT THAT INDIVIDUAL CULTURE IS ON THAT CAMPUS.

THE HIGH SCHOOL, CERTAINLY, THERE'S COMPONENTS OF IT PARTICULARLY THE SHOP COURT IS SOMETHING YOU HEAR CONTINUOUSLY.

CURRENTLY, WE HAVE THAT PRESERVED WHILE IT'S JUST A CONCEPT THAT WE'VE PRODUCED.

WE HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS A HISTORIC COMPONENT OF THE CAMPUS.

THERE'S OTHER KEY FEATURES, PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE CERAMICS LAB, WORLD CLASS CERAMICS PROGRAM HERE AND THERE'S BEAUTIFUL CERAMIC WORK THAT'S ON DISPLAY THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS THAT YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, I CAN'T JUST KNOCK THAT OFF OR KNOCK IT DOWN.

WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE CUT THAT OUT AND THEN RE-PURPOSE IT IN THE NEW FACILITIES.

SAME THING HAPPENS IN THE OLD GYM AREAS WHERE YOU'VE GOT SOME HISTORIC COURT SPACES, AND MAYBE THERE'S EVEN SOME OPPORTUNITY TO SELL SOME OF THAT COURT, CUT IT UP INTO ONE FOOT SQUARES.

BUT CERTAINLY REALLY WORKING WITH THE CULTURES AND REALLY BRINGING THE COMMUNITY INTO THOSE DESIGN DECISIONS SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND HOW ARE WE PRESERVING THAT THAT COMPONENT, AND NOT LOSING IT, ELEVATING IT IN THE NEW DESIGN.

WHETHER THAT BE AESTHETICS, TYPICALLY IT'S NOT AESTHETICS.

TYPICALLY, IT IS SOME COMPONENTS OF HISTORY THAT, HEY, WE WANT TO SALVAGE THIS.

IT'S REALLY JUST WORKING HANDS-ON AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH THE CAMPUS LEVEL TEAMS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE ARE.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO BE IN TUNE WITH GOING FORWARD.

IF THERE ARE ELEMENTS IN THESE CAMPUSES THAT ARE REALLY IN THE HEARTS OF THE COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT WE CAN CAPTURE THOSE IN SOME WAY, OR AT LEAST HONOR THEM IN SOME WAY IN A NEW BUILDING.

ONE OF THE THINGS AND THIS MAY START TO GO TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS ASKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PROCESS AND SUCH, AND, TOM, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME HERE, BUT IF THE BOARD WERE TO GUIDE AND SAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANT TO BE M&O NEUTRAL.

>> EITHER ON A CAMPUS LEVEL, BUT PROBABLY MORE LIKELY COLLECTIVELY, ONCE THIS WHOLE PLAN IS DONE, WE WANT TO BE M&O NEUTRAL.

IS THAT SOMETHING OUTSIDE COULD CONCEPTUALLY WE TRY TO DO THAT? IS THAT GUIDANCE THAT COULD BE PROVIDED? I GO BACK TO THE 2019 BOND, IN ORDER TO GET THE SWIM FACILITY BUILT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE PROMISED THE BOARD, I WASN'T ON THE BOARD, BUT THE BOARD PROMISED THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT WOULD BE AN NEUTRAL SITE AND THE WAY THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE WAS BY THE FACILITY RENTAL OR THE INCOME THAT THAT FACILITY WAS GOING TO GENERATE THROUGH A PARTNER? LIKEWISE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO SAY THAT THESE GOING INTO THREE STORY BUILDINGS AND REALIZING SOME OF THESE DEFICIENCIES, AT LEAST AT MOST OF THE CAMPUSES, IS GOING TO HELP US BE M&O NEUTRAL.

IS THAT GUIDANCE THE BOARD CAN GIVE?

>> I THINK SEARCHING M&O NEUTRAL, IT'S NOT A REALITY.

I'D LOVE TO BE THAT AT MY HOUSE, YET I STILL HAVE TO MOW THE LAWN AND I HAVE TO DO THINGS, THERE'S CONSTANT MAINTENANCE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CONSTANT UPKEEP AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN AT YOUR CAMPUSES.

NOW, GETTING TO MAYBE ENERGY NEUTRAL OR NET ZERO ENERGY, YOU'RE ALREADY DOING THAT BY PUTTING PHOTOVOLTAICS AND ON

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>> LET ME CLARIFY REAL QUICK.

>> WHAT I MEAN IS, IF WE'RE SPENDING 10 MILLION ON MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TODAY FOR THESE CAMPUSES, COULD WE GET TO A POINT THAT WE ADD OR REBUILD THESE FACILITIES, AND WE'RE STILL AT 10 MILLION PERHAPS INFLATION ADJUSTED OR SOMETHING AT THAT POINT? IS THAT A REALITY TO GUIDE ON?

>> I THINK CERTAINLY, IMMEDIATELY, IT IS.

YOU'RE GOING TO IMMEDIATELY TAKE AWAY MUCH OF THE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY DEALING WITH IN MANY CAMPUSES.

PARTICULARLY, MATERIALS AND PRODUCT SELECTIONS THAT TYPICALLY GO INTO SCHOOLS TODAY, AS AN EXAMPLE, POLISHED CONCRETE, IS SOMETHING THAT'S WAX-FREE.

THIS MATERIAL WAS SELECTED BECAUSE IT'S A WAX-FREE PRODUCT.

THERE USED TO PROBABLY BE VCT TILE HERE THAT YOU'RE WAXING AND UPKEEPING.

YOU CONTINUALLY TRY TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE PRODUCTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE LONG LIFE EXPAND, BUT TAKE AWAY SOME ASPECT OF MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP TO THOSE ITEMS. BY BUILDING NEW, CERTAINLY BIG TICKET ITEMS LIKE ROOF REPLACEMENTS OR MECHANICAL REPLACEMENTS, AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME MECHANICAL SYSTEMS THAT ARE NEARING THE END OF THEIR LIVES WITHIN YOUR CAMPUSES, THOSE ARE COMPLETELY CORRECTED AND WILL BE MAINTENANCE, NOT MAINTENANCE-FREE, BUT WILL NOT BE ON A REPLACEMENT CYCLE FOR ANOTHER 25 YEARS.

THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE'LL PROBABLY REDUCE.

THE OTHER THING IS THE ENERGY CONSUMPTION OF A NEW BUILDING JUST IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN, THE INSULATION SYSTEMS, THE TIGHTNESS OF THE BUILDING.

THERE'S AIR BARRIERS TODAY THAT HELP KEEP BUILDINGS FROM BEING DRAFTY.

WELL, NONE OF YOUR BUILDINGS HAVE AIR BARRIERS ON THEM.

THEY WERE BUILT BEFORE THERE WAS AN AIR BARRIER.

YOU'VE GOT HIGHER ENERGY USAGE JUST BECAUSE YOU CONSTANTLY HAVE AIR AND MOISTURE THAT'S INFILTRATING AND YOUR SYSTEMS HAVE TO KEEP PERFORMING TO KNOCK THAT OUT.

NEW CAMPUSES ARE GOING TO HAVE NEW SYSTEMS AND NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE GOING TO DRIVE THE ENERGY USAGE DOWN, JUST BECAUSE OF THE NEW SYSTEMS AND THE TECHNOLOGIES, NOT TO MENTION NEW ENERGY CODES AND THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE BUILT TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD THAN WHAT YOU HAVE.

>> I TAKE MY OLD CAR TO THE MECHANIC AND HE'S LIKE, I CAN KEEP THIS THING RUNNING FOREVER.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MONEY, AND IT'S GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE.

YOU CAN BUY THE NEW CAR AND GET ALL THE LATEST SAFETY FEATURES AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE, AND IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT.

WE CAN KEEP THESE CAMPUSES OPEN FOREVER, BUT IT'S A MATTER OF MONEY, AND THE MAINTENANCE WILL ONLY GO UP OVER TIME.

WE WILL SPEND MORE IN BONDS.

REPAIRING, REPLACING, AND FIXING THESE UP, THEN WE WOULD IF WE REBUILT THEM.

I REALIZE THAT'S WAY DOWN THE ROAD FOR THE BOARD IN THE BACK AND EVERYBODY TO DECIDE, BUT JUST AN ELEMENT OF THAT.

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? I DO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT FORMING A BACK AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

I AGREE THAT THIS IS A BOARD DECISION, NOT MY DECISION, BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF SELECTING PEOPLE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE VOLUNTEERING TO HELP US.

I'M ALWAYS A FAN OF BRINGING IN NEW PEOPLE WHEN WE CAN BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE NEW MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO GET INVOLVED AND BRINGING THEM IN AND BRINGING THAT INVOLVEMENT IN IS GOOD.

BUT IF THE DESIRE IS TO MOVE QUICKLY, THEN USING EXISTING VOLUNTEERS MAY BE THE WAY TO GO.

I DO AGREE THAT I AM CONCERNED.

MY CONCERN IS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN ON A BACK, THAT THEY'VE HAD THEIR HANDS FULL WITH $100 MILLION BOND.

IF THIS IS MULTIPLE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS, I WORRY THAT EVEN A TIMELINE THAT FINISHES AT IN FEBRUARY OR SO, IN ORDER TO HAVE A BOND IN MAY, IT MAY BE TOO BIG A JOB.

THEREFORE, MAYBE IT TAKES ALL 16 OF WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW ON LONG RANGE, PLUS MORE FROM BACK AND DIVIDING IT INTO DIFFERENT COMMITTEES.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW. LIKE YOU SAY, WE'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THIS DIFFERENTLY THAN WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, AND IT'S A BIGGER THING TO CONSIDER THAN WE'VE EVER CONSIDERED BEFORE, BECAUSE ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT WE CONSIDERED IN A $100 MILLION BOND, ALL THE TECHNOLOGY REFRESHERS AND THE MAINTENANCE STUFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THESE BUILDINGS, BUT BEFORE THEY GET REBUILT, IS STILL GOING TO BE THERE, AND WE'RE STILL GOING TO NEED TO HAVE THAT IN CONSIDERATION AS WELL.

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I DON'T KNOW HOW FULL THE AGENDAS ARE.

I THINK WE HAVE TWO FULL BOARD MEETINGS LEFT BEFORE THE SUMMER BREAK.

WE WILL NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

PERHAPS THE THOUGHT TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE AND WHO ARE LISTENING IS THE WILLINGNESS TO CONSIDER THE WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE AND WORK ON IT BACK AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

WITH THAT, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

IT'S ONLY 10:40.

I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GO TO MIDNIGHT, BUT DO APPRECIATE ALL VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE AND WHO ARE LISTENING AND COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE PUT INTO THIS.

I ATTENDED SEVERAL MEETINGS.

I ENJOYED HEARING THE WORK THAT YOU WERE DOING AND THE FACT THAT YOU WERE ON THE CAMPUSES AND SEEING THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GOING FORWARD TOO. THANK YOU.

>> OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS FOR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

[10.1 Election of Officers for the Eanes ISD Board of Trustees]

YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SIT THERE? REAL QUICK, AS A REMINDER TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

REAL QUICK, AS A REMINDER ON THIS.

OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE REQUIRES US TO DO AN OFFICER ELECTION EVERY TIME WE SWEAR IN NEW CANDIDATES.

WE WILL DO THAT NOW TONIGHT.

I HAVE ENJOYED SERVING MY COMMUNITY AS AN OFFICER ON THIS BOARD.

BUT IT'S TIME FOR ME TO MOVE ON.

I DON'T WANT TO BE PRESIDENT AGAIN.

I APPRECIATE THE TIME.

4.5 YEARS ON EXEC HAS BEEN ENOUGH FOR ME.

I'VE BEEN GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING JUST A BOARD MEMBER AGAIN, AND SO I'D LIKE TO NOT SEEK AN OFFICE ON THE BOARD AGAIN, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT ALL HAVE GIVEN ME OVER THE YEARS, BUT IT'S TIME FOR ME TO TAKE A LITTLE BREAK FROM THIS.

THE WAY WE'LL DO THIS IS WE'LL TAKE A NOMINATION FOR EACH OFFICE.

WE'LL START WITH PRESIDENT, WE'LL TAKE NOMINATIONS.

WE'LL VOTE ON THE FIRST NOMINATION WE RECEIVE.

IF THAT PERSON GETS FOUR OR MORE VOTES, THEY WILL BE THAT OFFICE.

THEN WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT.

WE'LL START WITH PRESIDENT, GO TO VICE PRESIDENT, AND THEN TO SECRETARY.

ONCE WE FINISH, AND WE HAVE A NEW EXEC, WE WILL STAND UP AND PLAY MUSICAL CHAIRS FOR A MINUTE AND MOVE AROUND.

I WOULD LIKE TO START BY ASKING FOR A NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT. KELLY.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE KIM MCMATH FOR PRESIDENT.

>> DO I TAKE A SECOND ON THAT? YES. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND FROM LAURA.

MOTION FROM KELLY, SECOND FROM LAURA.

ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? WHAT'S THE TIME WE WILL VOTE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? ARE YOU WILLING?

>> IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WON'T.

I WILL SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JAMES, FOR ALL OF YOUR SERVICE HERE.

YOU HAVE BIG SHOES TO FILL.

THAT'S THE WAY YOU SAY IT. I WOULD BE HONORED TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING.

ALL MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? WELL, NO, WE SHOULDN'T ASK FOR OPPOSE.

[LAUGHTER] KIM, CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME TO THE PRESIDENCY.

I'M NOT GOING AWAY. I'LL BE HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THEN I WILL CONTINUE, AND WE WILL MAKE OUR MOVE IN JUST A MOMENT.

DO I HAVE A NOMINATION FOR VICE PRESIDENT? KIM.

>> I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE LAURA CLARK AS VICE PRESIDENT.

>> MOTION OR NOMINEE BY KIM, SECONDED BY KELLY.

DO I HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR VICE PRESIDENT? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF LAURA FOR VICE PRESIDENT, SAY, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NO. STOP ASKING FOR OPPOSED.

[LAUGHTER] WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW.

THEN FINALLY FOR SECRETARY, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR SECRETARY?

>> I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOMINATE KELLY MARWILL AS SECRETARY.

>> MOTION BY KIM. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

[03:20:11]

DO I HAVE ANOTHER NOMINATION?

>> I WAS GOING TO MAKE A COUNTER MOTION.

>> COUNTER MOTION.

>> SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR MRS. DIANE HERN.

>> THE PROCESS IS TO TAKE A FIRST MOTION OR FIRST NOMINEE AND THEN TAKE THE SECOND.

I WILL TAKE YOUR SECOND NOMINEE FOR DIANE.

SECOND? SECOND BY LAURA.

WE'LL VOTE ON KELLY FIRST AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON DIANE.

ANY COMMENT REAL QUICK? DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF KELLY, INDICATE, AYE.

WE HAVE FOUR FOR KELLY, SO KELLY WILL SERVE AS SECRETARY.

LET'S PLAY MUSICAL CHAIRS FOR A MOMENT AND RESORT US AND TAKE OUR NEW SPOTS.

>> I KNOW IT IS. BUT IT'S CHANGED. THAT'S OKAY.

>> THEN THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS A DISCUSSION ON A REQUEST

[10.2 Request to Approve Staff Compensation for 2025-26]

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE MOTION BY KELLY.

>> I RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AUTHORIZE THE SUPERINTENDENT TO IMPLEMENT THE DISTRICT COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS PLAN FOR THE 2025/'26 SCHOOL YEAR AS FOLLOWS.

WE'RE DOING THE 2%. MOTION 1, APPROVE SALARY INCREASE OF 2% ACROSS ALL EMPLOYEE CATEGORIES.

MOTION 2, APPROVE MAINTAINING THE DISTRICT CONTRIBUTION TO EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AT 473 PER MONTH.

>> IS THERE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IN THE MOTION?

>> I CAN FINISH. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES RESERVES THE RIGHT TO AMEND THE 2025/'26 COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS PLAN AFTER THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR AS REQUIRED BY LAW OR LEGISLATION, ADMINISTRATIVE RULE, OR IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DISTRICT.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> IS THERE A DISCUSSION? I'VE GOT TO GET A PIECE OF PAPER.

I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE LAURIE LEE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> [INAUDIBLE] CADENCE OF THIS. THANK YOU, LAURIE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING. DO YOU WANT TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE COMPENSATION?

>> ACTUALLY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WANTED TO JUST BRING BACK AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE DID ON MAY 6TH.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE MADE THE MOTION, AND WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE.

WE'RE ALWAYS APPRECIATIVE OF OUR BOARD SUPPORTING OUR STAFF.

WE REALLY ARE STILL IN THAT SPOT WHERE MOST DISTRICTS ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT WHAT TO PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR, AND ALSO THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO DO FOR US.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT WHATEVER WE DO TONIGHT, WE MAY BRING BACK TO YOU IN AUGUST BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE.

THIS 2% WE WOULD EXPECT WOULD BE FOR ALL CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYEES,

[03:25:04]

WE WOULD HAVE OUR 2% FOR EVERYONE ELSE.

THERE WOULD BE A SAVINGS IN THERE TO THE DISTRICT FROM CHRIS'S BUDGET.

I THINK THIS TALKS THROUGH THAT.

JUST LIKE WE SAID, WE ARE WAITING ON THE LEGISLATURE TO FINALIZE THOSE CHANGES AND THEN WE CAN BRING THOSE FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TOO.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU, LAURIE.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? JOHN.

>> LAURIE, WHAT WOULD BE THE DOWNSIDE IF WE WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT BOARD MEETING AND SEE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DOES AND THEN DECIDE THAT?

>> I THINK CHRIS IS GOING TO ANSWER THAT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BUDGET PROCESS IN ORDER TO HAVE HIS BUDGET APPROVED.

>> IN SHORT, THE ISSUE IS THAT THERE'S A TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH ADOPTING THE BUDGET, AND POSTPONING WOULD PUT US TO THE POINT WHERE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ADOPT.

LET'S SEE. EDUCATION CODE 44.02, YOU HAVE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET BEFORE THE NEW FISCAL YEAR BEGINS ON JULY 1.

HISTORICALLY, WE'VE DONE THAT AT THE LAST MEETING IN JUNE, WHICH IS JUNE 24TH.

SOME OF THE STEPS THAT COME BEFORE THAT IS 10 DAYS BEFORE THAT MEETING HAS TO BE POSTED IN THE NEWSPAPER, WHICH PUTS US TO JUNE 14TH, AND WE NEED TO GET THAT NOTICE TO THE NEWSPAPER, FOUR DAYS BEFORE THAT, WHICH PUTS JUNE 10TH, WHICH IS YOUR NEXT BOARD MEETING.

THE REALITY IS ONCE YOU MAKE THE DECISION, IT'S GOING TO TAKE MY OFFICE ROUGHLY SEVEN WORKING DAYS TO GET EVERYTHING READY TO GO, PREPARED TO PUBLISH.

IT'S A TIME ISSUE MORE THAN ANYTHING.

IF YOU WANTED TO CALL ANOTHER MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, I BELIEVE THE LAST DAY THAT THAT COULD WORK AND STILL MAKE JUNE 24TH HAPPEN WOULD BE MAY 29TH, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'LL KNOW ANYTHING MORE ABOUT WHAT THE LEGISLATURE INTENDS TO DO ON MAY 29TH THAN WE DO TODAY.

>> LAURIE. JOHN, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I DID. JUST A COUPLE MORE.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> NO PROBLEM. ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAVE DECIDED AT THIS POINT IN OUR COMPARABLE SET HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS?

>> NO, I DO NOT.

>> THEN PRESUMABLY, CHRIS, THEY HAVE THE SAME DEADLINES.

THEY JUST HAVE A MEETING COMING IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

>> IF THEY HAVE A JULY 1 FISCAL YEAR, THEN THEIR DEADLINE IS FAST APPROACHING AS WELL.

IF THEY HAVE SEPTEMBER 1 FISCAL YEAR, THEN THEY CAN WAIT IT OUT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> WE'RE IN A TIGHT FISCAL ENVIRONMENT. WE ALL KNOW THAT.

I'M LOOKING HERE AT RAISING THE PAY.

I REMEMBER LOOKING BACK AT WHAT WE SAW LAST TIME.

WE WERE FIFTH WITH OUR YEAR 0.

THEN I ASKED FOR THIS, AND THANK YOU FOR PULLING IT TOGETHER.

IF YOU WERE CURIOUS, HERE I ASKED FOR THIS TODAY, AND THIS WAS TO SEE THE CHANGE AS WE WENT FROM YEAR 0 TO YEAR 5.

I DID THE MATH EARLIER. I BELIEVE WE DROPPED TO NINE STARTING IN YEAR 1, AND THEN EVENTUALLY WE HIT 12 BY YEAR 5.

IN THE SPIRIT OF SAVING A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, MY THOUGHT WAS, WHY DO WE NEED TO GIVE A RAISE TO FOLKS WHO HAVE NEVER WORKED HERE? WE'RE ALSO PRETTY COMPETITIVE IN YEAR 0.

WHY NOT KEEP IT EXACTLY WHERE IT IS IN YEAR 0? THEN I THOUGHT WE COULD GIVE A 1% RAISE TO YEAR 1, A ONE AND A HALF TO YEAR 2, AND THEN START THE 2% IN YEAR 3.

THAT SAVES US A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.

WE'RE ALSO MORE COMPETITIVE AT THE YOUNGER, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THE LONGER SOMEBODY TEACHES, THE BETTER THEY ARE AT IT.

IT WEIGHTS THE 2% TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR YEAR 3, AND SAVES US A LITTLE BIT.

[03:30:01]

I RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO SAVE US SOME MONEY, AND I PRESUME THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN YEAR 0 AREN'T NECESSARILY COUNTING ON A RAISE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T STARTED WORKING HERE YET.

LAURIE, YOUR REACTIONS TO THAT.

>> WELL, I THINK THAT MAYBE NOT COUNTING ON A RAISE, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW PEOPLE DO REALLY PAY ATTENTION AND SHOP THOSE SALARY SCHEDULES.

MY STAFF, EVERY DAY, WHEN WE'RE CALLING AND MAKING OFFERS, THERE IS THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE FOR NEXT YEAR.

OUR GRADUATES ARE VERY SAVVY, SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING FOR DISTRICTS WHO PAY HIGHER STIPENDS, WHO HAVE OTHER BENEFITS THAT THEY'RE REALLY SHOPPING AROUND NOW.

ALSO, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT A THIRD, 34% OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE RIGHT THERE AT THAT 0-5.

WE HAVE A VERY YOUNG WORKFORCE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HONOR THOSE TEACHERS.

FIRST YEARS IN TEACHING ARE VERY DIFFICULT, AND SO WE WANT TO DEFINITELY KEEP THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

HOPEFULLY, IF WE DO RECEIVE THAT MONEY THAT'S HIGHER FOR THOSE OTHER YEARS, 3-5, AND FIVE AND ABOVE, THEN WE COULD AT LEAST COMPENSATE THOSE 0, 01, AND 2-YEAR TEACHERS, TOO.

>> LOOK, I WORK IN TALENT. THIS PAINS ME.

I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, BUT WE'RE PAYING FOR THIS RAISE ENTIRELY FROM THE FUND BALANCE.

I REALLY REGRET THAT MY FIRST BOARD MEETING, I WISH WE HAD CUT MORE LEADING UP TO THIS.

I WILL FORECAST RIGHT NOW.

THIS WILL BE THE LAST YEAR I VOTE FOR RAISE FROM THE FUND BALANCE, UNLESS THERE IS SOME RARE EXCEPTION.

THERE ALWAYS COULD BE.

I HOPE GOD FORBID ANOTHER COVID HITS OR SOMETHING HAPPENS, BUT IT WILL BE SO HARD TO REBUILD THIS FUND BALANCE IN THE FUTURE, AND WE NEED IT, AND TO PAY FOR A RAISE ENTIRELY FROM THE FUND BALANCE IS NOT A VOTE I EVER WANT TO MAKE AGAIN.

I RECOGNIZE WE CAN'T CHANGE THE WHOLE FUNDING SYSTEM RIGHT OFF THE BAT IN ONE MEETING AND RAISES ARE IMPORTANT, AND THE BEST THING WE HAVE GOING FOR US IN MEETINGS, BESIDES THIS AMAZING COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN AND THE PARENT INVOLVEMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE STAFF, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR STAFF, BUT WE PUT THE WHOLE DISTRICT AT RISK WHEN WE DO RAISES WHERE WE'RE DIGGING INTO THE FUND BALANCE.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MIDDLE GROUND HERE WHERE WE CAN SHOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO START ACTING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE CAN'T KEEP DOING THIS.

WE JUST CAN'T.

I WISH THE STATE WOULD STEP UP AND FUND US FAIRLY, BUT THEY WON'T.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TIGHTEN OUR BELTS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND SOME WAY FORWARD, BUT WE CAN'T FUND RAISES FULLY FROM THE FUND BALANCE FOREVER.

WE JUST CAN'T. TO ME, I VALUE TALENT SO DEEPLY, AND I'M TRYING TO FIND A LITTLE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, KNOWING THAT WE CAN'T MAKE DRASTIC CHANGES ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT ON MAY 24TH FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, IT'S A LITTLE TOO SHORT NOTICE.

I'M LOOKING FOR WHAT WE CAN DO.

THEN MY HOPE IS A YEAR FROM NOW, WE DO THE HARD WORK SO THAT WE CAN STILL FIND A WAY TO GIVE RAISES WITHOUT HAVING TO FUND IT FULLY FROM THE FUND BALANCE. I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.

>> IF I COULD ASK THE BOARD TO BE MINDFUL THAT ABOUT 40% OF OUR STAFF ARE IN THE CLASSIFIED CATEGORY, THEY'RE PAID ON AN HOURLY BASIS.

I THINK THIS CONVERSATION IS PRIMARILY ABOUT OUR TEACHERS, WHICH CERTAINLY WE RESPECT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO RESPECT OUR HOURLY STAFF, AND MANY OF THEIR RATES ARE FAR BEHIND THE CURVE, EVEN MORE SO THAN OUR TEACHERS.

THAT 2% APPLIES TO OUR HOURLY CLASSIFIED STAFF AS WELL.

THAT'S WHY I THINK WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN SOMEWHAT RELUCTANT TO LOOK AT A GRADUATED INCREASE BECAUSE TO APPLY THAT TO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND TO APPLY DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES TO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES IS NOT ALWAYS EASY TO DO, AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT VIEWED AS EQUITABLE.

>> THANK YOU.

[03:35:02]

>> NEXT, WE HAVE LAURIE.

>> I DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME OUR PAY INCREASE, THE HISTORY OF OUR INCREASES.

DID WE LOOK AT THAT AT THE LAST MEETING? I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A QUICK PEEK AT THAT.

>> LAURIE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR?

>> YES. THIS DOESN'T GOES BACK AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD.

I THINK THERE WAS A YEAR WE DIDN'T GIVE AN INCREASE.

JAMES, 2020.

WE DIDN'T GIVE AN INCREASE.

>> THAT WAS PART OF OUR TIME.

>> THAT WAS 2020.

>> THAT WAS RIGHT BEFORE WE CAME ON BOARD.

JOHN, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I REALLY DO. I THINK 2020, ALSO MAYBE THAT WAS THE YEAR, 2021, WE INCREASED OUR HOURLY STAFF AT A DIFFERENT PERCENTAGE.

I THINK WE INCREASED THEM AT A HIGHER PERCENTAGE TO GET THEM UP BECAUSE WE WERE UNDERPAYING THEM.

THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT, I HEAR YOU.

A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAID, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH.

I THINK A 2% IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS IS A TOUGH ONE, Y'ALL, BECAUSE IT IS BEING FUNDED BY THE FUND BALANCE, BUT SORRY.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS.

I'LL BE VERY HONEST.

I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS 2% INCREASE.

I WISH WE COULD WAIT. I WISH WE COULD PUSH IT.

I THINK EVEN PUSHING IT, WHICH WE CAN'T DO, IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE BECAUSE EVEN BEST-CASE SCENARIO FOR THE LEDGE DOESN'T LOOK GREAT.

HONESTLY, THE BEST CASE SCENARIO FROM THE LEDGE DOESN'T IMPACT THAT 40% OF OUR STAFF THAT ARE ON HOURLY.

THEY WOULDN'T BE INCLUDED ANYWAY IN THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

THEIR INCREASES WOULD COME OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP FOR ME.

>> JAMES AND DIANE.

DIANE.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR REQUESTING THIS DATA FOR US, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE A MORE NUANCED APPROACH TO A VERY TOUGH SITUATION.

I WAS NOT AT THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE I WAS AT A ROBOTICS BANQUET, BUT I DID LISTEN, OF COURSE, AFTERWARDS, AND I HEARD MENTION, I BELIEVE IT WAS BY YOU, JAMES, ABOUT THIS CONCEPT OF THINKING ABOUT A PACKAGE INSTEAD OF JUST THE SALARY.

WHAT WE DON'T SEE HERE ARE THE MONEY THAT WE PUT IN TOWARDS HEALTH CARE.

IT'S HARD FOR ME TO REALLY LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND FULLY UNDERSTAND THE COMPETITIVENESS BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

YOU'VE ALSO MENTIONED STIPENDS, LAURIE.

IS IT CORRECT TO SAY THOUGH, THAT IN YEAR 0-5 OUR TEACHERS AREN'T TYPICALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF STIPENDS, OR IS THAT AN INCORRECT STATEMENT?

>> I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE COACHING, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF STIPENDS.

THERE ARE SOME NEW TEACHERS WHO MIGHT BE AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL WHO ARE TAKING ON CLUBS OR GROUPS AND RECEIVE SOME TYPE OF STIPEND, BUT YES, AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, YOU WOULD NOT NECESSARILY SEE THAT.

WE DO HAVE A SPED STIPENDS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE, BUT NOT AT THE TYPICAL K THROUGH FIVE POSITIONS.

>> THEN, DR. ARNETT, YOU ALSO MENTIONED THIS DIFFICULTY BETWEEN THE HOURLY EMPLOYEE VERSUS TEACHERS, AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN RAISES DIFFERENTLY BETWEEN THOSE TWO GROUPS? FOR EXAMPLE, DO THE NUANCED TEACHER PAY AND THEN LOOK AT HOURLY AS ONE CHUNK.

[03:40:03]

I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE HOURLY PAY AS MUCH.

>> IT HASN'T BEEN DONE. AS LAURIE SAID, THERE HAVE BEEN YEARS WHERE WE RECOGNIZE THAT OUR HOURLY RATES WERE SIGNIFICANTLY BEHIND THOSE IN OUR COMPARISON GROUP, AND WE MIGHT HAVE GIVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE IN SOME CASES TO TRY TO LEVEL THE FIELD.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DO CONSISTENTLY, BUT IT HAS BEEN DONE.

>> THEN WE HAVE HAD OUR TASB REVIEWS EVERY THREE OR FOUR YEARS, AND THERE'S BEEN LITTLE ADJUSTMENTS.

YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR DURING THOSE REVIEWS, OR RECOMMENDED, I SHOULD SAY.

>> I HAVE A VERY HARD TIME DIGGING INTO THE FUND BALANCE HERE.

I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE A LITTLE MORE NUANCE.

I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF 2% ACROSS THE BOARD WHEN WE'RE DIGGING INTO THE FUND BALANCE.

I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO BE LOOKING WITH A SCALPEL.

WE TALK ABOUT THE SLIDE HERE IN THE SCALPEL, WE HEAR ALL THOSE THINGS.

I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK WITH THE SCALPEL AND ACT WITH A SCALPEL.

JAMES, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK?

>> A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS REAL QUICK.

DO YOU WANT ME TO GO?

>> YES.

>> A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS REAL QUICK.

LEANDER HASN'T VOTED ON A COMP AMOUNT, BUT THEY DID APPROVE A RETENTION BONUS.

THE WAY THEY WORDED IT WAS THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT BE EMPOWERED TO GIVE, I THINK $1,000 RETENTION BONUS TO A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE AND A 500 TO A PART-TIME.

THEN THEY PUNTED ON THEIR COMP.

I THINK WHAT THEY SAID WAS THEY WOULD EMPOWER THE SUPERINTENDENT TO ENACT WHAT THE LEGISLATURE PASSES BASICALLY IS WHAT THEY SAID.

I REALIZE, CHRIS, THAT THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WITHOUT HAVING AN AMOUNT, THERE'S NO BUDGET.

THIS IS 86% OF OUR BUDGET, AND WITHOUT AN AMOUNT, YOU WOULD ASSUME IS ZERO, I BELIEVE, IF WE DID THAT, IF WE SAID, WE EMPOWER THE SUPERINTENDENT TO DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS DEDICATED TO STAFF COMPENSATION THAT THE LEGISLATURE GIVES OR WHATEVER THAT WORDING WOULD BE, BUT YOU WOULD ASSUME ZERO IN YOUR BUDGET.

>> YES, YOU COULD SET IT AT ZERO TONIGHT.

WE COULD BUILD THE BUDGET BASED ON A ZERO, NO RAISE, AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU IN AUGUST ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THE LEGISLATURE'S PASSED, AND YOU COULD OBVIOUSLY MEET WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS, AND IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, YOU CAN DO THAT AT THAT TIME AS WELL.

>> LAURIE, WOULD YOU SPEAK FOR A MOMENT ABOUT HOW THAT IMPACTS RECRUITING AND RETENTION?

>> WELL, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, OUR NEW HIRES ARE DEFINITELY SHOPPING AROUND.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR POSITIONS.

THEY'RE TALKING TO US AND THEN THEY'RE WAITING FOR ANOTHER OFFER.

I THINK IF WE VOTE, IT DOES HELP, OBVIOUSLY.

BUT I ALSO THINK THAT OUR STAFF, WHEN THEY GO AWAY FOR THE SUMMER, THEY DO LIKE TO KNOW THE PLAN.

WE CAN ALWAYS LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE DECIDED UNTIL AUGUST, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT DOES AFFECT A MORALE FOR OUR STAFF.

>> I THINK IT AFFECTS ALL OF OUR MORALE TO BE IN THIS TERRIBLE FINANCIAL POSITION THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.

I THINK IT'S TERRIBLE.

I ALSO, AM VERY HESITANT TO BE THE FIRST DISTRICT TO ANNOUNCE.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF OUR CONVICTION IS 2% AND WE'RE ALL SITTING HERE NODDING OUR HEADS ON 2%, THEN I'M FINE WITH THAT.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD STEAM AHEAD.

BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME HESITATION HERE, AND I WONDER IF IT FEELS LIKE WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHERE SOME OF THESE OTHER DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO START TO COME IN.

I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT THERE ARE SOME DISTRICTS ON THAT LIST.

I DON'T WANT TO BE MEAN, BUT THERE ARE SOME MORE CHALLENGING DISTRICTS TO WORK IN THAN EANES ISD AND THEY DO HAVE TO PAY MORE IN ORDER TO ATTRACT TALENT.

THAT'S MY BELIEF.

I DON'T THINK ALL DISTRICTS ARE CREATED EQUAL.

THEREFORE, US COMING IN WITH A NUMBER SOMETIMES REQUIRES THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS TO COME IN WITH A BIGGER NUMBER BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO IN ORDER TO ATTRACT TALENT,

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LET ME BOTTOM LINE IT AND SAY, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH A MOTION THAT SAYS, WE EMPOWER THE SUPERINTENDENT TO ENACT THE COMPENSATION THAT THE LEGISLATURE ENDS UP PROVIDING OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

OF COURSE, REVISITING AND SAYING, IF THE LEGISLATURE, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING AND THIS DIES BEFORE THE END OF THE SESSION, AND THEN WE GO INTO SPECIAL AND ALL THAT STUFF.

THAT'S HAPPENED A LOT.

BUT IF WE END UP WITH THE LEGISLATURE SAYING PUTTING ALL OF THAT TEACHER MONEY BACK INTO THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE ZERO COMP THEN BASED ON THAT LANGUAGE THAT I JUST SAID.

WE WOULD NEED TO REVISIT THAT IN AUGUST, AND WE COULD REVISIT AT THAT POINT AND DECIDE ON A 2% ON OUR OWN.

I GUESS I'M SAYING IS THIS IS NOT THE FINAL TIME WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

THERE ARE OPTIONS.

THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE THE BUDGET WOULD REFLECT POTENTIALLY A 0% INCREASE AND HIRING AND RETENTION MIGHT BE CHALLENGING.

BUT I AM OPEN TO ENTERTAINING THAT IF THAT'S THE BOARD'S DESIRE.

>> I HAVE KELLY AND THEN LAURA.

>> I KNOW THEY'RE BUILDING A LOT OF NEW SCHOOLS AROUND US.

THEY'RE NOT BUILT YET, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE ONES THAT JUST GOT APPROVED.

BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT US RETAINING OUR TEACHERS, AND IT'S NOT JUST IF WE DON'T GIVE A RAISE THIS YEAR, IT JUST SNOWBALLS EVERY YEAR AS TO HOW WE GET BEHIND IN THOSE RAISES.

AND THIS IS ALSO A RAISED FOR ALL THE STAFF, NOT JUST THE TEACHERS, WHICH IS WHAT THOSE BILLS WERE LOOKING AT.

I'VE WORKED IN OUR SCHOOLS.

THESE ARE THE HARDEST WORKING, MOST PRIDEFUL PROFESSIONALS I'VE EVER KNOWN.

I FEEL HONORED TO GIVE THEM THIS RAISE.

>> THANK YOU, KELLY. LAURA.

>> IT'S LATE TO BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

CHRIS, HOW MUCH DOES A 1% RAISE COST US?

>> IT'S ABOUT 650 TO 700,000.

>> SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY TO 700,000.

SO I WOULD SAY MY ONLY CONCERN WITH EVEN BUDGETING A ZERO IS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO END UP AT ZERO BECAUSE THE STATES GOING TO FORCE SOMETHING.

SO WE WILL HAVE SOME COMPENSATION INCREASE THAT THE GOVERNOR WILL SIGN.

THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

I THINK CHRIS, YOU SAID LAST TIME THAT THE, I'M SO TIRED.

THE CSHB 2, THAT WHEN ALL THAT COMES OUT, WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THOSE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING, IT ENDS UP BEING ABOUT A 2% INCREASE.

>> THAT WAS HB.

>> SORRY, THAT WAS HB2.

>> CSHB HAS A DIFFERENT MECHANISM.

HB 2 WAS PRIMARILY INCREASING THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, AND THERE IS A MECHANISM IN LAW THAT SAYS THE CURRENT LAW SAYS 30% OF ANY INCREASE FROM THE BASIC ALLOTMENT HAS TO GO SALARIES, AND I BELIEVE IN HB 2, THEY BUMPED THAT TO 40%, WORKED OUT ROUGHLY TO BE ABOUT A 2% RAISE WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.

>> JAMES, I THINK YOU SAID FLUKERVILL LANDER.

I THINK WHAT THEY MUST HAVE DONE IS BASICALLY SAT OUT THIS DISCUSSION AND DIDN'T HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, AND THEN WHEN THE GOVERNOR SIGNED SOMETHING, THAT WILL BE THE NUMBER, THAT WILL BE THE INCREASE, AND IT WILL GO INTO PLACE AND THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO PUT THAT INTO PLACE.

I THINK THAT I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

I THINK THAT INSTEAD OF US TRYING TO GUESS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND PICK A NUMBER OUT OF THE AIR BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN'T.

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I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE, AND I KNOW LAURIE, THAT MEANS THAT STAFF ISN'T GOING TO KNOW RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE WE MIGHT NOT KNOW, REALLY, CHRIS, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO KNOW.

EVEN IF THEY SIGN IT, IT TAKES A WHILE FOR US TO ACTUALLY SORT OUT HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO GET.

>> WE WOULD HAVE A PRETTY ROUGH IDEA IMMEDIATELY.

BUT AS WE ALL KNOW THE DETAILS SOMETIMES TAKE MONTHS AND MONTHS TO COME OUT.

TYPICALLY, THERE WILL BE SOME COMPONENTS OF THE LAW THAT THEY'LL SAY THAT TEA WILL DEVELOP RULES FOR, AND WE'LL GET THOSE WHEN WE GET THEM, AND THAT OFTEN IMPACTS US BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE ARE SPECIAL RULES WHENEVER THEY START MAKING ADJUSTMENT TO TAXES THAT ARE ONLY GOING TO IMPACT RECAPTURE DISTRICTS.

THAT'S WHAT WE DISCOVERED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN ACTUALLY, WE FOUND OUT AFTER YOU'D ALREADY ADOPTED THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET.

LIKE TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE CLOSE OF THE BUDGET, WE GOT A MAJOR CHANGE TO HOW WE WERE CALCULATING ONE OF THOSE HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS.

LONG STORY SHORT. YES, IF IT PASSES IN JUNE AND IT'S SIGNED SOMETIME IN JUNE, WE'LL HAVE A DECENT IDEA WHAT IT MEANS FOR US IN AUGUST, BUT IT WON'T BE FINALIZED BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.

>> THE GOOD THING OR BAD THING IS THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY TIED UP IN THE HOLD HARMLESS RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST THAT TRA MOST LIKELY.

SORRY, I'M JUST READING THE LAST SENTENCE OF THIS MOTION. WE COULD.

EVEN IF WE HAVE TO PASS IT FOR THE JULY 1 AND WE NEED THAT TIMELINE, WE'VE GOT THAT RAMP UP TIMELINE.

BUT COULD MEET THAT STILL DOESN'T GET LAURIE WHERE SHE IS, SAY WE COULD HAVE A MEETING IN JULY AND SAY AND ADJUST IT.

BUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY GET YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO BE BECAUSE YOU WANT THOSE NUMBERS AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE TEACHERS LEAVE.

I WOULD ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF DOING SOMETHING WHERE WE SET IT AT ZERO AND THEN ALLOW JEFF TO ADJUST IT BASED ON THE STATE REQUIREMENT AS REQUIRED BY LAW OR LEGISLATION.

>> THANK YOU, LAURA. NEXT IS CATHERINE AND THEN JAMES AND THEN JOHN.

>> WE CERTAINLY CHOSE A LOT OF TOPICS FOR JOHN AND I ON OUR FIRST NIGHT AS OFFICIAL BOARD MEMBERS.

I'M CURIOUS.

I REALIZE THAT THERE'S THIS WHOLE NOTION THAT TURNOVER IN TEXAS IS REALLY BAD.

I'M WONDERING, SINCE EANES IS IN THE SAME BUCKET THAT SO MANY OTHER TEXAS SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE IN WITH HIGH TURNOVER RATES AND THE COST TO TRAIN TEACHERS, DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON WHAT THE COST WHEN A TEACHER LEAVES US ON MAYBE A PER TEACHER BASIS AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE SPEND TO GET THEM TRAINED UP TO EANES STANDARDS AND ACTUALLY MAYBE EVEN HOW LONG IT TAKES TO TRAIN A TEACHER TO GET UP TO EANES STANDARDS BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING IT DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN OVERNIGHT OR THE FIRST DAY.

>> A DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER.

IT DEPENDS ON THE TEACHER COMING IN, I WOULD SAY, A YEAR OR TWO TO GET A NEW TEACHER TRAINED ON THE CURRICULUM, FEELING COMFORTABLE.

IT DEPENDS IF THEY ARE COMING FROM ALREADY HAVING TAUGHT, THEY'RE A BRAND NEW TEACHER.

PROBABLY TWO YEARS TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN FEELING REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

>> I GUESS IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO SAY THAT A TEACHER WHO'S COMING WITH NO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IS PERHAPS MORE COSTLY TO GET THEM TRAINED UP THAN IT DOES TO GET A TEACHER WHO'S COMING IN AND TRANSFERRING IN FROM ANOTHER DISTRICT.

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>> POSSIBLY. SOMEBODY HAS NO TEACHING EXPERIENCE.

>> YES. THE AUDIENCE DOESN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THIS SHEET, AND I HOPE WE'LL POST THIS PERHAPS ONLINE, BUT IT JUST SHOWS FOR US, FOR EXAMPLE, AS WE'RE COMPARING OURSELVES TO OUR NEIGHBORS, THAT A LAKE TRAVIS TEACHER WHO HAS ZERO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IS COMING IN AT $57,000.

I HAVE TO SAY, WE HAVE WARRIORS IN OUR SCHOOLS, LIKE GOOD WARRIORS WHO ARE WORKING WITH OUR CHILDREN EVERY DAY AND JUST WORKING SO HARD AND THEY'RE MAKING IN THE 50S.

BUT IF YOU COMPARE TO EANES, YOU HAVE TO BE A FIVE YEAR TEACHER TO MAKE $57,000.

IF YOU COMPARE LAKE TRAVIS IS TO THE WEST, LEANDERS TO THE NORTH, AND LEANDERS, THEY'RE CLOSING SCHOOLS TOO.

THEY START THEIR TEACHERS AT $56,995.

WELL, YOU HAVE TO BE A FOUR YEAR TEACHER AT EANES TO MAKE THAT AMOUNT.

WHERE I STRUGGLE IS, WE ARE COMPETITIVE MORE OR LESS AT THE BEGINNING STAGES, BUT IT COSTS US SO MUCH TO TRAIN MAYBE TWO YEARS TO TRAIN THEM UP.

THERE'S COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT VERSUS BRINGING IN A TEACHER WHO'S MORE EXPERIENCED, BUT IF YOU'RE IN LEANDER AND YOU HAD A YEAR OR TWO OF EXPERIENCE, YOU'RE NOT COMING TO EANES BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE YOU SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS TO GET UP TO THE POINT WHERE YOUR SALARY MATCHES WHAT YOU JUST LEFT.

YOU WOULDN'T LEAVE UNLESS THERE WAS SOMETHING REALLY PULLING YOU HERE THAT WASN'T PULLING YOU SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WHEN I LOOK AT EANES SAY VERSUS TRAVIS, KELLY USED THE WORD SNOWBALL AND I LOVE THAT.

I DON'T LOVE WHERE IN THE SITUATION.

I LOVE YOUR METAPHOR IS THAT WE'RE 8-9% BEHIND LEANDER IN LAKE TRAVIS FOR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE'RE EIGHT OR 9%.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 0% RAISES, THE SNOWBALL IT JUST GOT SO HEAVY, CAN WE EVEN MOVE IT? WHAT DAMAGE ARE WE DOING TO OURSELVES TO JUST SAY NO RAISE? THAT'S REALLY SERIOUS CONVERSATION.

ALSO, AS I LOOK AT OUR EXPENDITURES IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, WE SPEND $56 MILLION ON INSTRUCTIONS GLOBALLY.

I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU SAY 1% RAISE EQUALS ABOUT 550 TO $600,000 OR MORE.

BUT WE SPEND OTHER THINGS HERE ON CURRICULUM TO SUPPORT AND TEACH OUR STAFF ON CURRICULUM AND INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK THAT SAYS TO ME THAT THESE ARE TEACHERS WHO ARE TEACHING TEACHERS HOW TO TEACH.

WE SPEND $2.3 MILLION THERE FROM A SALARY PERSPECTIVE.

WE HAVE INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERSHIP, WE SPEND $1.6 MILLION.

I THINK THESE COSTS ARE REAL, AND I THINK WE'RE HAVING TO SPEND THOSE KINDS OF AMOUNTS BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING 8-9% LOWER THAN OUR NEAREST NEIGHBORS.

I'M NOT COMFORTABLE GIVING NO RAISES.

I'M NOT COMFORTABLE GIVING 2% RAISE.

I THINK I WHEN WE LOOK AT INFLATION LIKE CORE INFLATION YEAR OVER YEAR, A 3%.

IF WE'RE NOT TALKING A 3%, THEN WE'RE JUST BACK IN THE SAME HOLE WE'RE IN TODAY.

I'M CURIOUS, CHRIS, WHEN THE LEGISLATURE FINISHES SESSION ON JUNE 2, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FOR THE PROCESS THAT WE ADJUST THESE SALARIES OR WHATEVER.

WHAT DOES THAT PHYSICALLY LOOK LIKE FOR YOU BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENING AFTER WE MAKE A VOTE HERE AND WE'VE APPROVED THE BUDGET AND WHAT HAPPENS?

>> IT JUST PRACTICALLY HOW IS IT IMPLEMENTED? WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT EMPLOYMENT GROUPS THAT HAVE CONTRACTS THAT START AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR.

SOME OF US ARE ON 12 MONTHS CONTRACTS, AND THOSE START AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR ON JULY 1, TEACHER SALARIES START ON SEPTEMBER 1, AND THAT'S STATEWIDE.

I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY WHO STARTS TEACHERS ANY OTHER TIME, WHICH IS WHY IF YOU MAKE THE DECISION, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IN AUGUST, THEY WON'T HAVE A TIME WHEN THEY'RE PAID LESS BECAUSE UP UNTIL AUGUST, THEY'RE STILL BEING PAID FOR LAST YEAR.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON WHEN DO PEOPLE START? FOR MOST OF OUR STAFF, BECAUSE MOST OF OUR STAFF ARE TEACHERS, THEIR RAISE WILL TAKE PLACE WITH THEIR SEPTEMBER PAYCHECK, WHICH WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 24 OR THE LAST WORK DAY BEFORE SEPTEMBER 24.

>> WE ALSO HAVE AN AUGUST 1 START FOR A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS,

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THOSE ARE LIKE MOST OF YOUR COACHES.

THEY WOULD START IN AUGUST AND GET PAID IN AUGUST.

WE DO AND A LOT OF OUR SUPPORT OR INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF AT THE CAMPUSES WOULD ALSO GET PAID STARTING AUGUST.

>> OKAY. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

IF WE HAVE ANY INDICATION OF WHAT TEACHER TURNOVER LOOKS LIKE FOR THE COMING SCHOOL YEAR, IF WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE HAVE TEACHERS WHO HAVE RAISED THEIR HAND AND SAID, I'M LEAVING THE PROFESSION AND I'M LETTING YOU KNOW NOW, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GIVING US A NEW CONTRACT, WHAT DOES THAT DATA SAY RIGHT NOW?

>> THEY HAVE UNTIL THE WEEK BEFORE JULY 4.

IT'S USUALLY AROUND THE JUNE 30 THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET OUT OF THEIR CONTRACT.

WE STILL KNOW OF A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO RESIGN.

I WOULD SAY WE HAVE ABOUT A TOTAL FOR OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND THAT'S NOT JUST TEACHERS, BUT OTHERS INCLUDED IN THERE.

AT 115 RESIGNATIONS AT THIS TIME.

WHICH IS LOWER.

WE'RE USUALLY AROUND 140, BUT I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY BE AVERAGE. I THINK WE'LL GET THERE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CATHERINE.

THANK YOU, CATHERINE, AND THEN I HAD JAMES AND THEN JOHN.

>> THANK YOU. I BELIEVE I MAY BE A LITTLE OFF HERE, BUT I BELIEVE HB3 IN 2019, SPECIFICALLY IN DOLING OUT FUNDING TO DISTRICTS, I BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE GIVING MORE FUNDING TO HIGH GROWTH, LOW INCOME, HIGH GROWTH, AND LOW INCOME OR HIGH GROWTH OR LOW INCOME.

THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF THE DISTRICTS ON THIS LIST GOT A LOT MORE MONEY THAN WE DID, AND THEY WERE REQUIRED TO PUT A FAIR AMOUNT OF THAT MONEY INTO SALARIES.

WHEN YOUR BUDGET IS 85 PERCENT, LIKE MOST DISTRICTS, 85 PERCENT PEOPLE, WHEN YOU GET AN EXTRA MILLION DOLLAR, YOU PUT 850,000 OF IT INTO PEOPLE, MAYBE MORE.

WE SAW THAT IN 2019, WE SAW THAT AGAIN, I BELIEVE IN ESR FUNDS.

THAT ESR FUNDS WERE UNEQUALLY DISTRIBUTED TO DISTRICTS.

WHAT UPSETS ME ABOUT THAT IS, WE ARE NOT HIGH GROWTH AND WE ARE NOT LOW INCOME, BUT WE ARE COMPETING EQUALLY AGAINST THESE OTHER DISTRICTS TO HIGHER TALENT, EFFECTIVELY, THEY ARE SAYING, ZSD, WE WANT YOU TO PAY YOUR PEOPLE LESS BY DISTRIBUTING MONEY LIKE THAT.

I GET WHERE IT LOOKS GOOD WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING FOR A RE ELECTION AS A LEGISLATOR TO SAY THAT YOU GAVE MONEY TO LOW INCOME DISTRICTS. I GET THAT.

BUT WHAT IT EFFECTIVELY DOES IS IT FORCES US TO COMPETE FOR PEOPLE AGAINST DISTRICTS THAT CAN AFFORD TO PAY A LOT MORE, AND THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF THESE DISTRICTS DID.

THAT'S THE HISTORY OF HOW WE FELL FROM FIFTH TO 12TH.

THESE OTHER DISTRICTS GOT A LOT MORE MONEY THAN WE DID AND BEAT US OVER THE HEAD WITH IT.

IT WOULD TAKE IF YOU TALK ABOUT NOT WANTING TO DIP INTO THE FUND BALANCE, I GET IT.

BUT IF YOU TALK ABOUT RAISING COMPENSATION BY FIVE OR SIX OR SEVEN OR EIGHT PERCENT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEEDING TO CUT ANOTHER THREE MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF OUR BUDGET, AND THAT'S PRETTY DEEP.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT YOU'RE GETTING REALLY DEEP INTO THE BUDGET AT THAT POINT.

BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY MULTI MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER BUDGET RIGHT NOW OR DEFICIT BUDGET.

SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE ON A FIXED INCOME.

OUR MONEY, IN THE 1980S OR 90S, THEY DECIDED THAT THE STATE WOULD TAKE ALL THE TAX MONEY AND REDISTRIBUTE IT TO DISTRICTS.

WE'RE EFFECTIVELY ON A FIXED INCOME.

NOW, WE DO HAVE GOLDEN PENNIES AND WE DO HAVE SOME RENTAL INCOME AND STUFF THAT MIGHT SET US A LITTLE BIT APART FROM JUST THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, BUT WE'RE ON A FIXED INCOME AND THAT INCOME COMES FROM THE STATE.

THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR HAVE CONSISTENTLY DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO FUND OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT LESS THAN THEY DID OTHER DISTRICTS, AND THAT'S WHAT HELPED PUT US IN THIS HOLE.

RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE DECIDE AND WE HAVE DECIDED FOR YEARS TO USE OUR FUND BALANCE TO PROVIDE RAISES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO DO AS A DISTRICT.

I GET IT. BUT WHAT WE ARE EFFECTIVELY DOING IS BAILING OUT THE STATE.

WE ARE EFFECTIVELY SAYING, MR. GOVERNOR AND LEGISLATURE, WE TAKE WE GOT YOU.

WE'LL COVER THIS OUT OF OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

REASONABLY, JOHN, YOU SAID IT, IS THAT REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO? IF THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR WANT US TO GIVE A TWO PERCENT RAISE, THEY WILL INCREASE OUR FUNDING BY TWO PERCENT AND TELL US TO GIVE IT TO PEOPLE.

BUT THIS IS A GOVERNOR PROBLEM, AND THIS IS A LEGISLATURE PROBLEM OF NOT WANTING TO FUND PUBLIC EDUCATION IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AT THE LEVEL IT NEEDS TO BE.

WE HAVE A CHOICE HERE TONIGHT, AND I GET IT.

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I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THAT.

BUT THE STATE HAS NOT GIVEN US ANY MONEY TO INCREASE SALARIES.

THEY HAVE GIVEN US ZERO MONEY FOR COMPENSATION.

I'M SORRY THAT IT WOULD MEAN PASSING A ZERO COMPENSATION INCREASE, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE STATE WANTS US TO DO, AND WHEN THEY WANT US TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, THEY WILL GIVE US MORE MONEY.

THAT'S WHERE I AM AND IT'S AN UGLY TRUTH, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

WE CAN EITHER BAIL OUT THE STATE BY DIPPING INTO OUR FUND BALANCE, AND CLOSING SCHOOLS, AND TAKING AWAY PLCS AND ALL THE OTHER ACTIONS WE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE OUR BUDGET LOOK BETTER, HOPEFULLY GET THE BALANCED.

WE CAN TAKE ALL THOSE TOUGH CUTS, OR WE CAN TURN TO THE STATE AND SAY FUND PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

>> JAMES, THANK YOU. JAMES, SO ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE RECOMMENDING OR YOUR POSITION IS A ZERO BUDGET?

>> I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE GIVE OUR TEACHERS EXACTLY WHAT THE STATE HAS GIVEN US TO GIVE THEM. ZERO.

>> RIGHT NOW IT'S ZERO.

>> YEAH, AND WHEN THEY GIVE US MONEY, WE WILL GIVE IT TO OUR TEACHERS. ABSOLUTELY.

>> THAT IS WHEN THE GOVERNOR SIGNS A BILL?

>> YEAH.

>> JOHN.

>> I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.

IT'S A TOUGH SPOT.

I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE LONG TERM HEALTH OF THE DISTRICT, AND IF WE KEEP DIGGING INTO OUR FUND BALANCE, THE STATE HAS SHOWN THAT THEY'RE NOT STEPPING UP, AND WE'VE HAD A FUND BALANCE.

CHRIS, WHAT'S IT AT NOW PERCENTAGE WISE, AROUND 25 PERCENT?

>> IT'S A LITTLE OVER 25 PERCENT.

I DON'T HOLD ME TO THIS. I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT.

IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 27 PERCENT RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW, I PROJECT THAT WE WILL GO BELOW 25 PERCENT AT THE END OF THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

>> AT THE END OF THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AND 25 PERCENT INFORMAL GOAL THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP US UP?

>> IT'S AN INFORMAL GOAL, BUT IT'S SLIGHTLY STRONGER THAN A SUGGESTION FROM THE STATE.

WHEN WE GO BELOW 25 PERCENT, WE WILL BE ON OUR FIRST REPORT FROM THE STATE, WHICH MEASURES OUR FINANCIAL HEALTH.

>> OUR PROJECTED DEFICIT FOR NEXT YEAR, IF WE DO THE TWO PERCENT RAISE, WHAT IS THAT?

>> SEVEN POINT EIGHT MILLION.

>> SEVEN POINT EIGHT MILLION IF WE GIVE A TWO PERCENT RAISE.

>> UNDER CURRENT LAW, CORRECT.

>. UNDER CURRENT LAW. IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE RAISE THAT'S GOING TO PUT US AT AROUND 6.5?

>> AROUND THERE.

>> I THINK THAT MATH, IT SHOWS YOU RIGHT THERE.

I MEAN, THIS IS A TERRIBLE SITUATION.

I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 6.5 MILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT WITHOUT GIVING ANY RAISES, AND WE'RE GOING TO GROW THAT TO CLOSE TO EIGHT.

IT KILLS ME BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT OUR STAFF IS.

I COULD SUPPORT WHAT JAMES SAID OF ZERO, NOW, WE GIVE WHAT THE STATE GIVES US.

THEN I THINK THIS IS OUR MARCHING ORDERS NOW.

WE GOT A YEAR TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING.

HERE'S THE OTHER THING. WE'LL KNOW COME JUNE WHAT WE'RE GETTING FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

THERE'S NO SURPRISES.

WE KNOW NOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING FOR THE 26, 27 YEAR.

WE KNOW IT, SO THERE'S NO NEED TO WAIT.

WE'LL KNOW IT IN A MONTH OR A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WE NEED TO DO THE WORK OVER THE NEXT YEAR SO THAT NEXT YEAR, WE CAN GIVE RAISES WITHOUT DIGGING INTO THE FUND BALANCE.

WE GOT A YEAR TO FIGURE IT OUT.

I'M COMMITTED TO FIGURING IT OUT BECAUSE OUR STAFF NEED RAISES.

THEY DO, AND SO WE CAN DO IT.

IT'S GOING TO BE HARD.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND SOME WAY, BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT, I COULD GET BEHIND WHAT JAMES SAID OF THE ZERO PERCENT, WE GIVE WHAT THE STATE GIVES US WHEN THEY GIVE IT, AND THEN WE WORK HARD FOR THE NEXT YEAR TO GIVE THE BEST RAISE WE CAN WITHOUT DIGGING INTO THE FUND BALANCE.

>> THANK YOU, JOHN. ANYONE ELSE? DIANE.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT THAT.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, DO YOU WANT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION OR DO YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THIS ONE AND SEE WHERE IT GOES AND THEN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION? WHAT WOULD?

>> WELL, LET ME.

YES. KELLY MADE THE MOTION.

WELL, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION?

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>> MAY I CLARIFY SOMETHING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

YOU'RE AUTHORIZING THE SUPERINTENDENT TO ADMINISTER WHATEVER NEW FUNDING TOWARDS AN INCREASE THAT MIGHT BE APPROVED IN WHATEVER THE LEGISLATION IS.

BUT BASED UPON THE CURRENT LEGISLATION, IF IT PASSES AS IT IS PROPOSED, THAT WOULD MEAN THEN THAT SOME CATEGORIES OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING SIGNIFICANT INCREASES WHILE OTHER CATEGORIES ARE GETTING ZERO.

IS THAT CORRECT, CHRIS, BASED ON YOUR UNDERSTANDING?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I'M GOING TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT BEFORE ANY SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS MADE.

JUST LIKE EVERYONE, I'M GRAPPLING WITH THIS.

BECAUSE WHAT I HEAR AND WHAT I'VE HEARD FOR FIVE YEARS ON THE BOARD IS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR STAFF.

WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR TEACHERS.

PEOPLE COME BECAUSE OF OUR BELOVED TEACHERS.

I HEAR WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING ABOUT THE DEFICIT.

I HEAR WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING ABOUT HOW WE ARE BALANCING BOTH A BUDGET VERSUS TAKING CARE OF OUR TEACHERS.

I DON'T, JAMES, AND THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK THAT THE LEGISLATURE OR THE STATE MAY TAKE CARE OF IT AND BY SENDING A MESSAGE TO THEM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SIT UP AND LISTEN.

I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK WE ARE FIGHTING A WAY OF THINKING THAT IS SCHOOL CHOICE AND FRANKLY, THEY DON'T CARE WHAT WE DO.

THEN WE ARE LEFT WITH IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TREAT OUR TEACHERS, WE GO EVEN FURTHER IN THE WHOLE OF NOT HAVING THE TOOLS TO STAY THE NUMBER ONE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT WE ARE.

IF WE START LOSING TEACHERS.

IF OUR TEACHERS THAT ARE PROBABLY STILL AT 11:30 OR 11 40 LISTENING TO THIS BOARD MEETING, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME TEACHERS DO BECAUSE THEY ARE WAITING FOR THEIR RAISE, BECAUSE THAT IS JUST ONE INDICATOR OF HOW WE VALUE OUR TEACHERS.

IT SHOULDN'T BE THE ONE INDICATOR, AND IT'S NOT THE ONE INDICATOR, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE TEACHERS THAT PUT A LOT OF VALUE ON THAT.

I I HAVE A REAL HARD TIME WITH THAT.

I HEAR WHAT WE'RE SAYING, AND I HEAR THAT WE ARE IN A BUDGET DEFICIT OR CONCERN WHERE WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.

BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO BALANCE THE FACT THAT OUR STAFF, CATHERINE, YOU CALL THEM WARRIORS, OUR STAFF DESERVES TO BE IN SOME WAY REWARDED.

I COULD GET ON BOARD BY SAYING, WE WOULD WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DOES.

WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF A FLOOR IF THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T DO SOMETHING.

IF THEY GIVE US ZERO, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS ON AN AGENDA ITEM TO REVISIT, EVEN IF WE REVISIT IN AUGUST THAT WE'RE STILL WHERE WE WERE TODAY ON MAY 20.

BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH GIVING ZERO BUDGET.

I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS FIRST ON THE BOARD AND WE GAVE FIVE PERCENT AND FIVE PERCENT, AND WE HAD THE MONEY TO DO THAT.

I THINK IT GAVE SOME REJUVENATION IN THE HARD TIMES THAT THE TEACHERS WERE GOING THROUGH COMING OUT OF COVID.

I THINK IT DOES MATTER.

I THINK WE SIGNAL TO OUR TEACHERS WHEN WE WILL NOT GIVE A BONUS OR EXCUSE ME, WHEN WE WILL NOT GIVE A PAY RAISE, I THINK WE WILL HAVE SOME LONG TERM EFFECTS.

I'M LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM, AND I HEAR THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR GIVING A RAISE AND IT'S THE WILL OF THE BOARD.

FOR JOHN AND CATHERINE, WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE WILL OF THE BOARD, AND THEN EVEN IF WE PERSONALLY DISAGREE WITH THE WILL OF THE BOARD, WE GO FORWARD WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S A MAJORITY THAT RULES.

BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SENDING A SIGNAL TO OUR STAFF THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM A RAISE BECAUSE OF THINGS OUT OF

[04:15:02]

I SPOKE AT A TURN AND I WAS GOING TO SPEAK LAST.

BUT DIANE, I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND.

>> NO. WHAT YOU WERE SAYING TRIGGERED ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD.

WE HAVE THE SENATE IN THE HOUSE, BOTH SAYING THEY WANT TO GIVE TEACHER RAISES, IT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT, HOWEVER.

I FEEL FAIRLY CONFIDENT, KNOCK ON WOOD, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE TEACHER PAY RAISES COMING OUT OF THIS, BUT IT'S WHAT TYPE OF TEACHER PAY RAISES DO YOU WANT, AND SO WE HEARD THE COMMITTEE SUB TONIGHT, AND IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE 0-3.

I'M HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

LAURIE, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, CATHERINE ABOUT WANTING TO BE COMPETITIVE IN THAT SPACE.

>> I GUESS TO YOUR POINT THAT WE CAN'T TRUST THE LEGISLATURE TO DO SOMETHING.

I DO FEEL LIKE THERE IS AN ACROSS THE BOARD SENTIMENT.

ACROSS THE AISLES, BOTH HOUSES, THEY WANT TO HELP TEACHERS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY LOOK VERY DIFFERENT.

WE HEARD THAT THE HOUSE BILL HAD IT BEEN IN THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A 2% RAISE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING IN THOSE TWO SCENARIOS OR IN BETWEEN.

I FEEL LIKE IF WE DO THIS 0% NOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO END UP AT ZERO ACROSS THE BOARD.

I JUST DON'T THINK SO.

JUST TO SUM THIS UP.

I'M STILL JUST A LITTLE BIT STUCK ON THIS 0-3 YEAR THING.

IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE BOARD, I COULD SUPPORT PUTTING SOME MONEY IN THERE AS A FLOOR.

YOU MENTIONED A FLOOR.

BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY I DO WANT TO SIT BACK AND WAIT.

I JUST HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME WITH THIS FUND BALANCE IN THE LONG TERM VISION.

I JUST FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I FULLY EXPLAIN MYSELF VERY WELL.

>> I GUESS I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE.

>> I TALKED MYSELF IN CIRCLES THERE.

>> WE ALL ARE. THAT'S FINE.

>> WE ALL HATE THIS DISCUSSION VERY MUCH, AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE OUR TEACHERS, THEY ARE THE WARRIORS, AS CATHERINE SAID.

BUT I THINK UNFORTUNATELY, RIGHT NOW, I'M SITTING AT 0% AT THE MOMENT.

BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE THERE IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING COMING FORWARD THAT'LL BE PUNCHED ON.

>> YOU'RE OPTIMISTIC.

>> YEAH

>> THANK YOU. JAMES. THEN JOHN.

>> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. DR. ARNETT BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT.

CHANCES ARE THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO NAME SPECIFICALLY TEACHERS, I'VE DONE IT BEFORE, WHERE THEY'VE SAID TEACHERS, NURSES, LIBRARIANS.

THEY ALWAYS LIKE TO LIMIT IT TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE.

THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WE APPRECIATE OUR BUS DRIVERS AND OUR CUSTODIANS AND EVERYBODY AS MUCH AS WE APPRECIATE OUR TEACHERS AND OUR CFOS AND OUR HEAD OF HUMAN RESOURCES, ET CETERA.

NO, I WOULD MAYBE NOT PHRASE IT AS WE AUTHORIZE THE SUPERINTENDENT TO GIVE WHATEVER THE LEGISLATURE.

I THINK THIS IS A MATTER OF COMING BACK AND LOOKING AT COMPENSATION AFTER THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION HAS ENDED, HOPING THAT THEY HAVE DONE SOMETHING.

KIM, IF THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I DON'T I DON'T WANT IT TO END UP ZERO.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT TODAY IT'S ZERO BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING.

WE NEED TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THAT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE MOTION ULTIMATELY IS GOING TO BE POSTPONE THIS VOTE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING I DO AGREE WITH DR. ARNETT.

THIS IS ABOUT MORE THAN, NOT SMALL, BUT THE NAMED CATEGORIES THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS PROBABLY GOING TO DO.

>> THEN, JAMES, TO CLARIFY, YOU ARE SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE AT EITHER ZERO OR TABLING THE MOTION.

THEN I HAVE JOHN, AND THEN I HAVE CATHERINE.

>> AS I THINK THIS THROUGH MORE, OBVIOUSLY, WE ALL SHARE A CONCERN ABOUT THE FUND BALANCE, AND WE ALL WISH WE COULD GIVE OUR TEACHERS AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

WE ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATE'S GOING TO DO.

AS MUCH AS I WISH WE COULD TABLE IT TWO WEEKS, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH.

I THINK MAYBE A GOOD COMPROMISE WE COULD ALL GET BEHIND IS THAT ONE THAT JAMES JUST MENTIONED,

[04:20:02]

THERE'S NO NUMBER, THERE'S NO COMMENTING ON IT.

WE JUST SAY WE'RE TABLING IT TILL THE AUGUST 4TH OR WHATEVER THAT FIRST BOARD MEETING IS, WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THE STATE DOES.

WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION THEN.

AS CHRIS JUST WALKED THROUGH, MOST PEOPLE AREN'T GETTING PAID UNTIL THEIR SEPTEMBER PAYCHECK.

FOR THOSE WHO START IN AUGUST, I ASSUME THEY GET AN END OF AUGUST PAYCHECK THE 24TH.

IF WE MADE A DECISION AT THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST, CHRIS, IS THAT ENOUGH TIME TO GET IT IN THE END OF AUGUST PAY ROLL FOR THOSE WHO START AUGUST 1 OR NO?

>> THAT WOULD BE PRETTY TOUGH.

BUT IN THE PAST, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS MAKE UP FOR IT IN THE NEXT PAYCHECK.

IF WE CAN'T GET IT DONE BY AUGUST 24TH, WE WOULD PAY THEM WHAT THEY MISSED IN AUGUST IN THEIR SEPTEMBER PACK.

>> THERE'S A CHANCE WE CAN GET IT DONE, AND IF NOT, WE'LL DO IT IN BACK PAY?

>> CORRECT.

>> THE VERY NEXT MONTH. MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE AS WE BUY OURSELVES SOME TIME, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IDEAL AND WE TABLE IT TILL AUGUST.

>> THANK YOU, JOHN. I'M GOING TO GO TO CATHERINE.

WHEN WE FINISH THIS DISCUSSION, I DON'T THINK WE GET TO TABLE THIS.

I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROCEDURAL MECHANISMS THAT ARE NOT TABLING, BUT LET'S GO TO CATHERINE.

KELLY, DID YOU HAVE ANY? THEN WE CAN WRAP UP THE DISCUSSION.

>> I THINK I HEARD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SAY THAT WE ARE SPENDING OUR FUND BALANCE.

I WANT TO SAY THAT THAT IS ALSO NOT A DONE DEAL.

WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED WHAT TO DO WITH A NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE THAT WE CONTINUE TO DRAW YEAR-AFTER-YEAR.

I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THE TWO HARD THINGS AT ONCE, WHICH IS TO ACTUALLY GIVE OUR TEACHERS A COMMITMENT FROM US THAT THERE IS A RACE COMING AND NOT A 0% TABLING THAT WE GIVE THEM, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE 3%.

BUT THEN ON THE BACK END THAT WE CONTINUE TO RESOLVE THE FUND BALANCE ISSUE AND LOOK FOR CUTS IN OTHER PLACES.

I THINK THIS IS THE TIME THAT EANES HASN'T DONE THIS IN A WHILE IN A LONG TIME.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MORE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE HAD, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE DOING ONE THING AT THE EXPENSE OF THE OTHER.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE WE COULD FIND DECENT REASONABLE PAY INCREASE THAT MATCHES CORE INFLATION.

>> THANK YOU, CATHERINE. I THINK AT THIS POINT, WHAT I SEE IS THAT THERE IS A WISH TO GIVE A RAISE, BUT THERE IS NOT THE VOTES TO MOVE FORWARD ON ANY TYPE OF RAISE AT THIS TIME.

AUDREY I NEED YOUR HELP.

WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. WHAT DO WE DO NOW?

>> SURE. YOU HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS.

YOU COULD ALWAYS TAKE A VOTE IF IT DOESN'T PASS, THEN YOU COULD LET IT SIT, OR KELLY SAID SHE MADE THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT'S STILL OPEN.

SHE CAN MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO POSTPONE, AND I'M HEARING FROM THE BOARD THAT THE TIMELINE BEING THROWN OUT IS AUGUST.

POSTPONE VOTING ON THIS AGENDA ITEM UNTIL THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING IN AUGUST.

THEN SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO SECOND AND YOU'D HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT MOTION.

>> LET ME ASK. IF WE COULD, BEFORE, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SALARY INCREASE.

BUT THERE WAS A SECOND PART TO THIS MOTION, WHICH WAS INSURANCE PAYMENTS.

LAURIE AND CHRIS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS TIME? IF WE DON'T TAKE ANY ACTION ON THE INSURANCE CONTRIBUTION, WHAT HAPPENS TO IT? DOES IT MAINTAIN WITH WHAT WE HAVE?

>> WE BELIEVE THAT IF YOU DON'T CHANGE IT, IT REMAINS UNCHANGED.

THE 473 A MONTH WILL REMAIN 473 A MONTH.

JUST TO CLARIFY, WHEN I PREPARE THE BUDGET WITH MY TEAM,

[04:25:02]

>> THEN A CLARIFYING QUESTION, CHRIS, IF THE LEGISLATURE WERE TO GIVE X AMOUNT OF AN INCREASE, AND YOU COULD CALCULATE THAT AND IT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW AND YOU CAME UP WITH A FIGURE, IF A MOTION WERE MADE TO FOLLOW THE LEGISLATURE'S DIRECTIVE, COULD YOU DO THAT SOONER THAN AUGUST?

>> I BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL PROBABLY BE DECISIONS THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE LEGISLATION LOOKS LIKE.

IF IT COMES OUT THE WAY CSHB-2 IS OR IT'S VERY SPECIFIC ON WHERE THE MONEY GOES, I THINK WE COULD DO THAT.

IF IT LOOKS MORE LIKE HB-2, WHERE IT SAYS, X PERCENT OF THE INCREASE HAS TO GO TO RAISES AND X PERCENT OF THAT INCREASE HAS TO GO TO TEACHERS, THEN YOU WILL NEED TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS.

I WOULD SAY MAYBE.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION.

JOHN.

>> DOES IT MATTER WHICH BOARD MEETING WE DO IT IN AUGUST? WOULD IT BE BETTER TO DO IT AT THE FIRST ONE VERSUS THE SECOND?

>> IF WE HAVE ANY HOPE OF MAKING THE AUGUST PAYROLL, IT WOULD NEED TO BE THE FIRST ONE.

>> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, WE WOULD BE POSTPONING TILL THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST, NOT THE SECOND.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE SEE A MOTION THAT WITHOUT THE WILL OF THE BOARD IN GOING FORWARD WITH ANY SALARY INCREASE, THAT, AUDREY REMIND ME AGAIN, WE EITHER WITHDRAW THE MOTION.

>> SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

>> WE SUBSTITUTE THE MOTION SHOULD THE LEGISLATURE PASS SOMETHING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS IN JUNE AND WE CAN REVISIT THIS ISSUE SHOULD WE HAVE FURTHER CLARITY.

>> YES. BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THE BUDGET THAT YOU END UP PASSING ON JUNE 24 WOULD NOT REFLECT ANY CHANGES THAT YOU MADE IN JUNE?

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> KELLY.

>> I JUST HAD A QUESTION. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THE MOTION THAT I MADE AND THEN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION AFTER THAT OR NO?

>> YES, WE CAN, ACCORDING TO AUDREY. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, THE BOARD WOULD VOTE ON THE EXISTING MOTION AS IT IS, AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE CAN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION AFTER THAT VOTE.

>> DO I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION?

>> I KNOW THE WORDING. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES ADOPT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS VOTE TO THE FIRST FULL BOARD MEETING IN AUGUST.

>> I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? A MOTION FROM JAMES, SECOND FROM LAURA.

ANY DISCUSSION? GOOD. GO AHEAD, KELLY.

>> JUST THIS PROCEDURE.

THIS IS WHERE MY QUESTIONING IS.

WE VOTE, YES, WE WANT TO SUBSTITUTE, AND THEN WE VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTION.

THERE'S TWO VOTES FROM HERE TO GET TO THE END.

>> GOOD JOB. YES.

>> IT'S HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT.

>> I THINK KELLY'S SUGGESTION WAS A BETTER ONE.

WE'RE VOTING THAT WE WANT TO SUBSTITUTE, AND THEN WE ARE VOTING ON THE SUBSTITUTE, AND THEN WE ARE VOTING ON THE ORIGINAL? NO.

[04:30:01]

>> IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO SUBSTITUTE THE MOTION, THEN THE ORIGINAL ONE GOES AWAY, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE MERITS OF POSTPONING. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> YES. WE HAVE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, AND WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? WE HAVE SIX IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.

NOW WE HAVE A VOTE ON THE MERITS OF THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES 5-2.

OUR NEXT ACTION ITEM IS, THANK YOU, CHRIS, AND THANK YOU, LAURIE, A REQUEST TO A PUBLIC MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADOPTING

[10.3 Request to Call a Public Meeting for the Purpose of Adopting the 2025-...]

>> I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES DIRECT THE BOARD PRESIDENT TO CALL A MEETING FOR 6:00 PM TO 7:00 PM OPEN SESSION ON JUNE 24, 2025, FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING AND ADOPTING THE 2025-2026 BUDGET AND DISCUSSION OF THE 2025 PROPOSED TAX RATE AND AUTHORIZE THE ADMINISTRATION TO PUBLISH A TAX RATE OF $0.8855 FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A MOTION FROM JAMES, A SECOND FROM KELLY.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES 7-0.

>> NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS A SECOND READING OF BOARD POLICY.

[10.4 Second Reading of Board Policy GKD (Local)--Community Relations: Nonsc...]

THANK YOU. EKD LOCAL.

>> YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

>> I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

>> I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES ADOPT THE PROPOSED POLICY AS EDITED.

>> I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? LAURA. I HAVE A MOTION FROM JAMES A SECOND FROM LAURA. ANY DISCUSSION?

>> I'LL JUST SAY WE REVIEWED THIS POLICY IN THE LAST MEETING AND THIS IS THE FORMALITY OF COMING BACK AND VOTING ON IT.

AND TRUSTEES WERE GIVEN A CHANCE TO PROVIDE INPUT, AND THOSE EDITS HAVE BEEN PUT INTO THE POLICY.

BUT A TRUSTEE IS CERTAINLY WELCOME TO COMMENT ON THAT.

>> ANY DISCUSSION, DIANE?

>> THANK YOU. I WAS NOT PRESENT AT THAT MEETING.

I THINK THAT WE ARE, HISTORICALLY, THIS POLICY WAS IN PLACE WHEN WE WERE DOING CERTAIN TYPES OF LEASING OF OUR FACILITIES THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE SIMPLISTIC.

WE ARE NOW ENTERING INTO THIS REALM WHERE WE HAVE A WHOLE SCHOOL THAT WE ARE LEASING OUT IN THE POTENTIAL TO LEASE IT OUT FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME.

THERE ARE A LOT OF NUANCES IN THIS.

I JUST WANTED TO VOICE THAT, I DEFINITELY TRUST OUR ADMINISTRATION, AND I HAVE SEEN SOME WARNING AROUND WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN WITH SOME POTENTIAL LEASES.

I JUST FEEL LIKE A STRONGER POLICY TO HAVE WOULD BE THAT IF WE HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF FINANCIAL COMMITMENT TO THE LEASES, OR IF WE EXCEED A YEAR THAT THERE WOULD BE A BOARD DISCUSSION ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST OUR ADMINISTRATION.

IT'S JUST THAT I'M LOOKING AT THE POLICY AND THINKING ABOUT THE COMPLEXITIES OF WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IN TERMS OF REVENUE GENERATION AND OUR OPERATING EXPENSES AND WE'RE WRESTLING WITH SO MUCH RIGHT NOW THAT I JUST APPRECIATE IT WHERE THERE'S LARGER AMOUNTS OF MONEY INVOLVED,

[04:35:04]

I THINK THAT SUMS UP MY THOUGHTS HERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, DIANE. A FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> SORRY, DIANE, DID YOU HAVE A SUBSTITUTE WORDING OR A CHANGE OF THE WORDING? I DIDN'T I MISSED IT.

>> YES, THE WORDING WHERE IT SAYS SCHOOL FACILITIES MAY BE MADE AVAILABLE TO CHARTERED NONPROFIT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED ONE YEAR AND THEN THE WORDING THAT HAS BEEN SUBSTITUTED IN CURRENTLY IS UNLESS OTHERWISE AGREED TO BY THE SUPERINTENDENT OR DESIGNEE.

I WOULD SUBSTITUTE IN UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

I WOULD ALSO BE OPEN TO PUTTING A FLOOR ON I THINK WE HAVE SOME CAPS OR DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT ARE IN PLACE FOR OTHER POLICIES WHERE WE ACCEPT DONATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE.

I PUT THIS OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY OTHER SUPPORT BY ANY OTHER TRUSTEE.

I WELCOME DISCUSSION.

IF NOBODY HERE IS INTERESTED IN CONSIDERING THAT, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO EVEN THINK ABOUT $1 AMOUNT.

I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT OTHER TRUSTEES HAVE TO SAY.

I WASN'T PRESENT AT THE LAST MEETING. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

>> TRYING TO THINK THROUGH THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT.

I WONDER, WOULD THAT LEAD TO ALMOST NEGOTIATING LEASES IN OPEN SESSION.

BECAUSE OTHERWISE, TYPICALLY, THOSE THINGS ARE DONE OFFLINE.

BUT IF IT REQUIRES THE INPUT AND THE APPROVAL OF THE BOARD, THEN DOES THAT CONSTITUTE THE NEGOTIATION OF A LEASE IN A PUBLIC MEETING?

>> THANK YOU, DOCTOR ARNETT. LAURA, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> NO, I HAVE A COMMENT. I THINK BASED ON THE TIME THAT WE DO HAVE A POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE AND THAT YOU COULD REQUEST THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE TO TAKE THIS UP AND BRING FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION.

>> JAMES.

>> I GUESS I'M WONDERING WHAT PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO FIX.

WE HAVE A THING THAT SAYS, WE HAVE TO APPROVE DONATIONS.

IN FACT, THAT'S THE NEXT MOTION.

IS A DONATION OVER $25,000.

I'VE SOMETIMES WONDERED IF THAT'S TOO LOW A THRESHOLD.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO THAT.

I THINK THAT'S A NUMBER THAT SOMEONE A FEW YEARS AGO SET AND JUST GIVEN THE SIZE OF THESE THINGS.

MAYBE WE NEED TO INCREASE THAT.

BUT NONETHELESS, THAT'S A SEPARATE DISCUSSION.

BUT NOW, TO BRING ALL OF THESE THINGS BEFORE THE BOARD FEELS LIKE WE WOULD JUST BE SLOWING DOWN THE PROCESS.

BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE WOULD SIT THERE AND GO, WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IN $250,000 IN REVENUE BY RENTING THAT FACILITY, WE'D RATHER NOT DO THAT.

IT MAY GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF OVERSIGHT INTO WHO WE'RE RENTING IT TO AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THE MINUTIA THAT I DON'T THINK THE BOARD SHOULD BE INTO.

I THINK THAT WE SET HIGH LEVEL GUIDANCE TO THE ADMINISTRATION THROUGH OUR POLICY, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE IN THE DAY TO DAY DECISIONS ON RENTING FACILITIES LIKE THAT.

>> TO THE POINT OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE, I'M HAPPY TO BRING IT BACK TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS A CHANCE AFTER THE POLICY COMMITTEE CONSIDERED IT TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

I APOLOGIZE, IT IS SO INCREDIBLY LATE.

TO YOUR POINT ABOUT EVERY SINGLE TIME.

THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION.

IT'S FOR CERTAIN VERY SPECIFIC CASES.

I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER UNFORTUNATELY TO YOU ABOUT THIS DELIBERATION ON A LEASE IN PUBLIC.

THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING QUITE HONESTLY THAT I CONSIDERED.

I GUESS, JUST TO WRAP UP MY THOUGHT HERE IS THAT AS I SAID EARLIER, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE TENSION BETWEEN REVENUE GENERATION AND COMMUNITY USE FOR OUR FACILITIES.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO LEARN MORE ABOUT A POTENTIAL LEASE UPON US IS, WOULD IT BE EXCLUSIVE USE? WOULD THIS ENTITY ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY USAGE AT OTHER TIMES OF THE DAY? THESE TYPES OF NUANCES THAT REALLY I THINK ARE IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING A FACILITY, AND WE KNOW THAT IN THE PAST, AND I NEED TO BE I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS AT ANYBODY HERE,

[04:40:02]

I JUST WANT TO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE IS A WILL HERE, BUT JUST SAY THAT, GOING FORWARD, I JUST VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS KEEPING THAT IN THE FOREFRONT OF THEIR MIND AS THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT THESE TYPES OF CONTRACTS AND LEASES THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS A LOT OF ANGST RIGHT NOW ABOUT USE OF OUR FACILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, I SEE SOME GOOD THINGS GOING FORWARD.

I JUST THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO PUT IT IN A POLICY, BUT DELIBERATING AND OPEN.

>> KIM CARE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

>> GO AHEAD, CHRIS.

>> I SUPERVISE FACILITIES, RENTALS AS PART OF MY JOB DUTIES AND MOST OF WHAT WE DO WE'RE NOT SIGNING LEASES.

PEOPLE ARE RENTING, OUR FACILITIES, NOT JUST VALLEY VIEW, BUT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES FOR SHORT TERM USE.

EVEN IF THEY'RE DOING IT ON A RECURRING BASIS, EVERY ONCE A WEEK, THEY'LL COME IN.

WE'RE NOT SIGNING LEASES.

I THINK WHAT DIANE IS REFERRING TO IS A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GIVING SOMEBODY EXCLUSIVE ACCESS TO ONE OF OUR FACILITIES, PRECLUDING ANYONE ELSE USING IT.

I THINK I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE IN THE PIPELINE, BUT I COULD FORESEE A SITUATION WHERE THAT MIGHT COME UP AND I THINK THAT MAYBE THE BOARD CONSULTING ON THOSE IS NOT A BAD IDEA.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HINDER OUR ABILITY TO DO OUR DAY TO DAY WORK BECAUSE THAT SITUATION IS PRETTY RARE.

>> CHRIS, MAY I ASK, DOES THIS POLICY HAVE SOME TIME SENSITIVITY TO IT BECAUSE OF A PENDING LEASE THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED?

>> WHEN THIS WORK WAS STARTED, WE ENTERED INTO DISCUSSIONS WITH A GROUP ABOUT HAVING EXCLUSIVE ACCESS TO VALLEY VIEW ELEMENTARY.

WHENEVER WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT THEM TO PAY TO HAVE EXCLUSIVE ACCESS, THEY BACKED AWAY FROM THAT, THAT WAS MORE THAN THEY WERE INTERESTED IN.

WE'VE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WHERE THEY'RE USING IT ON SPECIFIC DAYS AT SPECIFIC TIMES, STILL AVAILABLE FOR OTHER USES AT OTHER TIMES FROM OTHER PEOPLE.

THE ORIGINAL REASON WHY WE STARTED THIS HAS FALLEN THROUGH.

THERE MIGHT BE A SITUATION THAT COMES UP WHERE WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN WHERE SOMEBODY IS WILLING TO PAY US A LOT OF MONEY FOR EXCLUSIVE USE AND WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT.

IF THAT HAPPENS, I DON'T SEE THAT IT WOULD BE A PARTICULAR CONCERN TO BRING THAT TO THE BOARD FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE COMMIT TO IT.

>> THANK YOU, CHRIS. I'LL JUST GIVE MY THOUGHTS.

I THINK THAT FOR THE BOARD TO ASK OF ADMINISTRATION AND PUT PARAMETERS AROUND IT.

WE CAN'T REALLY ANTICIPATE WHAT'S GOING TO COME DOWN THE PIKE.

I THINK THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION.

IN RENTALS, WHEN WE'RE RENTING OUT THE PACK, WE DON'T ASK ADMINISTRATION TO COME AND BRING US AN OPPORTUNITY AND GIVE US THE DETAILS AROUND THAT OPPORTUNITY, WE TRUST OUR ADMINISTRATION TO HANDLE OUR RENTALS.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT DIANE TO YOUR POINT, IF THERE'S SOME DEMARCATION THAT YOU FEEL YOU WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO SEE, AND THERE ISN'T A PRESSING MANNER RIGHT NOW.

WE CAN WITHDRAW THIS MOTION [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS STILL A PRESSING MATTER.

>> I'M FINE PUTTING IT BACK TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE.

>> WELL, SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.

I GUESS I MAY DISAGREE WITH IT.

BUT, SOUNDS LIKE YOUR CONCERN CAN THEN BE TAKEN TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES. AND WE CAN MAYBE DISCUSS EXCLUSIVE WORD AND WORDING AND THANK YOU.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THOUGH WE STILL WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS MOTION.

WE HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? NO, OPPOSED.

THE MOTION PASSES 7,1.

OUR LAST ACTION ITEM, WELL,

[10.5 Request to Accept the Chap Club Donations]

DO I HAVE A MOTION? DIANE.

>> I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES ACCEPT THE DONATION OF $194,550 FROM THE WEST LAKE CHAP CLUB BOOSTER CLUB ORGANIZATION.

[04:45:07]

>> MOTION BEEN MADE, DID I HAVE A SECOND? JOHN. SECOND BY JOHN. ANY DISCUSSION?

>> I'M SORRY, I DO NEED TO MAKE JUST ONE SMALL POINT.

IT SAYS 194,000, BUT THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $41,000 LISTED HERE.

WE DID GET NOTATION BELOW THAT DOCUMENTS THAT ADDITIONAL 41.

I THINK WE NEED TO MODIFY THAT NUMBER.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT.

[OVERLAPPING].

>> THE ACTION WAS TO ACCEPT A DONATION OF 194,000, BUT IT TOTALS MORE THAN 194,000, IN FACT.

>> THE THREE ITEMS LISTED THERE.

THE STIPENDS, THE TEAM TRAVEL, AND THEN THE EQUIPMENT TOTAL WHAT WOULD THAT BE 233,000.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE THE ACTION ITEM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE WEIGHT ROOM.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS CHANGED BECAUSE THAT PORTION OF IT DIDN'T COME THROUGH OR NOT.

LET ME LET ME DIG THROUGH THE NOTES AND SEE IF I CAN SEE ANYTHING.

>> WHAT I SEE HERE IN THE BACKGROUND IS THE CHAP CLUB HAS OFFERED TO PROVIDE EQUIPMENT.

BUT THERE'S A VALUE ATTACHED TO THE EQUIPMENT.

THE 194,550 IS A CASH DONATION WITH 41,000 AND CHANGE IN DONATED EQUIPMENT.

>> I'VE GOT CLARIFICATION THAT THE EQUIPMENT THE MONEY FOR THE EQUIPMENT CAME IN LATER, AND IT JUST WAS NOT INCLUDED.

LET ME QUICKLY GET YOU A NEW TO TOTAL FOR THAT RECOMMENDED ACTION.

[BACKGROUND] TOTAL SHOULD BE $236,258.27.

>> DO YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION, DIANE?

>> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES ACCEPT THE DONATION OF $236,258.27 FROM THE WEST LAKE CHAP CLUB BOOSTER ORGANIZATION.

>> MOTION'S BEEN MADE SECOND BY JOHN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? KELLY?

>> THANK YOU. THIS IS AMAZING. THANK YOU.

>> LAURA.

>> GUYS, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE CHAP CLUB.

WE CANNOT DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT OUR PARENTS.

QUESTION FOR, I GUESS, CHRIS OR LAURIE, THE STIPENDS, I REQUEST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THESE STIPENDS?

>> THANK YOU.

THAT'S WHAT'S CONSIDERED THE CHAP CLUB STIPEND.

IT IS GIVEN BY OBVIOUSLY THE BOOSTER CLUB, AND IT'S GIVEN TO ALL MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL COACHES.

THE HIGH SCHOOL RECEIVES 1015, IF I'M CORRECT, AND THEN HALF OF THAT GOES TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

>> THESE COACHES ARE RECEIVING STIPENDS FROM.

>> YES. THEY'RE ALREADY RECEIVING THOSE STIPENDS.

WE RECEIVE THIS EVERY YEAR AND IT IS A PASS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL ADD MY THANKS TO WESTLAKE CHAP CLUB.

I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR SUPPORT.

WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? NO, OPPOSED.

THE MOTION PASSES 7,1.

WE HAVE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOTION BY LAURA.

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ACTION - CONSENT AGENDA

>> I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTED.

>> I HAVE A MOTION, DO I HAVE A SECOND? MOTION BY LAURA, SECOND BY JAMES. ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSAGE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THAT MOTION PASSES SEVEN TO ZERO.

WE HAVE UPCOMING MEETINGS FOR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IN JUNE 4TH.

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UPCOMING MEETINGS

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THANK YOU. AT THE DISTRICT OPERATION CENTER.

THEN OUR LAST MEETINGS BEFORE WE TAKE A JULY BREAK ARE JUNE 10TH AND JUNE 24TH, THOSE ARE BOTH REGULAR MEETINGS AS POSTED AT CEDAR CREEK ELEMENTARY.

WITH THAT AT 12:16 A.M. WE STAND ADJOURNED.

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